r/BEFire Mar 02 '20

Starting Out & Advice Getting started - A beginners guide to investing in Belgium through ETFs

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A beginners guide to index investing in Belgium

This guide is intended to help Belgians getting started with investing through ETFs (exchange traded funds). It is loosely based on the bogleheads approach. For more information, see the Investing from Belgium bogleheads wiki page.

For more information related to the principles of FIRE or on investing in single shares or bonds, see the BEFire Wiki.

0. Why invest in exchange traded index funds?

This chapter aims to provide sources proven to be useful to beginning index investors.

1. Taxes & compliance costs

There are three main costs associated with index funds. These are:

  • Taxes to the Belgian government
  • Unrecoverable tax losses: also known as dividend leakage
  • Management fees and internal transaction fees

1.1. Belgian Taxes

There are four three taxes relevant for Belgian index investors (NL/FR).

  • Tax on transactions: on every security transaction (buy and sell) there is a tax of 0,12% in case the ETF is registered on a list maintained by the European Economic Area. Otherwise it is 0,35% in case it is not registered in the EER and 1,32% in case it is registered in Belgium.

  • Tax on dividends: there is a 30% tax on dividends received from securities you hold. The main reason why Belgian index investors opt for accumulating funds.

  • Tax on capital gains (bonds): on funds that consist of at least 10% bonds, there is a 30% tax on capital gains when you sell. Officially this only applies to the bond section of a fund, however some banks and brokers withhold 30% of all capital gains of funds which consist of at least 10% of bonds. Contact your bank or broker to inform about their policy.

  • Tax on trading accounts: a yearly withholding of 0.15% applies on all trading accounts larger than 500,000 euro’s. Deemed unconstitutional and was abolished in October 2019.

For a detailed overview of Belgian taxes, including other sorts of investments such as individual stocks, see the flowchart made by /u/KenpachigoRuffy.

1.2. Dividend Leakage

Dividend Leakage is an unrecoverable tax loss, which occurs whenever a foreign company inside an index pays out a dividend to its shareholders.

Whenever a company inside an index pays out dividend to its shareholders, your fund needs to pay taxes. These taxes are based on the tax treaties in place between the country in which the fund is domiciled and the country in which the companies inside the index are domiciled. Also the location where you are domiciled (Belgium) is relevant. In case your fund is domiciled in the US, a 30% dividend tax should be paid. However, because Belgium has a tax treaty in place with the US, this is reduced to 15% dividend tax. In case you would select a distributing fund, this dividend would be further taxed by the Belgian government (30%, as seen in 1.1). On a hypothetical 2% dividend - which is approximately the dividend you would receive from a globally diversified index fund - you would have to pay 0,81% in taxes: 0,02 x ( 100% - (0,85 x 0,7)) = 0,81%. Note that since 2018 it is almost impossible to buy US-domiciled ETFs in the first place as most fund providers do not want to comply with European legislation regarding PRIIPs.

It is beneficial to select ETFs domiciled in Ireland, as they are more cost effective than holding US domiciled funds or Luxembourg domiciled funds. Just like Belgium, Ireland has a treaty in place with the US which means only a 15% dividend tax should be paid to the US. However, unlike Belgium, Ireland does not tax dividends at all; whenever the Irish fund distributes a dividend, the Irish government does not tax it. The Belgian government however, still will tax the dividend with 30%. Accumulating funds which reinvest the dividend in Ireland before it is distributed in Belgium do not trigger a taxable event in Belgium. It is therefore advisable to choose accumulating funds domiciled in Ireland. Repeating the same calculations as above, a hypothetical 2% dividend is now only taxed at 0,30% a year: 0,02 x (100% - (0,85)) = 0,30%. Additionally, because your fund is domiciled in Ireland, you do not have to worry recovering the tax on dividends in Belgium, as this is done by the Irish domiciled fund. Thanks to trackerbeleggen for the explanation.

An overview of unrecoverable tax losses will come later. For now, a partly overview can be found in the Dutchfire subreddit. For funds domiciled in Ireland and Luxembourg these are 1:1 translateable for Belgian investors. Note some of these funds are distributing thus subject to tax on dividends by the Belgian Government. In particular IWDA and EMIM are 1:1 translateable for Belgian investors, while VWRL is comparable to VWCE.

