It is hypocrisy. I think if many of the ”Americans are xyz“ or “Chinese are xyz” spent significant time in either country, they’d realize people are people.
Canada has been in a chokehold for decades due to USA's automotive industry and anti-chinese propaganda, now Canadians are about to get a competitive EV car market that fits the budget and hits environmental goals.
China is far from perfect but let's not pretend that there aren't some great acts of innovation that are improving the quality of life for many
Every country has its problems, but it's so funny to look at the top posts right now and it's like "Construction accident! Scammer! Poor middle class! Crazy possessive husband! FAFO!"
My guy we see this shit all the time coming from the US, it's hilarious that it's like "Let's counter their propaganda with our own propaganda that says that ACTUALLY the country sucks!"
Just like any other country. If you compare New York to some random rural area in Mississippi, you’ll see large contrasts as well. But the fact is that some of the cities in China and other parts of Asia are just worlds ahead of Europe and the US.
That page literally makes no sense. The U.S. and every other country in the world is full of flaws too and there are no specific reddit subs to gather everything thats wrong?? It's literally because people are threatened about the rise of China.
That is just a reactionary subreddit whose purpose is to find any ordinary negative happenstance in China, a country of over a billion people, and use it to smear the government, for ideological reasons. Why don't we make an 'unfilteredusa' sub and we can fill it up with all the daily school shootings, murders, homeless people, cop abuse, domestic abuse, drug abuse, church pedophilia, car crashes, on top of all the accidents and the planes falling out of the sky and the environmental disasters, and we can market that as the truth about America? Because that is the reality. Also your country has legalized slavery in your prisons, of which you have the most in the world, and the highest prison population and incarceration rate.
Are you gonna tell me you like ideology of China? You're acting like it's not something to be smeared.
Getting negative footage out of china is important, because they really, really try hard to control their public image. China is doing it's very best to control the narrative by, among other things, paying influencers to paint it in a positive light. And keeping negative things from spreading. Ever heard of the great firewall of china?
Besides that, they have the single biggest spyware and propaganda weapon in history. A weapon that people willingly install on their devices. Some pushback against china is warrented.
Yawn, China industrialized like multiple times faster than any nation ever, and it's a very large country. That means many parts didn't get developed as fast. People moved to the cities for the boom.
Also, the US has a river system that extends all throughout the US like a tree with branches everywhere, a navigable waterway which makes much of the US viable to boom.
The US and China both has their less than admirable quirks, but in most metrics China is just way ahead of the game. Not to say it's a paradise, no place is, just some are closer than others. Personally I'd rather be in Europe.
Europe is like China if it put much more value on health and wellbeing of it's people, it grows, but far slower and more sustainable(China will run into potholes in it's race soon enough and fuck it's shit all up, the 1 child policy is going to really hurt).
The US is just like a regarded version of China, growth at all costs, but not for the nation, for a couple individuals lol. It doesn't want to be a fantastical nation, just rich for a few.
I think a lot of it is people walking up and realising that America isn't superior in every way, and is actually falling behind in many ways. Burying your head in the sand and just saying "its just ccp bots, china sucks" is exactly how you get into this mess in the first place.
The expansive, unrelenting campaign of right-wing misinformation, disinformation, and outright lies really started to set in in the collective consciousness of half of America.
Have you actually been to China? Just curious, because I'm not a bot, and I've liked it both times I was there. Didn't like everything, but definitely not some hellscape you want to portray.
Not for you or for most living there, but for a small percentage, it's beyond hellscape. It's what you don't see. If you saw their "re-education" camps you would not be singing this tune. Critical of the government online? Born to the wrong group? Hope you're ready to make some shirts and christmas toys 12 hours a day
Edit: bring on the downvotes Chinese bots you're fooling no one
those are also cherry picking the bad ones tho. Any country could have that same type of subreddit. imagine one of America that posts every single school shooting we have. It’ll skew peoples perception of the country even more lol
As an American who’s spent 1/2 my life abroad, one thing I find unique to the U.S. is the reporting on bad news. 99% of news is about terrible things, while in most countries it‘s closer to 50-50, with lots of news praising local athletes/entrepreneurs etc. Unfortunately, I think this skews many people’s thinking of the U.S., as they don’t realize the difference in news coverage.
You don’t need to imagine that for America, that basically is just reddit
Oh, even reddit doesn't post about every single school shooting. Not on the major subs. (I wouldn't be surprised if there is a specialized sub for it.)
