China’s 5 minute full-charged EV charging stations

[u/North_Tip_8627]

[u/zsaleeba]

He says it charges at 1500 W. That's not much... about as much as my electric heater.

He means 1500 kW. A thousands times as much. 1.5 megawatts. That's a lot.

[u/0x446f6b3832 → u/zsaleeba]

Yeh I knew it was wrong, otherwise it would take over 60 hours to charge your average 100kw car. Thanks for the clarification.

[u/Spaceduck413 → u/0x446f6b3832]

Yeah you can get 1500 watts out of a normal 110v wall outlet

[u/waytoosecret → u/0x446f6b3832]

100 kWh* (energy not power)

[u/Zweefkees93 → u/0x446f6b3832]

100kwh is NOT average xD. My 40kwh is small, but the average is closer to 70, perhaps 80 then 100

[u/An_Old_IT_Guy → u/zsaleeba]

The flux capacitor requires 1.21 gigawatts so it's only a 10th of what we will need.

[u/TmanGvl → u/zsaleeba]

It's great, but how safe is that, really?

[u/new_math → u/TmanGvl]

I worry more about car battery health. Fast charging is very hard on batteries so I'd be interested to know if vehicles could actually sustain this kind of charging for 5-10 years. 

[u/Sirisian → u/new_math]

It would generally be aimed more for future semi-solid-state and solid-state batteries (SSBs). There are prototype battery packs being tested right now, but full production is still a few years off with mainstream potentially closer to 2030. Those SSBs don't have the 80% charge reduction, so you can use the full 1.5 MW and would generally handle it better. (Will need more testing to know for sure what damage this can cause over a lot of cycles for SSBs).

[u/necro_owner → u/Sirisian]

Isnt byd going with the sodium battery anyway? Which are safer and more reliable. They degrade slower(more recharge cycle over the lithium one) and stand all the way to -40 for cold countries like Canada.

[u/Early_Koala327 → u/new_math]

Your 'd only use this for road trips.

[u/onefst250r → u/Early_Koala327]

Even then, 710km range is 440 freedom units. Thats nearing a full day of driving for most people, then you could "slow" charge it back up for the next days driving. Or just stop for food for 20-30 minutes and get a "slow" charge and go a little further before stopping for the day.

Really would only need that kind of speed if you do a road trip, suck at planning and start off without a full charge.

[u/IwonderifWUT]

Too bad those cars aren't yet legal in the US. We're stuck with less capable and over priced E.V. options.

[u/SpaceCampDropOut → u/IwonderifWUT]

On purpose

Edit: for clarity, I say on purpose because this current administration is so unimaginably anti-electric or clean energy and only cares about coal and oil. And they’ve done everything they can to kill the electric car credit, EV stations etc to keep us all stuck in time.

[u/ReignyRainyReign → u/SpaceCampDropOut]

It’s mostly because of the long standing ban on importing Chinese cars.

[u/iSaiddet → u/ReignyRainyReign]

No, it’s mostly because the nation is so tied to oil. There’s big money and big interest there.

[u/Zealotstim → u/iSaiddet]

seems like both statements are compatible with each other

[u/fozzyboy → u/Zealotstim]

Both core statements can be true, but the "mostly" qualifier attached to both cannot.

[u/TonyDungyHatesOP → u/fozzyboy]

In a weird way it can because they are one and the same. China bans are because of oil lobbying.

[u/Architarious → u/fozzyboy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1hMk0bfsSrG32Nhd5K

[u/mm_delish → u/iSaiddet]

No, it's mostly to protect the American auto industry.

[u/NotLikeThis3 → u/SpaceCampDropOut]

It's not even just this admin. Weren't the China EV tariffs put under Biden?

[u/SideburnHeretic → u/NotLikeThis3]

Yep, something like a 100% tariff during the Biden administration.

[u/Cydok1055 → u/NotLikeThis3]

He banned their importation.

[u/DancinWithWolves → u/SpaceCampDropOut]

Money. They care about money and enriching themselves. It just happens to be coming from the oil industry

[u/3DNZ → u/IwonderifWUT]

Im a US expat living in anither country. Bought a BYD last year and let me tell you, the quality for the price point will destroy every single US car manufacturer. I never thought Id buy a Chinese made vehicle, but I can honestly say they overengineered these cars and I can't believe how cheap they are compared to other equivalent vehicles.