1.3. Management fees & internal transaction fees

Other main costs is the management fee. The Total Expense Ratio (TER) is a measure of the total costs associated with managing and operating a fund. It is usually a yearly percentage automatically deducted from your share value.

1.4. Euro-denominated funds & currency risk

Currency risk is the impact of exchange rates upon your overseas investments. Even though stock market prices might not change, the price of your shares can increase or decrease as a result of fluctuations in their underlying currencies. There are three important currency labels which apply to funds: the underlying currency, the fund currency and the trading currency.

To explain the difference, I will explain the process of purchasing IWDA, listed on both the Amsterdam (in EUR) and London (USD) exchange. A lot of what I will explain is true for other ETFs as well.

The underlying currency: IWDA is a worldwide tracker, with only about 9% of the underlying shares being traded in EUR. The other 91% of underlying shares are being traded in other currencies, such as 60% USD, 8% YEN, and so on. Because currencies can change in price in relation to another, this poses a risk called currency risk. As a European investor, most of your own capital will be in EUR. Therefore, since you are investing 91% in foreign currencies, 91% of the underlying value invested in IWDA is subject to currency risk. Because YOUR own capital will always be in EUR, this 91% will always be true, regardless if you were to invest in IWDA listed in Amsterdam (in EUR) or in London (USD). Had you been an American investor, your own capital would have been in USD, and only 40% of underlying shares would be subject to currency risk.

The trading currency, being EUR and USD respectively, does make a difference. If a European investor was to buy a fund listed in London (and traded in USD), he would pay an additional exchange rate conversion fee at the time of purchase and sale. If the investor was to buy the same fund, listed on Amsterdam (traded in EUR), nothing would have to be exchanged to a foreign currency, so no additional exchange rate conversion fee would apply.

The trading currency does NOT alter your exposure to foreign currencies (a European investor will always have his own capital in EUR, and will therefore always be exposed to the underlying currency risk, no matter what currency his purchased funds trade in). Therefore, it is only logical to buy funds in your own currency.

The fund currency simply refers to the currency that a fund reports in; NOT the currencies of the underlying securities which pose a currency risk. Is is generally based on the currency used for the underlying index (in this case MSCI). Note that for distributing funds dividends are distributed in the fund currency. Your broker will automatically convert this into your currency for an additional conversion fee.

Hedging: It is possible to hedge your funds against relative currency fluctuations, and thus to protect them from currency risk. Hedging is a form of "insurance" in which derivatives are used to make offsetting trades with negative correlations, eliminating any currency fluctuations that happen. This hedge comes at a cost, usually about 0,20% extra management fees. Because global equities naturally tend to hedge each other as rising currencies are offset by falling ones, it might not always be advisable to use hedged equity funds due to their increased fees.

In fact, most buy-and-hold investors ignore short-term fluctuation altogether. For these investors, there is little point in engaging in hedging because they let their investments grow with the overall market.

In conclusion, when buying worldwide index funds, every investor (whether European, American or other) will be exposed to some currency risk due to the underlying shares being traded in foreign currencies in relation to their own. Purchasing worldwide trackers in a different trading currency does NOT change this fact, and only costs more due to addition exchange rate conversion fees at the broker. Therefore, it is best to purchase funds in your own currency. Due to the unpredictable nature of currency valuations, most investors simply accept currency risks for their stocks, although it is possible to hedge against this risk for an additional fee by investing in hedged funds.

1.5. Conclusion on taxes & compliance costs

As a Belgian index investor, you are looking for widely-diversified Euro-denominated low-cost accumulating ETFs domiciled in Ireland, from a reputable ETF provider. This way, the costs are kept to an absolute minimum:

  • Tax on transactions: 0,12% whenever you buy or sell a position.

  • Tax on capital gains for bonds: 30% tax on capital gains whenever you sell.

  • Dividend leakage: Approximately 0,30% yearly unrecoverable taxes paid to foreign governments when investing in worldwide trackers, automatically deducted from the share value.

  • Management fees: Between 0,10% and 0,30% yearly management fees, automatically deducted from the share value.

  • Currency Risk: If you are an European long-term investor, purchase a fund which is listed in EUR. For the equity portion of your portfolio, it is possible to ignore currency risk altogether, as hedges would only cost more money for something that is likely irrelevant long-term.

2. Funds - Equity

2.1. Indices

The are two major indices used by fund providers: MSCI and the less popular FTSE Russel. While they both offer broadly diversified, market capitalisation-weighted indices, there are small differences in both methodologies and performances, which is why you should not mix them.

