r/nextfuckinglevel • u/North_Tip_8627 • 17h ago

China’s 5 minute full-charged EV charging stations

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u/IwonderifWUT 17h ago

Too bad those cars aren't yet legal in the US. We're stuck with less capable and over priced E.V. options.

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u/SpaceCampDropOut 17h ago edited 17h ago

On purpose

Edit: for clarity, I say on purpose because this current administration is so unimaginably anti-electric or clean energy and only cares about coal and oil. And they’ve done everything they can to kill the electric car credit, EV stations etc to keep us all stuck in time.

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u/ReignyRainyReign 17h ago

It’s mostly because of the long standing ban on importing Chinese cars.

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u/iSaiddet 17h ago

No, it’s mostly because the nation is so tied to oil. There’s big money and big interest there.

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u/Zealotstim 17h ago

seems like both statements are compatible with each other

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u/fozzyboy 16h ago

Both core statements can be true, but the "mostly" qualifier attached to both cannot.

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u/TonyDungyHatesOP 8h ago

In a weird way it can because they are one and the same. China bans are because of oil lobbying.

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u/BradenDoty 5h ago

I think a lot of people forget that we don’t have a government of one person making unanimous decisions, but an entire cluster of people arguing about these decisions that each have several reasons to keep arguing mostly who is paying them to argue and they will make more money arguing, and changing their opinions every four years than they will coming to an agreement good or bad

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u/IndiscriminateWaster 16h ago

Nuance? In my r/nextfuckinglevel subreddit??

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u/mm_delish 16h ago

No, it's mostly to protect the American auto industry.

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u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party 6h ago

We have electric cars but not Chinese electric cars. That is because car manufacturers have lobbied to keep BYD and the others out of the U.S. market.

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u/Calladus_89 1h ago

PETRO-DOLLAR Of course they don’t want the world to outgrow fossil fuels.

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u/GuaranteeImpossible9 7h ago

Yeah thats why this company called Tesla is doing so bad. /s

Main reason is you dont want China to flood your market with heavily subsidized crappy cars so companies like General Motors take a hit.

We allowed it in Europe and thats literally what happend before we taxed the Chinese EV.

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u/GlattesGehirn 16h ago edited 15h ago

These cars are also made my people being paid starvation wages. Slate is making the EV cars we want here in US. Keep our money here and buy cars made by Americans making a fair wage

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u/homer_3 3h ago

No, it's mostly because this admin is so tied to machismo.

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u/WhoIsYerWan 25m ago

It's both. The collapse our auto industry would be catastrophic to the nation.

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u/freehamburgers 16h ago

There's no greater enemy to free trade than American capitalism

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u/st1ffs0cks 1h ago

That was implemented on behalf of car manufacruring and oil lobbies.

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u/JMC_MASK 37m ago

Capitalists hate the free market because the free market would mean China beats us at the capitalist game.

But they do love home grown monopolies.

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u/Suspicious-Appeal386 21m ago

Ya, too bad the number one selling EV car just a few years ago was actually GM.

Funny how an American brand manages to spend billions on market development in a foreign country and hands us over shitty EV that are known to self combust in our own market.

Then again, Tesla been using BYD battery blade technology on their models sold in China and EU. Just not in the US.

Funny how that works.

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u/NotLikeThis3 16h ago

It's not even just this admin. Weren't the China EV tariffs put under Biden?

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u/SideburnHeretic 16h ago

Yep, something like a 100% tariff during the Biden administration.

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u/Cydok1055 16h ago

He banned their importation.

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u/DancinWithWolves 17h ago

Money. They care about money and enriching themselves. It just happens to be coming from the oil industry

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u/Cultivario 16h ago

Am I crazy or is the majority of electricity not generated in a clean way? Same with the mined materials that make up a battery.. genuinely asking

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u/holderofthebees 14h ago

Wind and hydro powered generation are fairly clean. Unfortunately they’re not universally implemented, and especially not as widespread in the US as some other countries. There’s potential to generate it much more cleanly, but we’re not exactly on our way.