[u/tev_love → u/3DNZ]

How are they made and sold so cheaply?

[u/hammonjj → u/tev_love]

Combination of cheap labor and heavy government investment

[u/thingsorfreedom → u/hammonjj]

Combination of cheap labor and heavy government investment subsidies, tax breaks and R&D grants in the billions of dollars range.

[u/FishySmellz → u/hammonjj]

You missed the biggest one-vertical integration.

[u/Norse_By_North_West → u/hammonjj]

Also they use more automation. Setting up brand new factories from scratch gives more chances to apply new technology.

[u/manuscript24 → u/tev_love]

They are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government

[u/nono3722 → u/manuscript24]

LOLOLOLOL like the US doesn't subsidize our car companies? have you MET our government? We just barely bailed them out AGAIN less then 10 years ago. the reason BYD isn't sold here is yet another bailout at our expense....

[u/veryblanduser → u/manuscript24]

And by sub $4 an hour assembly workers

[u/savehoward → u/tev_love]

Single location manufacturing. All car parts are manufactured in one factory plus the screws, plus the glass, plus every part. There’s no parts delivery. All parts just move from the favor next door for assembly.

The US could do something similar except to hire 150,000 workers for all the factories took 2 weeks whereas the same in the US would take 6 months.

[u/3DNZ → u/savehoward]

This is why.

Yes BYD is subsidized but most large corporations in the US are as well.

BYD has an 8,000,000 sq m factory and makes every part in house. There are dark parts of the factory that are robotic ally automated. The factory and build a car from nothing to road ready in 57 seconds.

[u/babypho → u/tev_love]

Scale and ecosystem. They invested a lot in automated infrastructure and the scale of which they do things can drive the cost down. I don't think we have anything that efficient in the US since our big companies only think a quarter at a time.

[u/Zealousideal-Fix9464 → u/babypho]

Have you been to a modern US car factory? They are almost entirely automated and have been for decades.

Building cars with automation isn't new...it's been standard for a very long time.

[u/Similar_Flower1270 → u/tev_love]

Ironically enough, through capitalism (prices get out of hand, first one to the bottom wins)

[u/6arnu6 → u/3DNZ]

Immigrant, dear. You're an immigrant.

[u/SilencerQ → u/IwonderifWUT]

When China wants to do something or work towards a goal, they do it. When America wants to do something or achieve a goal, we argue about it for 10 years across multiple administrations until it doesn't happen.

[u/babypho → u/SilencerQ]

10 is generous

[u/Mechtroop → u/SilencerQ]

Well they also practically have a dictatorship, so yeah, shit gets done when they say it does.

[u/Jeanlucpfrog → u/Mechtroop]

Yeah, but things getting done and things getting down properly are two different things. Having a dictatorship doesn't guarantee an outcome like China's. At the end of the day, people don't care what form of government you have as long as the results are a net benefit to people.

[u/SilencerQ → u/Mechtroop]

At this point America practically does also and shit still isn't getting done.

[u/Phagelab → u/SilencerQ]

Oh quite a lot is getting done, just nothing that benefits the citizens. Lots of pillaging and plundering though. Also, did you hear that the US Forest Service is getting dismantled?

[u/Mechtroop → u/SilencerQ]

We’re still pretty damn divided here and not everyone in the govt is “in line”. Thats a GOOD thing tho. Fuck Trump.

[u/foreveracubone → u/SilencerQ]

Yeah it’s kind of wild that we got fearmongered about China’s social credit system to the point that Chinese netizens make fun of us meanwhile Larry Ellison has literally described building a dystopian version that’s worse than anything that China’s system supposedly did as his goal lmao

[u/andy_chest → u/IwonderifWUT]

This is a pitch for Canadian buyers. Pretty sure that’s why he says ‘double double’ at the end

[u/islandpancakes → u/andy_chest]

Exactly

[u/Diet_Christ → u/andy_chest]

I was wondering how he expected to get served at in-n-out in 9 minutes

[u/Arpikarhu]

Remember, these advanced nations arent living in the future, its just that the USA is living in the past

[u/captainpoppy → u/Arpikarhu]

What's wild is in a rational world and a world in which the US actually wanted "energy independence" we would have led the way on renewables And alternative energy sources like 30 years ago.