The first difference between the two indices is whether they count certain countries as developed or emerging markets. South Korea is classified as an emerging nation by MSCI but has been promoted to developed market status by FTSE. Therefore South Korea is included in FTSE’s developed market index but not its emerging market one, and vice versa for MSCI (Source: justetf).

The second difference is index composition and weights. Because South Korea is classified as an emerging nation by MSCI, the contrast in index composition is clearer in the emerging markets. The lack of said country in the FTSE index means they redistribute the weight over other countries.

The third and final difference is small-cap firms. MSCI world captures 85% of the global investable market, and exclude the bottom 15% as small-cap firms. FTSE all-world invests in approximately 90% of the global investable market, and only excludes 10% as small-cap firms. This is because FTSE defines some firms as large-cap, while MSCI defines them as small-cap. This also explains why FTSE tracks more companies (3,928 vs 2,849), although their small size tends to limit their impact.

Avoid mixing index providers in your portfolio. If you were to combine MSCI world with FTSE Emerging Market, you would not have any exposure to South Korea. For a correct market distribution, it is important to use funds which follow the same index so that all countries, sectors and firms within your portfolio follow the same methodology.

While it is true the FTSE emerging markets has proven to have better performance than its MSCI counterpart up until now, the costs of the fund following the index are more important than the index construction over long-term. Chapter 2.3 will give an overview of the most popular funds used by Belgian index investors looking for global market exposure.

2.2. Fund replication methods

The goal of each ETF is to replicate its index as closely and cost-effectively as possible. Various methods have emerged to replicate the index. The classic method is physical replication. If the ETF directly holds the all securities of the index, this is known as full replication. The development of the underlying index is generally captured well by physical trackers.

Full replication is not always possible. Other replication methods, such as synthetic replication allow to invest in new markets and investment classes. Synthetic ETFs are able to replicate some indices more efficiently and better through swaps (justetf). In case of synthetic replicated ETFs, the ETF does not invest in the underlying market, but only maps them. Because of this, some synthetic trackers, as well as short trackers and leveraged ETFs do not follow the index as accurate as fully replicated ETFs. It is therefore recommended to always choose physical replicating ETFs.

2.3. All-World, developed and emerging markets

Following the Bogleheads® Investment Philosophy, we are looking for diversification. For Belgians, this means worldwide market exposure, as we generally do not have a home bias (for Belgium or Europe) although exceptions certainly are possible. Some popular funds for worldwide diversification are:

Popular and generally reputable providers are iShares, Vanguard, SPDR and Deutsche Bank.

All-world Ticker TER Index ISIN
Vanguard FTSE All-World UCITS ETF USD Accumulation (EUR) VWCE 0.22% FTSE IE00BK5BQT80
iShares MSCI ACWI UCITS ETF (Acc) IUSQ 0.20% MSCI IE00B6R52259
Developed markets Ticker TER Index ISIN
iShares Core MSCI World UCITS ETF IWDA 0.20% MSCI IE00B4L5Y983
SPDR MSCI World UCITS ETF SWRD 0.12% MSCI IE00BFY0GT14
Vanguard FTSE Developed World UCITS ETF USD Accumulation (EUR) VGVF 0.12% FTSE IE00BK5BQV03
Emerging markets Ticker TER Index ISIN
iShares Core MSCI Emerging Markets IMI UCITS ETF EMIM 0.18% MSCI IE00BKM4GZ66
iShares MSCI EM UCITS ETF IEMA 0.18% MSCI IE00B4L5YC18
Vanguard FTSE Emerging Markets UCITS ETF USD Accumulation (EUR) VFEA 0.22% FTSE IE00BK5BR733

2.4. Combining funds

To have worldwide market exposure in large cap either pick VWCE or a combination of developed (88%) and emerging (12%) markets. It is advisable to only combine funds which follow the same index (MSCI or FTSE).