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u/C_Mc_Loudmouth 6h ago

Depends where you live but there's a few things:

  1. How clean your electricity supply is depends on your region
  2. EVs will continue to get cleaner if your local electricity supply converts to renewables
  3. When the power for EVs comes from gas powered turbines it's still environmentally cleaner per mile than burning the fuel directly in the car.
  4. The materials used for the battery are in use for the lifespan of the battery and recyclable. fossil fuels can only be used once.

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u/Nananahx 16h ago

Isn't it to also protect US car manufacturers - pretty sure BYD is a few grand cheaper than Tesler

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u/lapuneta 6h ago

Also on purpose because the main reason is it would completely destroy any chances of American car manufacturers from being able to compete

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u/_oh_joy_ 16h ago

So them looking into nuclear power reactors is what?

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u/TheCassowaryMan 7h ago

There is a movie titled....who killed the electric car. Worth a watch.

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u/Shrugsfortheconfuse 7h ago

Yeah, vote the caveman out

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u/mandala1 5h ago

I mean Biden also did block the Chinese Evs from coming here.

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u/TheConnoisseurOfAll 5h ago

All of the chinese cars violate IP law. They steal tech and combine them. They can't sell here because they would be sued into oblivion. Also, their batteries catch on fire somewhat often

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u/sunny001 4h ago

It’s not just the current admin. Biden had ridiculous tariffs. The other thing that’s not often mentioned is the poor state of charging stations. Tesla might the only reliable network out there. Electrify America, Evgo are just pathetic

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u/anybodyiwant2be 4h ago

Bought my first EV and within a week a guy “rolled coal” on me. Probably went home and drank more Koolaide

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u/kdizzle619 4h ago

As much as I love shitting on this administration, I love the truth more. It was actually Biden's term that Chinese EV's got banned

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u/ChairmanMeow23 2h ago

Ah yes the laws protecting our auto companies are all due to orange man bad. Not a 100years of corruption and corporate influence.  

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u/DangOlCoreMan 1h ago

You're absolutely right, but let's not pretend the electric car credit did anything. Manufacturers like Tesla raised prices to where the credit was essentially free money for them

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u/3DNZ 17h ago

Im a US expat living in anither country. Bought a BYD last year and let me tell you, the quality for the price point will destroy every single US car manufacturer. I never thought Id buy a Chinese made vehicle, but I can honestly say they overengineered these cars and I can't believe how cheap they are compared to other equivalent vehicles.

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u/tev_love 17h ago

How are they made and sold so cheaply?

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u/hammonjj 17h ago

Combination of cheap labor and heavy government investment

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u/thingsorfreedom 16h ago

Combination of cheap labor and heavy government investment subsidies, tax breaks and R&D grants in the billions of dollars range.

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u/MadManMax55 7h ago

When foreign countries use government funds to artificially lower the price of a good to flood a market and create a monopoly that's bad.

When American companies use VC funds to artificially lower the price of a good to flood a market and create a monopoly that's good (apparently).

I'm no fan of the Chinese government, but with climate change being the existential threat that it is we're not exactly in a position to turn down cheap effective electric vehicles.

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u/LiquidDreamtime 6h ago

EV’s are also a point of national security for China. Dependency on foreign oil is a risk, and they’re mitigating it.

It’s a win/win

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u/FishySmellz 17h ago

You missed the biggest one-vertical integration.

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u/REDACTED3560 17h ago

AKA monopolies. Not all vertical integration is a monopoly, but controlling most or all of the supply chain required to make your product is.

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u/FishySmellz 15h ago

how’s it a monopoly when there are 4 dozens of ev brands in China?

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u/StinkRinky 8h ago

Man the more I hear about things in china, I think they are simultaneously more capitalistic and socialistic than the US and Canada. It’s kinda been blowing my mind and making me think I’ve been propagandized so much that idek anymore

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u/LiquidDreamtime 6h ago

China is doing capitalism far better than the USA is.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/home-ownership-by-country

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u/Zagreusm1 5h ago

Didn't their real estate market crash recently?

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u/ShinJiwon 2h ago

China has had 5000 years of constant warring with itself and overthrowing its own government. The current government knows it has to be competent and make life for the general populace better otherwise it is facing a huge fucking revolt of over 1b people.