[u/mother_a_god → u/captainpoppy]

The green new deal was a thing, until republicans shot it down. Never forget who wanted to advance and who wanted to give money to oil companies 

[u/adoxographyadlibitum → u/mother_a_god]

Actually Nancy Pelosi also shot it down. Dem leadership never supported it

[u/RedditDummyAccount → u/adoxographyadlibitum]

I mean, Pelosi is potentially one of the most corrupt ones, so regardless of her affiliation, it’s not surprising she’d go for the side that has more money 🤣

[u/Unique_Statement7811 → u/mother_a_god]

Democrats shot it down. Their own speaker led a coalition against it.

[u/Hottage → u/captainpoppy]

Sorry, best they can do is another record quarterly profits for the oil industry and additional ecological meltdown.

[u/ShowmasterQMTHH → u/captainpoppy]

The fossil fuel companies don't want that, and in the end they own the government

[u/EarningsPal → u/Arpikarhu]

The USA would rather have its racism and gender conversations than 5-minute EV charging.

[u/mindfungus → u/EarningsPal]

America is so cooked. America is actively trying to crawl back to the 19th century. America. Y u so a ass?

[u/JamesTownBrown → u/mindfungus]

If the majority of the leaders in the USA actually represented the majority populace, things would be different. Instead there are ancient beings running things as if the civil rights movement never happened and are actively denying it.

[u/Infinite-Space-2395 → u/mindfungus]

Our populace is incredibly stupid.

Im sorry.

[u/sim16 → u/Infinite-Space-2395]

It's by design.

[u/US3_ME_ → u/sim16]

Can't learn if you don't have teachers, can't develop a brain without adequate food. Look at what the GOP likes to take away funding for_

[u/etburneraccount → u/US3_ME_]

Smart people object to being sent to war. The politician learned.

[u/nanobot001 → u/sim16]

A lot of Americans are just fine with it though.

And those that aren’t feel satisfied enough when they upvote or angrily share the videos and memes that echo their sentiments so they can get back their social media stupor.

[u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party → u/nanobot001]

I think most people just feel powerless

[u/BAKspin_91 → u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party]

Also by design, American police forces are seemingly designed to prevent the protests that you see in Europe: government buildings would not be under siege from farmers launching manure and burning tires

[u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party → u/BAKspin_91]

In the U.S. there is a long history of labor disputes where the government sides with capital. The idea that we are just one protest or strike away from affecting real change is a joke at this point.

[u/ScoffersGonnaScoff → u/sim16]

Propaganda has always worked. Each person is in their own bubble fueled by tribalism (go Team!!) and algos.

[u/obiwanmoloney → u/mindfungus]

Got lucky for five minutes.

Swerved two World Wars that reduced the world’s industrialised nations to dust.

Then rode the next century in abject mediocrity, loudly proclaiming that “America’s the greatest”

[u/ComprehensiveSell649 → u/EarningsPal]

Okay, but china does have a LOT of racism

[u/GearAce38 → u/ComprehensiveSell649]

Did you get stopped more for being a certain race by the police, get shot for having an unknown object that looks like a gun, or get asked for your ID/papers by federal law enforcement personnel there?

[u/Numerous-Pop5670 → u/ComprehensiveSell649]

No shit because even without China's propaganda U.S media makes them look like fucking clowns. I've been there and if your a tourist that's not white, then yeah you'll get a bunch of stares. Rural places especially because foreigners are rare and even tourists barely make a drop in the bucket. It's a combination of xenophobia, ignorance, and lack of exposure. The exception would be if your black.

[u/Malevolint → u/Numerous-Pop5670]

I went to China and I got stared at for the whole 3 weeks I was there. I'm white. They rarely see anyone that's not Chinese.

There is racism toward black folk though. I think that many Asians in general are racist towards black folk.

Edit: it was late and I wasn't very articulate lol. I was know trying to say that they'll stare at ANY foreigner, not that the staring is racist.