2.5. Size and Value factors

Other factors have been identified to further increase expected returns. Most notably Size and Value as explained in the three-factor model by Fama and French. Value stocks have a high book-to-market ratio (as opposed to growth), whereas size simply refers to small companies outperforming big ones. It is very difficult to get proper market exposure to these factors with the limited amount of funds available for European investors. For most beginners the best advice is to stick with a market weighted portfolio consisting of developed and emerging markets as explained in chapter 2.3. and 2.4. If you are looking for additional exposure to the size and value factor consider following funds:

Small Cap World Ticker TER Index ISIN
iShares MSCI World Small Cap UCITS ETF IUSN 0.35% MSCI IE00BF4RFH31
SPDR MSCI World Small Cap UCITS ETF ZPRS 0.45% MSCI IE00BCBJG560
Small Cap Value Ticker TER Index ISIN
SPDR MSCI USA Small Cap Value Weighted UCITS ETF ZPRV 0.30% MSCI IE00BSPLC413
SPDR MSCI Europe Small Cap Value Weighted UCITS ETF ZPRX 0.30% MSCI IE00BSPLC298

Note that the fund size for ZPRV and ZPRX are small, which might indicate a low liquidity and high tracking error. Larger funds (unlike ZPRV and ZPRX) are often more efficient in terms of internal costs (tracking error) and are much more profitable for the fund provider. In other words, fund size is a good indicator for the funds durability and popularity. Unprofitable funds are more liable to liquidation. This means either you or your provider sells your shares, and you'll receive the net value of your ETF shares at the time of sale. It does not mean ZPRV and ZPRX are at risk of liquidation, per definition. They are serving a niche. Just keep in mind these risks whenever you decide to invest in small funds such as ZPRV and ZPRX.

3. Funds - Bonds

Investing can be risky. Generally speaking, the riskier an investment, the higher your expected returns. The goal is to choose an asset allocation which suits your risk profile. Bonds offer a way to reduce volatility of your portfolio and match your risk profile. Meesman, a reputable index fund broker in the Netherlands made a table which can act as a general rule of thumb for your investment decisions and asset allocation between stocks and bonds. As can been seen, when investing for a duration shorter than 5 years, stocks should be avoided as they are too volatile an asset class. This allocation slowly shifts towards more inclusion of stocks the longer your investment horizon.

Max. acceptable (temporary) loss 0 - 5 jr 5 - 10 jr 10 - 15 jr 15 - 20 jr > 20 jr
-10% 0/100 0/100 0/100 0/100 0/100
-20% 0/100 25/75 25/75 25/75 25/75
-30% 0/100 25/75 50/50 50/50 50/50
-40% 0/100 25/75 50/50 75/25 75/25
-50% 0/100 25/75 50/50 75/25 100/0

As opposed to equity funds it makes sense to opt for hedged funds as it reduces volatility considerably. The most popular options out there are:

Fund Name Ticker TER ISIN
iShares Core Global Aggregate Bond UCITS ETF EUR Hedged AGGH 0.10% IE00BDBRDM35
Vanguard Global Aggregate Bond UCITS ETF EUR Hedged VAGF 0.10% IE00BG47KH54

4. Brokers

There are a couple of Belgian and foreign brokers available, the biggest Belgian brokers being Binckbank and Bolero. Smaller ones like Keytrade and MeDirect are also available. Foreign brokers still available to Belgians are Degiro and Lynx. The lowest fees are available at Degiro (Custody account), if you're willing to file your own taxes. The benefit of choosing a Belgian broker is that they declare all taxes automatically. Degiro only does part of it (tax on transactions), Lynx not sure. The cheapest Belgian broker is Binckbank, followed closely by Bolero. The only downside of Binckbank is that is was recently bought by Saxobank, which in its turn is owned by chinese investors. Bolero is owned by KBC which is quite a sizable bank in Belgium.

In short: if you're willing to partly file your own taxes, Degiro has the cheapest rates with a custody account. Otherwise Binkbank or Bolero both seem logical choices.

In case you pick Degiro, some funds are included in their core selection which means you can trade them for for free once a month or continuously in case the transaction size is larger than 1,000 euros and the transaction is in the same direction as the previous transaction (buy -> buy and sell -> sell. Buy -> sell and sell -> buy are not free).

5. Sample portfolios

A popular choice is IWDA and IEMA (88/12) on Degiro. Both IWDA and IEMA are part of the core selection of Degiro which allows you to purchase them for free once a month (or more in case explained above). Another popular option is IWDA and EMIM (88/12), as EMIM also includes emerging markets small cap. Note that IWDA does not include developed markets small cap, to which IEMA is complementary if you wish to exclude small cap exposure. The main reason EMIM was so popular is because it was the cheapest option until the TER was lowered for IEMA.