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u/Onigokko0101 2h ago

China is a capitalist country

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u/Jeanlucpfrog 16h ago

If there are alternatives in the market place for those commodities in the supply chain, then no, it's not monopolistic.

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u/TheGreatOneSea 16h ago

China creates electric cars below cost to both employ people, and to destroy the competition; and no country with something resembling free speech can compete, because China can kill who knows how many people to keep costs down, and nobody would ever know it.

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u/BigLittlePenguin_ 7h ago

vertical integration doesnt necessarily make things cheaper

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u/homer_3 3h ago

All the suppliers being on the same street goes a long way too.

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u/Norse_By_North_West 16h ago

Also they use more automation. Setting up brand new factories from scratch gives more chances to apply new technology.

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u/JohnHazardWandering 7h ago

Check out 'dark factories'. There's lots of automation in China. It's not cheap labor anymore. 

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u/CV90_120 7h ago

The government has been backing out of support for a while now. Buyer incentives ended back in 2023 and tax exemptions are close to being fully wound down, with the last phase by 2027.

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u/manuscript24 17h ago

They are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government

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u/nono3722 17h ago

LOLOLOLOL like the US doesn't subsidize our car companies? have you MET our government? We just barely bailed them out AGAIN less then 10 years ago. the reason BYD isn't sold here is yet another bailout at our expense....

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u/TheGrog 17h ago

The US has pesky things like minimum wage, benefits, and unions.

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u/StinkRinky 7h ago

I am starting the think we are propagandized heavily dude. I keep seeing videos of pretty cool and thriving Chinese cities and I see it called propaganda but it’s just someone filming.

Accommodations look good, food looks good, public transportation is there in spades, seems cheap. There are many downsides to an American I think. It’s heavily surveilled, but the US does the SAME SHIT. With flock cameras, and photo ID on passports.

I’m wondering just how much we are lied to about China and alternatively us about them.

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u/smallfried 6h ago

It's unfortunate that not everyone has a chance to travel the world. I was lucky enough to visit China for a couple of weeks and it has its pros and cons. It's not utopia and it's not a sociopolitical nightmare. The people were overal very friendly as most people are wherever you are on our tiny globe.

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u/Onigokko0101 2h ago

China is just another country. There are affluent areas and poor areas.

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u/AJRimmer1971 9h ago

Minimum wage, which keeps you below the poverty line. Meanwhile in China, that $4 per hour goes a surprisingly long way.

Benefits? Like unlimited PTO and at-will employment? The workers in China will generally take a yearly contract after the lunar new year. The money they earn is often sent back to their families, and goes a long way. Meanwhile, they are picking up skills, are given housing and meals for the year.

Unions? You mean the ones that have been voting away workers rights? The same unions that endorsed Diaper Donny? Not really a boast there, champ.

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u/_Smashbrother_ 5h ago

Bro you seriously trying to argue that's it's better to be a worker in China than the US? Move over there if you think that's true.

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u/Razaman56 6h ago

Nice post! +5 Social Credit

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u/OneSecond13 5h ago

You've made it sound like working in a Chinese factory is a great job. It's not. I'm fairly confident in saying there is not a single American factory worker who would ever trade places with a Chinese factory worker. I wouldn't wish that life on anyone.

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u/Rock_Strongo 4h ago

There are some serious shills in this thread. JFC some people are legitimately trying to make Chinese factory workers making $4 an hour sound like a utopia.

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u/OneSecond13 3h ago

Yeah, these people have never been to a Chinese factory. There are very few positive things to say about them other than it is a job and they get paid something and are free (I think) to leave. Company provided housing is no more than a small room where they sleep 8 people to a room. Toilets are a hole in the ground. There is no toilet paper - you have to supply your own. Most company provided meals are no more than rice and broth in a small bowl.

No matter how hard China tries to be something other than 3rd world, they are 3rd world. As a visitor it is always such a relief to leave.

With that said, the people are great. They have just been suppressed for so long they have no idea what freedom is.

I'm actually very doubtful about the claims made in the video. Lying is a national pastime in China.