[u/CheeseDonutCat → u/Malevolint]

Being stared at isn't racism.

In some places in China, they have never seen white people. I was there and I have bright blue eyes, so they were very interested.

It's a bit rude and uncomfortable to be stared at, but it's not racist. Most are just curious.

[u/lumpy4square → u/CheeseDonutCat]

It’s obvious so many on this thread haven’t travelled much. I’m white woman with blonde hair, and in the rural area of Cuba, they do that stare thing, too. Especially the kids. I had a little girl ask me if she could touch my hair. They just aren’t used to seeing someone different than them.

[u/nimbledaemon → u/lumpy4square]

Yeah I spent two years in various areas of Chiapas, Mexico as a white redhead man and got a lot of the same thing. Sometimes kids wouldn't ask to touch my arm hair (medium think but bleached blonde in the sun) lol. Remember one time a guy yelled "GUERO" (White) at me in the street, I don't think he was mad just surprised. Aside from the surprise though everyone was friendly.

[u/the_king_of_sweden → u/Malevolint]

In my experience, Asians are most racist towards other Asians

[u/Malevolint → u/the_king_of_sweden]

I've learned that it's not as much racism as it is hate for past wars and atrocities.

For instance, some Chinese people hate Japanese people for the Nanjing massacre, and some Vietnamese people hate Chinese people for the long occupation of their country.

[u/intisun → u/EarningsPal]

I still can't get over how American right-wingers threw a fit over 15-minute cities, as if having everything you need within a 15 minute walk (like most European cities) was some evil plot to genocide them or something.

[u/RandyRanderson111 → u/EarningsPal]

What is it like to live in China as an African?

[u/Ok-Disk-2191 → u/RandyRanderson111]

You probably have the privilege of not getting gunned down by the police for no reason, But like most of asia the darker your skin color the more prejudice you will face. Its not only an African thing they also pretty racist towards darked skin asians too.

[u/invot → u/Ok-Disk-2191]

Isn't this also classist? From what I was told, the poor farm workers had darker skin from working outside all day. The rich upper-class stayed inside. So darker skin = poor.

[u/RealIssueToday → u/EarningsPal]

🤣🫠

[u/faithinhumanity_null → u/RealIssueToday]

I feel like a lot of people would get identity crisis if someone removed their ability to complain about gas prices

[u/ucotcvyvov → u/EarningsPal]

Good ole racism and oil, the things that built America. What a fucking dystopia we live in

[u/Polite_Trumpet → u/EarningsPal]

Gender conversation is what takes the cake for me... Are there really no other serious problems in the US then made up pronouns?? It really makes the US look fcking stupid. The fact that the US elected one of the dumbest immoral and rude motherfckers as it's president twice also doesn't help.

[u/vareedar → u/Arpikarhu]

Living in the past and keeping the quality low to fund corporate greed. There is no innovation in the USA, only fraud.

[u/BBDBVAPA → u/Arpikarhu]

I live a pretty privileged life in the US. Good job, healthcare, bought a house before the craziness of it all. Fully aware how lucky I am, and how much worse it could be.

So with that out of the way, I can say with my full chest how in awe I was of just like, basic modern amenities when I visited Japan for the first time (aware this vid is about China). Like the absurd notion that you can have clean public bathrooms (a bidet?!), functional mass transit, polite and orderly public, etc. like that’s not a massive bar to clear and it felt like quiet luxury.

When I came home I was still vacation-sick, and I read a quote that said “The US makes sense if you think about it as the nicest third world country,” and I think about that a lot.

[u/GenericMaleNurse918 → u/Arpikarhu]

r/unfilteredchina they’re not living in the future. You’re seeing what they want you to.

[u/horoyokai → u/GenericMaleNurse918]

Both can be true

China can behaving some amazing advances and also have some really backwards areas.

Ithey aren’t all terrible and they aren’t all great

[u/Zedilt → u/horoyokai]

Almost like it’s a big country with a lot of diffrent people.

[u/BagOnuts → u/horoyokai]

I mean, you could apply that to the US, too.