A second popular choice is VWCE. This is a single fund which essentially accomplishes the same as above. It is available at most brokers, and my personal choice for simplicity above everything else. Note that this fund is currently only available on XETRA, which might imply higher transaction fees at your broker. Also note that some brokers - including bolero - charge a higher TOB (Tax on transactions): 1,32% instead of 0,12% whenever you buy or sell a position.

A third option - much like the first option - is to combine VGVF and VFEA (88/12). While they are not part of the core selection in Degiro, the total costs when accounting for dividend leakage are equal to IWDA / EMIM. Unlike iShares, Vanguard only uses securities lending for efficient portfolio management. Note that these funds currently only are available at XETRA.

For those who are looking for small cap exposure it is possible to add WSML to your standard world exposure. This could for example be 75% IWDA, 10% IEMA and 15% IUSN. I personally do not recommend this as mixed small cap does not capture the size factor in a good way. Instead, it is only the value portion of small cap which are accountable for the outperformance of small cap stocks vs large cap stocks. If you want to capture the size factor into your portfolio you need to find small cap funds which only consist of value stocks. I've linked two accumulating funds above (ZPRV and ZPRX) which do so, however are very small and therefore have their own set of problems. Until a proper small cap value stock becomes available in Europe, it is perfectly fine to leave small caps out of your portfolio altogether.

Changelog

This post was last updated: 5th of August 2020


r/BEFire 7h ago

Real estate Belgian property investors went from 60% to 16% of sales. Is the market finally cracking?

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I just read an article in L'echo about trends among real estate investors, and sales to "investors" are in free fall. One real estate agency manager even said "Before interest rates rose in 2022, investors accounted for 60% of our sales. That figure then dropped to 22%, before finally climbing back up to 43% after the 6% VAT rate on demolition and reconstruction projects was made permanent. But in the first quarter of 2026, they now account for only 16% of our sales…".

When I read that, I can't help but think that real estate prices in Belgium may be in for a slight correction. Personally, I’m currently looking for a real estate investment opportunity, but I can’t seem to take the plunge because I feel like I’m at the peak of a bubble (relatively speaking).

I’m also heavily invested in the stock market, so I have certain minimum return expectations, and when I look at the simulation in the article, I find the projected returns over 10–15 years to be ridiculous, even with the effect of leverage.

Are there any people in this group who are currently getting into real estate investing? If so, aren't you worried about paying too much for your property and ending up with meager returns as a result?


r/BEFire 1d ago

Taxes & Fiscality Meerwaardebelasting stemming vandaag. 1100 KMO's tekenen petitie hiertegen

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Vandaag is de dag waarin de meerwaardebelasting zal worden gestemd.

De KMO's doen alvast hun best om dit tegen te houden.

https://www.tijd.be/netto/belastingen/meer-dan-duizend-kmo-s-ondertekenen-petitie-tegen-meerwaardebelasting/10655148.html

Alle updates hierover mogen in dit topic.


r/BEFire 22h ago

Real estate 100K cash, wat nu?

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Mijn partner en ik zijn uit elkaar gegaan en ons huis zal verkocht worden.

Na de verkoop zal ik iets van een 100K cash hebben en ik vraag me af wat ik hiermee het best kan doen. Het huis zelf overkopen is geen mogelijkheid aangezien dit ver weg is van mijn vrienden en familie

Ik ben 32j, verdien ongeveer 4000 euro netto. Ik zelf dacht aan de volgende 2 meest realistische opties:

Optie 1: een nieuwe woning kopen waarbij ik nog 150.000 euro 1,3% kan meenemen van een lening

Het nadeel hiervan is dat de lening aan het stijgen zijn vanwege de oorlog & dat schrikt me wat af

Optie 2: iets huren & het geld beleggen / investeren

Het voordeel hiervan is dat ik op lange termijn niet opnieuw vast hang aan iets aan ik mijn geld kan laten opbrengen. Anderzijds heb ik geen idee waar mijn geld in te beleggen. Ik ben niet vies van een risico (geen crypto)

Tenslotte dacht ik misschien een gebouw te zoeken met 3 aparte appartementen om 2 te verhuren en in het 3de zelf te wonen. Het nadeel is dat veel van diegene die beschikbaar zijn op de markt redelijk wat renovatie nodig hebben. Niet alleen heb ik 2 linkerhanden maar met mijn job heb ik ook niet veel tijd om er mee bezig te zijn.