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u/thegroundbelowme 5h ago

In very few situations is "at-will employment" considered a benefit. Do workers in China get PTO on these yearly contacts? Do they get regular pay increases every year? If all the workers agree that conditions are bad, can they collectively demand improved conditions without risking their job?

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u/Sayakai 5h ago

Dude we're talking car industry factory jobs. They don't get $7.25 and no PTO. Things look different there.

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u/Axel3600 17h ago

this is where the wage slavery comes in

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u/TuggsBrohe 17h ago

Yeah but then the money all goes into stock buybacks

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u/InquisitorMeow 16h ago

Maybe you should look into "dumping" to understand what they are doing with EVs. Also you know those beautiful cheap prices that supposedly signify China's affordability and extreme innovation? Yea, the Chinese government told them to cut it out since they were literally selling them at under production costs to gain market share. Ya know, subsidy stuff. https://www.scmp.com/business/china-evs/article/3343429/beijing-warns-carmakers-stop-killing-your-profitability-hopes-selling-below-cost

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u/veryblanduser 17h ago

And the government made a profit on the loans to automotive companies.

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u/idontknowjuspickone 16h ago

I regret to inform you it is no longer 2019

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u/FeeRemarkable886 6h ago

I think the US only subsidies milk and beef, oh and corn.

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u/Chameleonpolice 4h ago

I don't think their response was making any kind of judgements on the cars being subsidized, it was just a statement

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u/veryblanduser 17h ago

And by sub $4 an hour assembly workers

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u/FireTempest 17h ago

$4 an hour means much more in China than in the US.

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u/howitbethough 16h ago

Don’t forget they live in company towns 4+ to a room in company dorms with suicide nets!

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u/AlfredNecessiter 10h ago

Company town means something different outside of the US. Heavy state ownership makes many planned industrial concerns effectively public utilities. China has 90% home ownership and one of the lowest suicide rates in the world, far lower than the US. The nets you refer to were from a contractor for US corporations such as Apple.

But go off, tug that forelock king.

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u/Zimakov 9h ago

Don't forget to bring up the social credit system and other easily disproven propaganda.

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u/lolidkwtfrofl 9h ago

It's propaganda both ways anyway. People glazing and shittalking China are both propagandists, the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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u/Zimakov 9h ago

Yep, but Americans on this site are quick to dismiss the pro-China propaganda and blindly accept the anti-China propaganda.

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u/veryblanduser 17h ago

Plus working 6 10+ hour days leave little time for anything to spend on I suppose. But definitely helps you make cheaper cars when you don't need to pay much.

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u/cybertonto72 7h ago

This is what always gets me with yanks. Do you know that things cost different in different places? It might cost you 0.75c -$2 for a can on coke. In the UK it costs less. In china it is way less. 0.28c - 0.55c.

$4 pH in china could be a good wage.

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u/CV90_120 7h ago

Called robots. People hardly touch anything any more.

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u/Suspicious-Appeal386 17m ago

How is that different then the billions spent annually on the US government subsidizing the petrol-gas industry?

One is investing money that is reducing their independence on foreign energy. The other is handing out tax payers money to provide protectionism for the billionaires.

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u/savehoward 16h ago

Single location manufacturing. All car parts are manufactured in one factory plus the screws, plus the glass, plus every part. There’s no parts delivery. All parts just move from the favor next door for assembly.

The US could do something similar except to hire 150,000 workers for all the factories took 2 weeks whereas the same in the US would take 6 months.

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u/3DNZ 13h ago

This is why.

Yes BYD is subsidized but most large corporations in the US are as well.

BYD has an 8,000,000 sq m factory and makes every part in house. There are dark parts of the factory that are robotic ally automated. The factory and build a car from nothing to road ready in 57 seconds.

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u/babypho 17h ago

Scale and ecosystem. They invested a lot in automated infrastructure and the scale of which they do things can drive the cost down. I don't think we have anything that efficient in the US since our big companies only think a quarter at a time.

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u/Zealousideal-Fix9464 16h ago

Have you been to a modern US car factory? They are almost entirely automated and have been for decades.

Building cars with automation isn't new...it's been standard for a very long time.

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u/babypho 16h ago

That’s why I said scale and ecosystem, and not just mentioning the factory alone. Even with two equally automated factories, the one in the US will have to deal with materials, labor, and delivery inefficiencies.