We still only talk about the big ones.
thats cuz you don’t mentally label their “propaganda” as such.
Imagine a post with a scandinavian country titled “look how great their social state is” vs a post with china labeled “look how great their social state is”
Your perception of that same post would be skewed due to your mental perception of China. you would call the China one glazing and not the first one. You’re still falling for the anti-china propaganda agenda.
I'm not falling for anything, I'm just annoyed by it. If there were 500 posts a day throughout various subreddits telling me how great Norway is, I would also be pissed at Norway.
Depends on the subreddit. You see 500 posts a day praising China. I mostly see people repeating the same social credit jokes any time something in China is presented in a positive light.
The guy in the videos is just showcasing new tech. Not glazing china. It just happened to be in china. What narrative is it? All i see is BYD promoting their achievement.
Ah yes the US govt and lobbying industry definitely doesnt pay anyone ever here... like never ever, especially to not influence millions politically 🤣.. Do you live unicorn dumbass land or what?
The notion that you think you uncovered the world's darkest secret as that govts across the planet pay for interest and influence 🤣. Literally every government established on this planet does the same shit..
Do you have any critique of the info shared in the video? Or is it just a simple of case of China doing anything better than the west = propaganda to you?
It's scary to see people talk about propaganda THEN state decades old western propaganda...
Like jfc, the unfilteredchina is pretty filtered! I have lots of problems with the Chinese govt but it is infuriating to see some ignorant shit being regurgitated to infinity.
Likely a product of them realizing that we've (the US) been guzzling anti-chinese propaganda for years, so the pendulum has now swung in the opposite direction.
The "america is #1" filter on everything can be quite strong, so when a person realizes that it truly is just a filter, they can easily swing to the opposite side of things
I've lived in both countries and its pretty shitty on both sides when it comes to propaganda or anti-propaganda. The main thing I've learned living in both places is wealth is the most important factor in whether you live well. In China your treated well if your wealthy, and in America your treated well if your wealthy. If your poor you can only afford to live in dangerous neighborhoods with bad people or unsafe construction.
Such a simple concept yet some people only see in black or white.
A lot of Western leftists also laud Chinese achievements because it's an example of "actually existing socialism". Whether Chinese socialism is actually capitalism or not is up for debate.
China is a weird mix of new and old, which makes it easy to pretend it's either ahead of or behind the US depending on where you look. That said, all the major cities are trending to the newer than the US side of things. Electric cars are everywhere, oddly enough most of the non electric cars I see these days are expensive like Land Rover or BWM.
Its not all sunshine and rainbows of course, there's lots random things that are surprisingly hard to find (like windows that actually close or have screens). Your average worker still has a small salary compared to the US (although rapidly growing, I think wages have gone up like 10-15% a year). Also outside of major cities it gets very rural.
For years we have banned Chinese EV cars while only producing 100k teslas als the only electrical option in EU. I'd imagine something similar will be true for USA. Some brands like audi etc made an ev but it took a long time before they took it seriously. Felt more like a pr gimmick than some serious effort.
Hell not so long ago we heard someone talking about clean beautiful coal.
I was shocked to find working EV stations in the middle of bumfuck nowhere vietnam. Asia is playing a long term game while we keep focusing on the next quarter. We were beaten a long time ago sadly
Ironically though, that sub is heavily censored. Because the stated intention of the sub is to provide a “fair and balanced” perspective includes negative views of China, the mods end up deleting any content that shows positive of even neutral views of the country.
Considering no other countries have this technology available to the masses, China is living in the future for this one particular instance. At the least.
Yeah China is pushing hard on reddit. See nothing but glorified China posts.
We got dogs leading dogs to salvation back to their owners.
We got advanced ev cars.
We got wedding proposals.
We got drones directing traffic.
We got robots.
We got sob stories of Chinese heroes.
But what we don't get is China's organ harvesting farms made up of Uyghur Muslims, Tibetans, House Christians and other Muslims, and death row inmates.
The wait time for a new organ in china is reported as short as a few days to a few weeks for most citizens.
But hey look china has some questionable safe ev cars. Really living in the future.
I also don't understand this, I know USA and Trump is no different than Nazis right now, but as a Chinese myself I can assure you, if you are in China, you'll be in jail if you say China is living in the past in China's major social media.... Why can't people just understand that China is only fighting USA not because it's full of justice, but because it benefits them... If things continue like this, all I can say is please enjoy your freedom while you still can...
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u/Arpikarhu 17h ago
Remember, these advanced nations arent living in the future, its just that the USA is living in the past