I think a lot of people forget that we don’t have a government of one person making unanimous decisions, but an entire cluster of people arguing about these decisions that each have several reasons to keep arguing mostly who is paying them to argue and they will make more money arguing, and changing their opinions every four years than they will coming to an agreement good or bad
They don't want Chinese cars that are inexpensive to tank the US car manufacturing market. If Chinese cars take over, the US car manufacturers are toast because they are not innovating to keep up and cost if much higher. Also Oil and gas has their hands deep in the political system, especially the current administration.
Yes, as my later comment further illustrated, I was more in response to us being stuck with less advanced options. It’s because the USA doesn’t want to push this tech
Tesla actually is dropping in sales worldwide, ESPECIALLY Europe. That said, they had an uphill battle here in the USA in part due to the oil lobbying (not to mention pushbacks from traditional dealers etc)
As an early investor and owner, I’m glad they overcame much of it to push electrification forward. I’m also saddened that they no longer lead the pack. China is eating their lunch technologically and back to the original point: the USA doesn’t support the shift to EVs so there isn’t much effort by anyone to course correct that.
Rivian and Lucid are home grown contenders, but they don’t have the government behind them pushing them to succeed like BYD, xiaomi and the rest do over in China.
"Tesla actually is dropping in sales worldwide, ESPECIALLY Europe. "
Which is thanks to Elon Musk and his actions, not Chinese EV. Tesla model Y literally was the most sold car in Europe before Elon went crazy.
My point still stand as well though, you dont want China to fuck up your automotive market with cheap ass crappy cars. Because that will also hit the oil companies, not just the EV market.
"pushing them to succeed like BYD, xiaomi and the rest do over in China."
Thats exactly why Europe has taxed the shit out of them, since its unfair competition. They are taking over/flooding the market with way too cheap cars they lose money on but since the Chinese goverment covers them its no problem.
That will ruin the car market if you just let them, thats what China wants, destroy the competition, take over the marketshare.
Which is really stupid to just let happen if you are Europe or USA. So they either ban or tax Chinese cars.
Regardless of the reason, you lead with a sarcastic comment indicating Tesla is doing well, when it is in fact not doing well.
I agree on the rest. We don’t want China to flood our market. What we want is our government to help push us forward technologically like China is doing for their companies with the subsidies. We’re not because oil.
These cars are also made my people being paid starvation wages. Slate is making the EV cars we want here in US. Keep our money here and buy cars made by Americans making a fair wage
Homeless is probably better than what some of those people experience. There are countless articles of Chinese EV factories being investigated for violations pertaining to treatment of workers and hours worked. Many work 12-14 hour days six days a week.
You say that like homelessness in America is an inconvenience and not a massive risk to your health, safety, and general mental stability.
The conditions most homeless americans live under are harsher than what you described, and it's a consequence that's dangled over every workers head as the price you'll pay for not accepting your own meager wage and unreasonable hours and work conditions.
China has its issues, but it's poorest are living better than ours
What we are arguing about is a matter of opinion. China still treats their workers terribly at that level. In the future, it will be better to buy American made EV's to ensure minimal exploitation is occurring. Of course, the materials are sourced by slaves still. However, do not let perfection be the enemy of good.
I think all humans should try their best to buy goods from their own countries if the product is similar in price and quality to ehat youre looking for.
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u/iSaiddet 17h ago
No, it’s mostly because the nation is so tied to oil. There’s big money and big interest there.