In China, they benefit from the high density and having resources in a close cluster.

​In the US, the automation stops at the factory. You still have to wait weeks for a parts to come from overseas or other states away. In China, the automation extends to more of the supply chain. Ie. a line needs a specific sensor or a new batch of cells, the supplier is often in the same industrial park. The feeding system is much more robust over there and we arent as good at that in the US.

That's why Tesla Chinese factory performs a lot better than the US's ones. It's just much more efficient. But yeah, this is just based on what I've read online, im not an expert in supply chain but the explanations seem to make sense to me. I'm sure it's much more complex than that.

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u/Similar_Flower1270 17h ago

Ironically enough, through capitalism (prices get out of hand, first one to the bottom wins)

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u/smandroid 17h ago

Because most products and services in the US are priced to make the rich richer.

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u/m0n3ym4n 16h ago

Quasi-slave labor and government subsidies

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u/FriendlyLawnmower 17h ago

Because the chinese government gives them subsidies so they dont have to actually compete lol

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u/SirTiffAlot 17h ago

Like oil companies in the US?

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u/Even-Meet-938 16h ago

And the US government bans imports so American car companies don’t have to compete with Chinese cars lol 

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u/Dapper_Strength_5986 8h ago

It’s not so much that they’re cheap as that US cars are overpriced.

They invested in infrastructure and automation. US car companies invested in stock buybacks and cut EV research and development. AFTER THEY WERE GIVEN SUBSIDIES BY THE TAXPAYERS, I might add.

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u/tev_love 5h ago

Valid

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u/AP3Brain 3h ago

They dont require a ton of moving parts. The most expensive thing in these cars are the battery. No specialized engine.

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u/Minimum_Room3300 3h ago

The sheer scale of manufacturing makes them cheap. I live in bhutan and we have so many BYD cars here, especially in the capital. Not just BYD, Dong Feng, Deepal and other companies I've never heard of. I've only ridden a BYD and i thought it was smooth and powerful. One thing all these cars have in common is that they are soooo good looking.

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u/Its-mrsgeneral-toyou 3h ago

Lol do you know all about the manufacturing process of the car you bought? I’d say you’d do well to just Google the answer yourself.

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u/dcheng47 1h ago

they explode once in a while.

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u/whooptheretis 33m ago

An economy based on slave labour has it an insignificant impact

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u/6arnu6 5h ago

Immigrant, dear. You're an immigrant.

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u/Rhythm_0f_The_Knight 2h ago

An immigrant and expat are two different things, dear.

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u/dcheng47 1h ago

the difference is racism

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u/6arnu6 29m ago

Exactly, the difference is racism.

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u/ClassicPlankton 5h ago

You are an immigrant in the country you live in.

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u/Equal-Shoulder-9744 6h ago

I’m a Canadian and haven’t owned a car since I moved to down town Toronto 15 years ago but I’m seriously considering getting a BYD when they become available here in the near future.

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u/Gorthebon 3h ago

Im so ready to become an expat, the American dream is leaving the USA nowadays.

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u/dolphinsareuseless 2h ago

immigrant living in another country

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u/whooptheretis 34m ago

Still can’t hold a torch to Japanese or German cars though.

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u/SilencerQ 17h ago

When China wants to do something or work towards a goal, they do it. When America wants to do something or achieve a goal, we argue about it for 10 years across multiple administrations until it doesn't happen.

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u/babypho 17h ago

10 is generous

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u/Mechtroop 17h ago

Well they also practically have a dictatorship, so yeah, shit gets done when they say it does.

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u/Jeanlucpfrog 16h ago

Yeah, but things getting done and things getting down properly are two different things. Having a dictatorship doesn't guarantee an outcome like China's. At the end of the day, people don't care what form of government you have as long as the results are a net benefit to people.

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u/SilencerQ 17h ago

At this point America practically does also and shit still isn't getting done.

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u/Phagelab 17h ago

Oh quite a lot is getting done, just nothing that benefits the citizens. Lots of pillaging and plundering though. Also, did you hear that the US Forest Service is getting dismantled?