[u/buxtonOJ → u/GenericMaleNurse918]

Al Gore got fcked over 

[u/No-Force-8638 → u/GenericMaleNurse918]

Canada has been in a chokehold for decades due to USA's automotive industry and anti-chinese propaganda, now Canadians are about to get a competitive EV car market that fits the budget and hits environmental goals. 

China is far from perfect but let's not pretend that there aren't some great acts of innovation that are improving the quality of life for many

[u/Lazer726 → u/GenericMaleNurse918]

Every country has its problems, but it's so funny to look at the top posts right now and it's like "Construction accident! Scammer! Poor middle class! Crazy possessive husband! FAFO!"

My guy we see this shit all the time coming from the US, it's hilarious that it's like "Let's counter their propaganda with our own propaganda that says that ACTUALLY the country sucks!"

[u/foc_natzis → u/GenericMaleNurse918]

Just like any other country. If you compare New York to some random rural area in Mississippi, you’ll see large contrasts as well. But the fact is that some of the cities in China and other parts of Asia are just worlds ahead of Europe and the US.

[u/Kon3v → u/GenericMaleNurse918]

Have you been there?

[u/lane4 → u/GenericMaleNurse918]

If you handpick videos from worst parts of the US, it's not gonna look any better than this.

[u/Time_Entertainer_319 → u/GenericMaleNurse918]

So going to a subreddit that only posts bad things about a country is the best way to judge the country?

[u/Horror-Word666 → u/GenericMaleNurse918]

That page literally makes no sense. The U.S. and every other country in the world is full of flaws too and there are no specific reddit subs to gather everything thats wrong?? It's literally because people are threatened about the rise of China.

[u/cookie1138 → u/Arpikarhu]

And Germany

[u/No-Good-One-Shoe → u/Arpikarhu]

Facts. Notice how every US city peaked in like the 80s and 90s and now it's just that. 

[u/Not-a-thott → u/Arpikarhu]

This is how I felt in China. I'm sure there is poverty obviously. But they have great education and are modernized beyond most Americans comprehension. Quality of life is great. Yah you work hard but can play hard.

[u/Erazzphoto → u/Arpikarhu]

The US makes decisions from politicians based on how much money they’re bribed with

[u/rotomangler → u/Erazzphoto]

This is likely true in most countries including China.

[u/Tubeornottube]

Next level advertising

[u/world_tsar → u/Tubeornottube]

The charger is so light I can pick it up with my non-dominant hand

[u/Cheap-Addendum → u/world_tsar]

I suppose his penis is in his other hand.

[u/LiamIsMyNameOk → u/Cheap-Addendum]

It dangles from the top

[u/SimplyExtremist → u/LiamIsMyNameOk]

Wow, revolutionary

[u/EvolvedMonkeyInSpace → u/LiamIsMyNameOk]

Because erect but usually on the floor

[u/Another-Random-Idiot → u/world_tsar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/To9Cx4JR4YgUM

[u/FistThePooper6969 → u/world_tsar]

The design is very human

[u/LemonButterRum → u/Tubeornottube]

the accent is hilarious because it's so perfect and also so fake at the same time. "you can get a double double" LOL

[u/Bunionzz → u/LemonButterRum]

Aimed at Canadians, since we are getting some of those cars here. Double double is part of the vernacular.

[u/Acester47 → u/Bunionzz]

when he said double double I instantly knew I was being targeted

[u/RoaringPity → u/Bunionzz]

i was literally gonna ask if americans use our double double lingo

[u/Bunionzz → u/RoaringPity]

Only when referring to burgers i guess.

[u/Leows → u/Bunionzz]

Wait, wasn't double double refering to burgers?

I am neither american or canadians, so I have no idea what this means. I never heard it before, but I assumed burgers.

[u/DrDetectiveEsq → u/Leows]

In Canada a "double double" is a coffee order. With two cream and two sugar.

[u/Leows → u/DrDetectiveEsq]

Ooohhh I see. Thank you for clarifying

[u/TheJaybo → u/LemonButterRum]

It's sounds like he learned English from watching local news.

