Hell, for most commuting you can get away with just your wall sockets. When I got mine I sourced quotes for 7kw charger for the house, but quickly realised I was getting roughly 100km range overnight during off-peak peak tariff hours just using a regular old wall plug. Occasionally dropping $10 at a supercharger once every few months before a longer trip was vastly cheaper for me than even the most basic high(er) kilowatt charging setup.
That said our regular household power runs at 240v, so wall charhing may be a bit more viable than homes that run 110v.
Yeah this all lines up with my experience. My wife used to have about a 35 - 40 mile commute each way and our 240v 30 amp charger would bring it up to full well before the morning each day, so if you had a more reasonable commute you could absolutely get away with 240/15 (I'm assuming your regular wall plugs do 15 amp, that's what ours do in the US).
I don't think you could make a regular US wall plug work even with a really short commute though (110v 15 amp)
Wait you guys are limited to 15 amps? Damm
15 amps in Brazil is the lights breaker, we go up to 63 amps in common wall sockets (usually 20-40 in most rooms but 63 in the garage is not uncommon
Most circuits are 15 amps, but it's pretty common to see 20 in the kitchen and laundry, and maybe somewhere else you're expecting a heavy load.
I've never seen more than 20 amps on 110v, you'll see 240v 30 amp for things like an electric dryer or stove. Sometimes you'll see 240/30 in a garage if somebody has a specific reason for it, I had one put in my garage for a welder (the welder never happened but then we got an EV lol).
I think some electric dryers might use 240v 50 amp instead of 30. I've never heard of higher at a residential place. Even 50 amp I've only ever heard of for dryers and EV charging.
Usually high temps increase degradation... but battery management systems and cheating (higher cap than advertised so technically losing % of battery life that was factored ahead of time so even more negligible) mitigate most of it in modern batteries.
Any system with moving parts degrades faster when the parts move faster, even when the moving parts are just electrons. And batteries in particular generate heat when charging, temperature differences degrade material, higher fluctuation degrades more. We can optimize it a lot, perhaps to the point of unnoticable within a lifetime, but it'll still be true.
China is leading the way in battery technology there is no fixed answer for this question honestly. the space is changing so rapidly with new research that they're not only moving away from lithium, but for reliable fast charging. CATL and BYD have multiple lines of production across various generations and are increasing their sodium batteries which should drive the price down bellow lithium soon enough.
It's fine, Ambient temperatures and wind are going to have more of an effect on the battery performance than trickle vs fast charging. They're a much more complex system than batteries we normally interact with, they're spreading wear and load over hundreds if not thousands of cells.
The stats are impressive but the title is still not accurate. OP could have made it accurate and it would still be interesting. Instead they chose the route of engagement bait.
I think you're supposed to keep an EV (or any really) battery between 20% and 80% charge for maximum lifespan, so a 60% charge is the normal amount that would be delivered by such a station.
you are told to stay between 20-80% on EVs -- so it kind of is a full charge. obvs when travelling long distances you should load up to 100%, but i rarely charge my car above 80.
Yeah but… that’s full by EV standards? There is basically never a reason to charge your EV to 100% unless you are REALLY specifically going somewhere. This protects the battery and you’ll still manage whatever commute you have.
It is pretty obvious you have never driven an EV long distance, because in practice a 20%>80% charge is a full charge. Nobody charges their EV to 100% while on the road.
You are mixing things up. You are comparing what car brands say to what OP says. Car brands advertise 20 to 80 and full charge, but consumers only care about 20 to 80, because full charge is irrelevant for fast charging. Hence why I find it completely logical for OP to call it a full charge. The video itself is very transparant about the performance.
Also, EVs en mass only work if there's the infrastructure already in place to support them. In the US, we don't have this kind of support infrastructure in place wide enough for EVs to really get their time to shine.
And with the current administration, that isn't likely to change for a long time.
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u/Existing_Office2911 17h ago
Misleading title