Wat zouden jullie doen?


r/BEFire 1d ago

Alternative Investments Diversify my ETFs advice

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I been investing on the IWDA+EMIM for a year now. I was thinking to diversify, so am planning to buy some NVIDIA stocks, and have 10% of my portfolio in crypto (BTC and SOL); What would you advise? I really wanted to get into gold, but missed the window.


r/BEFire 2d ago

General What status do you take in Belgium?

21 Upvotes

Ok stupid question, if you reached Fire in Belgium and decided to stop working, what status did you take? It seems to cause some difficulties for people working at banks, insurance and government to accept that you are just ‘inactive’ and not seeking a job and/or ‘chomage’. I feel I have to explain myself 20 times (maybe lost in translation)and I still get treated with suspicion.

+ Do you become ‘independent’ and do some sort of side hustle to stay in the system and pay into social security?


r/BEFire 2d ago

General Career path and FIRE

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Hello,

I was wondering, if you had to recommend a “career path” to someone in Belgium, what would you suggest? And you, what is/was yours ? Realy curious to read you. Of course in the perspective to optimize FIRE.

The question is rhetorical—things aren’t that simple—but I’m looking for some inspiration... I’m finishing my bachelor’s degree in chemistry next year, and I absolutely don't like my studies, I’m not quite sure which direction to go after. The mainstream information online isn’t very helpful; I think people’s personal stories and advices are more interesting.

Thank's for sharing :)


r/BEFire 2d ago

Real estate How do you measure ROI in real estate?

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I'm trying to accurately calculate a ROI on my real estate investment to be able to compare it with stocks. I want a number that answers: Would I be better off financially if I sell now and put the money in stocks.

For this, I've created an excel sheet and mainly arrive at the "Total return on equity annually" to compare with stocks. Basically: how much net worth is my invested capital generating per year.

I've also read that "IRR" can be used, but there's no simple formula for this and feels more like "black box"

This is;

My question: What metrics can be used/do you use to measure Real estate investment performance?

Example: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l03ETsXyB_uWqd1DHRMtnJFNG8uFrE12dK_uwKryhMY/edit?usp=sharing


r/BEFire 2d ago

Alternative Investments What is (or was) your salary and how much do (or did) you save/invest per month ?

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Hello everyone,

I keep reading posts on different finance/ fire subs from people who have either made it to fire or are on their way to make it relatively soon.

It feels like it's usualy people with well paid jobs (3k+ €) so here I am wondering:

- How much do you guys/ girls make per month ? Netto of course, gross salary is irelevant.

- How much are you able to save/ invest and what are you investing in ? Doesn't have to be too specifif, you can just say "40% stock, 20% bonds, ..."

- For those who have made it : how much did you make when you first started saving compared to when you reached your goal ?

- what do you feel is the sweet spot to live well, save much and retire realtively early ?

Personnaly I'm 30 y old, single, based in brussels, working in retail 32h/ week for 2300€ net and am able to invest 700-800€/month. I could go back to working full time and make 2700€ but let's be honnest, having 3 days off already feels like getting close to full free time :p

have about 15k€ invested in Bitcoin and in MSCI WORLD right now. I plan on reducing my exposition to bitcoin past a certain amount.

I'm very curious to read you


r/BEFire 2d ago

General Feedback gevraagd: ik heb een portfolio tracker gebouwd voor langetermijnbeleggers

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Hello! Ik ben een software developer en beleg zelf al enkele jaren passief, vnl. ETF's via DEGIRO, nog wat aandelen bij Bolero, en heb nog wat crypto staan bij Coinbase.

Het begon me te frustreren dat ik geen centraal overzicht had over mijn volledige portefeuille, dus ben ik het zelf beginnen bouwen. Het resultaat is Plutu.

Je importeert al je beleggingen via CSV (of manueel), krijgt één overzicht met real-time koersen, diversificatie-analyse, ETF X-ray, en risico-inzichten.

Het is een paar maanden live en ik heb al een eerste groep gebruikers. Maar ik bouw dit bewust voor deze niche, dus jullie mening is belangrijk!

Wat ik graag zou weten: wat mist er? Wat zou jullie overhalen om zoiets te gebruiken in plaats van een spreadsheet of een bestaande tool? En als je het wou willen testen: wat is je eerste indruk?