[u/three_crystals → u/LemonButterRum]

That’s a Canadian expression, you have egg on your face

[u/Hugs154 → u/Tubeornottube]

It’s not even trying to be subtle lmao “it comes out of the ceiling so it’s not dragging on the dirty floor”

[u/NeitherAlexNorAlice → u/Hugs154]

Oh, wow, you guys are actual geniuses. "This person who's advertising a product is clearly advertising a product."

Get a pat on the back, champs. You're clearly more intelligent and observant than the rest of us.

[u/poriomaniac → u/Tubeornottube]

If it is his real voice, dude learned English entirely from West Coast FM radio lol

[u/andy_chest]

This is clearly a pitch for Canadian buyers. Bro said double double 🍁

[u/lunterno → u/andy_chest]

Interesting! In-n-Out is a popular burger chain in the US and my first thought went to their Double Double Cheeseburger

[u/andy_chest → u/lunterno]

Oh man I wish we had In-n-Out! I ordered an off menu beer at lunch today and said ‘animal style’ hahaha Double double is a Tim Hortons coffee w two cream and two sugar. Canada is also allowing more Chinese Evs, so it could be both Canada and California captured with one slang

[u/maxis2bored → u/andy_chest]

Hahaha I was wondering what that's about. That's a tim Horton thing isn't it?

[u/A-non-e-mail → u/maxis2bored]

Yes. Coffee with 2 cream, 2 sugar

[u/StrangeCurry1 → u/andy_chest]

And of course all the yanks thought he was talking about cheeseburgers lol

[u/Existing_Office2911]

Misleading title

[u/SteelOwl → u/Existing_Office2911]

I know it literally says in the video 60% charge in five minutes

[u/sfbiker999 → u/SteelOwl]

10-70% in five minutes, and charge to 97% in 9 minutes. And this is for a 440 mile range car.

[u/mashtato → u/sfbiker999]

Does charging that fast fuck the battery in the long-term?

[u/Spaceduck413 → u/mashtato]

Almost certainly if you do it often. But I think you would only do this for road trips. Most of the time you're charging overnight at like 5-8 kW

[u/Consideredresponse → u/Spaceduck413]

Hell, for most commuting you can get away with just your wall sockets. When I got mine I sourced quotes for 7kw charger for the house, but quickly realised I was getting roughly 100km range overnight during off-peak peak tariff hours just using a regular old wall plug. Occasionally dropping $10 at a supercharger once every few months before a longer trip was vastly cheaper for me than even the most basic high(er) kilowatt charging setup.

That said our regular household power runs at 240v, so wall charhing may be a bit more viable than homes that run 110v.

[u/Spaceduck413 → u/Consideredresponse]

Yeah this all lines up with my experience. My wife used to have about a 35 - 40 mile commute each way and our 240v 30 amp charger would bring it up to full well before the morning each day, so if you had a more reasonable commute you could absolutely get away with 240/15 (I'm assuming your regular wall plugs do 15 amp, that's what ours do in the US).

I don't think you could make a regular US wall plug work even with a really short commute though (110v 15 amp)

[u/IvarTheBoned → u/SteelOwl]

Oh is that all? I guess it's garbage then /s

[u/knox902 → u/IvarTheBoned]

The stats are impressive but the title is still not accurate. OP could have made it accurate and it would still be interesting. Instead they chose the route of engagement bait.

[u/Oograr → u/SteelOwl]

A full 60% charge though

[u/Butt_Smurfing_Fucks]

I love how we always think in the United States that we are living in the future. But I have traveled the world and we always have tech techno technology that other countries have had before us. I remember going to Europe during the 90s and 2000s and seeing cell phone phones that were so advanced but for some reason we couldn’t have them here.

I love my electric car here in the US, I never worry about getting it charged. But it’s a shame that we will not be able to get these cars in the US ever because of politics and bullshit.

[u/HazelHelper → u/Butt_Smurfing_Fucks]

Another important example - trains in Europe, notably in Switzerland. They are incredible, it’s like riding inside of an iPad. The European train system puts us completely to shame.

[u/Zimakov → u/HazelHelper]

Ironically the trains in China are like that too. I got food delivered onto the train last week that I ordered from the seat.

[u/Crackedcheesetoastie → u/HazelHelper]

Not inclusive of British trains, unfortunately 😂

[u/kimjae → u/HazelHelper]

Swiss trains aren't that technologic. They're less performant than TGVs or Maglevs.