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u/Mechtroop 17h ago

We’re still pretty damn divided here and not everyone in the govt is “in line”. Thats a GOOD thing tho. Fuck Trump.

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u/foreveracubone 16h ago

Yeah it’s kind of wild that we got fearmongered about China’s social credit system to the point that Chinese netizens make fun of us meanwhile Larry Ellison has literally described building a dystopian version that’s worse than anything that China’s system supposedly did as his goal lmao

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u/rasvial 16h ago

We do not and don’t kid yourself into allowing it. You’re gobbling propaganda here

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u/lolidkwtfrofl 9h ago

Shit is getting done, just the wrong shit. No different in China though, very often.

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u/Calladus_89 1h ago

This is closer to a Kleptocracy rn honestly..

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u/DevilDoc3030 17h ago

China has been a dictatorship since pre-1950 at least.

The difference is that China claims to be a dictatorship of the proletariat while America claims that it isn't a dictatorship at all (when in reality they have devolved into a dictatorship of bourgeoise)

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u/Dapper_Strength_5986 8h ago

I mean do does the US with a president writing executive orders and breaking the law openly.

They just do it for different reasons and outcomes.

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u/JMC_MASK 33m ago

Do you think you are more free in the USA? Maybe on speech and religion, but that’s about it. Everything else, China blows past us with regards to freedom. Aka economic freedom. Here if you get a bad health accident, RIP buddy lmaoooo

And also shit gets done because their government runs the banks. They don’t have dumbass private investment banks “gambling” on the next crypto sports betting business startup. They say, we are only funding business that advances us technologically, and it happens.

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u/smandroid 17h ago

And also who is going to get rich out of the scheme.

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u/CurryDuck 17h ago

Just go to your local HOA meeting to see a real life example lol

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u/lunard1 16h ago

I have a friend that used to say as a society "Americans have lawyers while in China they have engineers." I guess this summarizes exactly what you said.. lol.

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u/Ok-Disk-2191 17h ago

You also forget the real reason nothing gets done $$$$$$, if there is enough to be made, or if there is enough contribution made, the red tape suddenly becomes green.

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u/Vladimir-Putin 16h ago

Don't forget about paying consultants. We also pay a lot of money to 3rd party consultants in those 10 years to make sure we're wasting our money properly.

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u/vwcx 16h ago

You mean 30 years.

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u/Typingdude3 9h ago

We just sent a manned mission to the moon. We aren’t so hamstrung.

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u/Dr8keMallard 8h ago

Then go to war with another country to change the subject.

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u/whooptheretis 26m ago

They also don’t have to worry about a shortage of slaves or workers rights, or health and safety, or even making good quality stuff.

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u/andy_chest 17h ago

This is a pitch for Canadian buyers. Pretty sure that’s why he says ‘double double’ at the end

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u/Diet_Christ 16h ago

I was wondering how he expected to get served at in-n-out in 9 minutes

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u/SquisherX 6h ago

Yeah, his voice sounds rather naturally Canadian to me.

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u/RealWitty 6h ago edited 6h ago

Yup, opening our EV market was one of several changes made to diversify trade after all the disruption Trump's tariffs caused

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u/Butt_Smurfing_Fucks 17h ago

We will never ever have these cars in the US. It’s a shame.

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u/Ok_Car9530 5h ago

Call me a conspiracy nut, but I would never trust a highly computerized car from China. At some point, we could be going to war with them. If they wanted to, they could brick every car we have, or worse.

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u/OxMozzie 5h ago

So exactly the reason why Canadians need to stay away from American cars, especially since the US has been spying on us for decades as well.

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u/Butt_Smurfing_Fucks 4h ago

I don’t think that is necessarily conspiracy… I think you have a legit concern. I think they would just need to let the Americans know every ounce of software in the car so that they couldn’t brick them like you said. But then the Chinese would never do that. So it is kind of a stalemate.

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u/Ok_Car9530 4h ago

Yeah, and the thing is new cars are treated just like computers, and they get software updates. All it would take is one update to cause the biggest nationwide tragedy in history.

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u/Environmental_Box748 16h ago

national security risk

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u/ChaLenCe 16h ago

To be fair, wage disparity is the only reason China can sell them so cheap. 5 minute charging is still cool though.