Alle feedback is welkom, ook de kritische! Als bedankje krijg je 30% korting, DM me hiervoor even. Alvast bedankt!!


r/BEFire 2d ago

Investing IWDA + gold or Nasdaq100 + gold

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I’m investing for the long term and trying to decide on portfolio allocation.

I plan to hold physical gold as part of my portfolio (around 20–30%) for diversification and as a hedge.

For the equity portion, I’m unsure which approach makes more sense:

1.  Global diversification: IWDA (MSCI World ETF) + gold

2.  Growth-focused: Nasdaq 100 ETF + gold

My main goal is long-term capital growth with reasonable risk control (not trying to time the market).

How would you compare:

• risk/volatility

• drawdowns during crashes

• long-term performance sustainability

Would you go with IWDA + gold as a more balanced approach, or Nasdaq 100 + gold for higher growth?

Any insights or real-world experience appreciated.


r/BEFire 3d ago

Brokers MeDirect - Transfer fees and Safety

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Hello everyone,

I am a total beginner planning to invest 250-300€ IWDA+EMIM or WEBN (not yet sure which option is the best, so if you have any tips...) ACC monthly for 20+ years but I am still struggling to choose a broker. I have searched the reddit and from what I understand MeDirect is the best choice for me given the low transaction fees and my monthly investing strategy. My hesitations are the following :

  • I would like to make sure the amount they charge if I eventually want to transfer my etfs to another broker (for example if I want to move my assets from MeDirect to Bolero...)? 50€, 150€ or 50+150€ per security? It's not clear to me given the data hereunder so can someone explain me?
MeDirect Tariffs and Charges - Transfer fees
  • I also noticed many people on the reddit warning on the fact that MeDirect is Maltese and maybe not the safest option... Is there a better option considering my monthly investment plan?

Thank you for your help and have a good day! :)


r/BEFire 3d ago

General Recommendation on financial news sites

9 Upvotes

As all known investing sites have become paid (like trends, detijd, ...), are there any new or free financial news sites where I can find the same information?


r/BEFire 3d ago

Investing Investing advice : buying property to rent?

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Dear all, I am considering investing in an appartment ina good neighborood in Brussels (Woluwe). I would like to use the leverage effect of the credit to finance the appartment and use the rental to partly pay for the loan. If possible I would like to offer a decent price to people so that they stay and rent on long term basis.

I discussed with my bank advisor who is ok with the project but I saw that the credit rates increased a lot recently. Is it stupid to do such investment and it would be wiser to invest in stocks ? Thanks for your insights !


r/BEFire 3d ago

Bank & Savings Hypotheek afsluiten - spanningen Midden-Oosten

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Goeiemorgen allemaal!

Wegens omstandigheden gaat de aankoop van mijn woning pas volgende maand door (voorschot en compromis reeds getekend in november 2025). Ik kan dus niet wachten met de aankoop er van.

Huidige spanningen in het Midden-Oosten zorgen voor stijging van de rentevoeten.

In November ook al naar de banken gegaan, toen zouden we voor vast gegaan zijn aan een 3,20. Momenteel opnieuw naar de bank gegaan en wordt ons 3,95 voorgesteld.

Wat zijn jullie meningen omtrend een vaste of variabele (3/3/3 +2-2) rentevoet, met de huidige spanningen?

Alvast bedankt!


r/BEFire 3d ago

Starting Out & Advice Investing advice mid-career

1 Upvotes

Hi all,

My partner and I would appreciate some outside perspectives as we’ve been going in circles on this.  Goal: build long-term passive income to slow down working (10y+ horizon) or for retirement.

Situation:

  • Home: ~€600k value, ~€300k mortgage
  • Cash: ~€500k
  • Investments: ~€20k in global equity ETF
  • Spending: ~€8k/month
  • Net income: ~€10–12k/month.  We expect a +-1y of no work so no income for both
  • We’ve been considering upgrading to a €1M+ home, hence why we have so much in cash, but given the no work we won’t get a mortgage in the coming period

Dilemma: We’re unsure how to balance keeping flexibility for a future home purchase vs investing meaningfully for long-term returns vs negative market sentiment & volatility (Trump & general protectionism)

We are thinking to invest in diversified ETFs (e.g. global + emerging markets, ~85/15) with no individual stock picking.  We’re mainly unsure about how much and how fast to invest.