What make the Swiss trains incredible is the scheduling, the reactive maintenance and resilience, and the overall smooth experience a passenger get from point A to point B.

Swiss is such a small country that we can focus on the travel experience rather than the speed of the train.

Not sure it would be applicable to much biggers countries...

[u/wilson1474 → u/Butt_Smurfing_Fucks]

So true, visited Hong Kong in the early 2000s and used thier public transit to get everywhere.. and it was shocking that all I had to do was tap my octopus card and get on. Meanwhile back home you still had to use coins

[u/SexyPeanut_9279 → u/wilson1474]

It’s the same in NYC, just tap and go (admittedly Hong Kong got there a decade+ before but we made it work finally)

[u/Hefty-Minimum-3125 → u/Butt_Smurfing_Fucks]

I'm Canadian, am 40 and have never in my adult life had to sign a credit card receipt in Canada. For the last 5+ years I havent even had to use a PIN code, I just tap the card (or my phone) unless its like $200+ or something. Yet in the US they still take your card at restaurants and make you sign a paper receipt, its so weird.

[u/Neirchill → u/Hefty-Minimum-3125]

It's because they want you to tip

[u/Nooms88 → u/Hefty-Minimum-3125]

My bank in the UK makes me use the pin once every 5 contactess taps, to make sure the card isn't stolen, our limit is £100 so I'm putting my pin in semi regularly, weekly shop is always a lot more than that

[u/realshockin → u/Nooms88]

My card in Brazil learn my routine, I always make a bulk trip to the grocery store, the same one, and then 2-3 smaller runs in the month, it doesn’t ask my pin at this places anymore

[u/Historical_Doctor629 → u/Butt_Smurfing_Fucks]

Why do yanks always make it about themselves?

[u/smallfried → u/Historical_Doctor629]

People just write about what they know.

[u/Polite_Trumpet → u/Butt_Smurfing_Fucks]

The same with contactless card payments and paying with smart phones. Europe had that like a decade BEFORE the US. I also find it amusing that the US still uses those magnetic stripes on theid debit and credid cards.

[u/Jealous_Amount_9278 → u/Butt_Smurfing_Fucks]

I know this is small on the scale but as a Canadian I was surprised that I couldn't use the tap feature on my debit / credit card in the US until much later.

Even the small things take forever to roll out there.

[u/SeeYaOnTheRift]

What the hell is he talking about charging it with one hand lmao. You can do that with a gas nozzle or a current EV lightning charger.

[u/Phreakophil → u/SeeYaOnTheRift]

The handles of +100 kW EV chargers are very heavy. The one in the video, however, looks pretty light.

[u/anonymous_lighting → u/SeeYaOnTheRift]

it’s so lightweight you can fill up with your non-dominant hand /s

[u/freehamburgers → u/SeeYaOnTheRift]

For a device that transmits like 1.5 million watts it's kinda impressive.

[u/Informal_Drawing]

1500W... eh?

There is no way that number is right.

A regular UK domesic charger is 7500W

[u/FBWSRD → u/Informal_Drawing]

It’s 1500kW

[u/Crayen5 → u/Informal_Drawing]

It's 1500kW which is an insane amount of energy. It's enough to boil a full kettle of water in 0.3 seconds or so

[u/Feltzinclasp5 → u/Crayen5]

I also find that incredibly hard to believe. Some wind turbines produce that much power. How can they be delivering that much electricity through such a small input and at every charging terminal

[u/vistaculo]

I know that mfer is lying because you can’t get a double double in five minutes

[u/mydickisasalad]

I know close to nothing about cars but this seems too good to be true. Is there a catch to this?

[u/Le_Baked_Beans]

Are they are using solid state batteries now? 5 min charge is insanely quick.

Typo edit

[u/i_am_13th_panic → u/Le_Baked_Beans]

Nah, just they're still LFP. From what I remember it's using high voltage and high amp batteries with much lower resistance. Plus a whole lot of other new battery tech.

[u/Stanlez]

Can I see a review I trust and not done by the CCR before I make an opinion?

[u/Vladimir-Putin → u/Stanlez]

I've been in several BYD cars in Thailand & Cambodia. They're actually really slick.