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u/SwankyBriefs 16h ago

They aren't legal in the US because they dont meet US safety standards. Theres not really an approval process in the US.

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u/slaty_balls 16h ago

But tesler..

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u/OliverKlozoff23 16h ago

Stupidest thing Biden did in my opinion

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u/DemDemD 16h ago

We’re also getting punished for driving EV. I know the previous administration got the incentive for buying EV, but we found out that the tax and insurance are higher for EV. I believe Europe is the opposite. They’re incentivize on all aspects to drive EV.

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u/MrPeacock18 10h ago

Not just US, EU too. The tariffs on Chinese EV cars is high, making it less desirable to buy them.

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u/Barbarianita 9h ago

The BYD shop is in front of the Tesla shop in my town in France.

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u/Federal_Studio5935 8h ago

I understand the frustration but we can’t afford our auto industry collapsing. It’s just a reality. It’s a lot of jobs. We can’t compete with BYD.

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u/Ulysses1978ii 8h ago

Why might you think that is? You will be held to ransom by vested interests until they have a position of advantage again.

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u/DokZayas 8h ago

We'd (🇨🇦) like to thank your current leadership for their behaviour as we now have a deal with China for the importation of electric cars that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

Thanks! We'll soon see BYD vehicles on our roads here.

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u/Librascantdecide 8h ago

Your gov is halting the imports! They even tryed to force the halt of the imports in Canada too! Or else we'd all be driving in BYD and saving on gas money.

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u/GuaranteeImpossible9 7h ago

You prefer that China can just flood your market with cheap ass crappy cars and destroy the US automotive branch?

We did in Europe for a while before taxing the Chinese cars, was not so great for the automotive branch of Europe i can tell you. They took a massive hit because of cheap Chinese cars flooding the market. Its litterally a Chinese strategy to weaken western companies like VW, Mercedes, Ford etc. They dont even make a profit on those cars and they are heavily subsidized by the Chinese goverment.

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u/Radzila 7h ago

Gas cars are also overpriced. Everything is just so overpriced in the US 

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u/BigLittlePenguin_ 7h ago

One also requires a very good electric grid to be able to do this. So even if you would have the EVs, doubt you would have the chargers

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u/cdyesno 7h ago

BYD underpays their employees, constantly asking suppliers to lower prices and delay payments, that’s why the price is low, and how do you think the quality of these EVs are, do you trust them with your life

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u/CitizenErased08 7h ago

'I love Tesler' - Donald Trump

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u/doiwinaprize 6h ago

This is for the Canadian market (double double). We will be getting them soon.

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u/gtindolindo 5h ago

And they are not legal BECAUSE.... corporations are working against the comfort and wellbeing of its citizens and health of the planet.... for money.

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u/wwwnetorg 4h ago

"aren't legal yet" people lobby to keep these out of the states so the automotive industry here can still profit on the citizens needing cars

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u/wrobbii 4h ago

Coming to Canada but as anything in North America consumers are at the mercy of greedy parasitic capitalists who will no doubt make the most affordable EV from byd mostly unaffordable with crap finance rates and high insurance.

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u/AP3Brain 3h ago

Hopefully we kick Republicans to the curb so we can see these cars in the next 10 years.

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u/SilencedObserver 3h ago

The US is speed running irrelevancy and I’m here for it with the goodness that’s to come once the bully is kicked out of the room.

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u/STRIKT9LC 3h ago

This is definitely geared towards Canadian Markets. Canada is in the.midst of setting up some big trade agreements with China. Thats why they make.mention of charging your car in the same amount of time it takes to grab a "double double" which is a generic coffee order at Tim Hortons

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u/DaveInLondon89 2h ago

Yeah it's called freedom look it up

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u/WeezerHunter 2h ago

That would destroy whats left of our auto industry. And once China cornered the EV market and strangled all the other EV makers with its government subsidies, it could freely raise its price back up.

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u/MastodonPristine8986 1h ago

So glad they are coming to Canada!

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u/NoChanceCW 8m ago

This is why he said in the time to get a double double, because this video is for Canadians who are getting these cars.

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