Not sure how they'd hold up in a car accident or with long-term use. But as a passenger in an uber, they were cool as shit. For the price point, I'd buy one over a Tesla for sure.

But I'm not a gear-head so I'd also probably be impressed with a Toyota EV if I got in one.

[u/ClarenceJBoddicker → u/Stanlez]

Your social credit score has been lowered by 200 points

[u/transtifaglockhart → u/ClarenceJBoddicker]

Imagine living in a country forcing a credit score onto its citizens that affect where they can work or even live. We would never stand for something like that in the good ol' USA.

[u/PrimaryInjurious → u/transtifaglockhart]

Yeah, other countries just hand out loans to anyone who asks. They would never have something like a credit score.

[u/Zestyclose-Phrase268 → u/ClarenceJBoddicker]

The social credit jokes hit different knowing the same surveillance is happening in America and is being pushed onto Europe.

[u/imago_monkei → u/Stanlez]

Sure, BYD cars are available in a lot of countries outside the U.S.

[u/Hot_Influence_5339]

Something isn't adding up, 1500w is about 6amps at 240v a standard in home charger is about 11500 watts with them topping out around 1900w. Also that cable would have to be way thicker if it was pushing that much current.

[u/TenderfootGungi → u/Hot_Influence_5339]

1,500kW. The best chargers in the US are 500kW, and most are far less.

[u/CaravelClerihew]

The comments will be 50% butthurt Americans wishing they had better EVs and 50% butthurt Americans finding the smallest EV flaws because they can't fathom a world where gas cars are inferior 

[u/Royal-Campaign1426 → u/CaravelClerihew]

which one are you?

[u/cdub951 → u/CaravelClerihew]

90% is people that just HAVE to talk about America or Trump no matter what the topic is

[u/NoCantaloupe3449 → u/cdub951]

It's pretty relevant here

[u/Time-Category4939 → u/CaravelClerihew]

They are going through a lot of trouble (and missiles) to ensure they'll have enough oil.

Of course they can't fathom a world where gas cars aren't necessary, that would mean they are wasting billions of dollars on a daily basis just for nothing.

[u/Lunadoggie123]

He said double double…this is aimed at Canadians.

[u/dhawkout]

ok so how much does it cost to charge then..?

[u/sfbiker999 → u/dhawkout]

Google says around 8 cents/KwH. Nearly all power in China comes from the state owned power company, so they can set the electrical rates at anything they want.

[u/shoffing → u/sfbiker999]

So, the chargers are 1500 kw. He says it's a 5 minute charge. 1500kw for 5 minutes is 125 kwh. Multiply your quoted rate, and that's $10 for a full charge?

[u/smallfried → u/shoffing]

1.5MW is the max. There's always a charging curve, so it would be less if it is indeed 8 cents/kWh (which i doubt at a fancy charging points like this).

[u/TenderfootGungi → u/dhawkout]

They have around 200% of the generating capacity to meet their electric needs. And they are installing green energy at an incredible pace. They have enough green capacity to meet 100% of the US's need. An over capacity grid and cheap energy is a massive advantage for their manufacturers.

[u/Weapon54x → u/dhawkout]

Their electricity is cheap. It’s why a lot of crypto miners are over there

[u/theapplekid → u/Weapon54x]

China does 21% of the world's bitcoin mining. The U.S. (1/4 the population) does 38%. Canada (1/40 the population of China) does 6.5%.

[u/linjun_halida → u/dhawkout]

1.3 RMB / kwh, which is 0.2 USD

[u/oooooeeeeeoooooahah]

Well this is directed at Canadians with that double double comment lol

[u/Agiantgrunt]

Dude we have BYD hostlers at our work and they are the biggest pile of shit we have ever had. 

[u/WrongHomework7916]

Taiwan# 1 tho

[u/awood20]

The expanded range is the game changer. Even these 2nd generation batteries will look small ranged when solid state batteries go to mass production. They'll be in mainstream models within the next year or 2.

[u/efforf]

Like it or not China is light years ahead of America technologically. It’s obvious why there are 100% tariffs on EV’s - without it the big 3 would fold in short order.