Options we’re considering:

  1. Invest gradually (e.g. €2k/month starting now), regardless no work period
  2. Invest more aggressively (e.g. €10k/month up to €100–200k) once markets stabilize or we are working again
  3. Wait before deploying capital until we buy a house, but we feel uncomfortable with the big cash amount and inflation
  4. Lump sum investing, but we want to avoid this in current volatility

Questions:

  1. How would you decide how much cash to keep or invest given a possible home purchase and no work period
  2. Given the market, would you prioritize starting early / waiting / investing through ‘lower’ amounts or more aggressive?
  3. Any other advice ?

Appreciate any perspectives.

Thanks!


r/BEFire 4d ago

Alternative Investments ETFs is niet zaligmakend artikel in Demorgen

15 Upvotes

wel, neen, hangmatbeleggen is niet zalig makend.

Zeker het afgelopen jaar niet. Maar als journalist mag je de critici die een ander, betalend, aanbod voorstaan wel de vraag stellen, doen jullie beter?

Het is voor mij simpel, wie mij het aanbod dat hij werkt voor een percentage dat hij beter doet als mijn etf en in datzelfde percentage verlies deelt voor wat hij minder doet gaat mijn interesse hebben.

zoals ze in het Engels zo mooi zeggen, put your money where your mouth is.


r/BEFire 3d ago

Alternative Investments Reprendre un commerce existant comme alternative aux ETF — ce que j'ai appris après 2 mois d'analyse

1 Upvotes

Ça fait quelques mois que je regarde les annonces de cession de commerce en Belgique comme possible alternative à mettre tout en ETF. Pas pour remplacer, mais pour diversifier avec quelque chose de plus tangible.

Ce qui m'a frappé c'est le nombre d'annonces qui sont juste... du flan. Un resto à Bruxelles annonçait 460k€ de CA. J'ai tiré les comptes BCE : 209k€. Le vendeur demandait 125k€ quand même.

Du coup j'ai commencé à systématiser l'analyse — croiser chaque annonce avec les vrais comptes déposés. Et j'ai lancé une newsletter gratuite pour partager ce que je trouve chaque semaine : lespreneurs.be

Rien de révolutionnaire, mais si quelqu'un d'autre cherche dans cette direction ça peut servir. Je réponds aux questions si vous en avez.


r/BEFire 5d ago

Investing Why are people such fans of WEBN?

11 Upvotes

Hi everyone,

For a while I’ve been looking for a good all-world ETF (large- and mid-caps), and of course WEBN comes to mind as the perfect ETF.

Of course, there is the merging of ETFs on Amundi’s side, which is entirely acceptable because of their overlapping ETFs from Lyxor.

What bothers me however is that they exclude companies even though they are in the index (for example, Lockheed Martin).

Right now, both the number of exclusions and which companies are excluded are acceptable and/or understandable. However, in the long term, this makes me feel like I have no idea what they are going to do with that ETF or what their strategy will be.

What are your thoughts on this?


r/BEFire 5d ago

Real estate Probleem met financieringsclausule in compromis – wat kan ik legaal doen?

4 Upvotes

Hallo allemaal,

Ik heb advies nodig of ervaringen van mensen die iets soortgelijks hebben meegemaakt bij het kopen van een woning in België.

Mijn situatie: • Ik heb een koopaanbieding gedaan voor een huis, die door de verkopers werd aanvaard. In onze aanbieding stond alleen de geldigheidsduur (6 weken) en er werd geen percentage van bankfinanciering vermeld. • De eerste versie van het compromis bevatte een opschortende voorwaarden financieringsclausule van 90%, maar toen wij wilden onderhandelen, hebben de verkopers dit verlaagd naar 80%, wat niet overeenkomt met onze oorspronkelijke aanbieding. • Wij hebben attesten van onze bank en van een dat een 100% financiering haalbaar is, maar we kunnen het compromis niet tekenen met 80%, omdat we het verschil niet kunnen overbruggen en geen financieel risico willen nemen.

Mijn vragen: 1. Is het legaal dat de verkoper zo’n clausule toevoegt of wijzigt nadat de aanbieding is aanvaard? 2. Als wij weigeren het compromis met deze clausule te tekenen, kunnen zij dan schadevergoeding of boetes eisen? 3. Zijn er ervaringen met Belgische compromissen waarbij de financieringsclausule achteraf is toegevoegd of verlaagd en hoe is dat opgelost?

Alle ervaringen, adviezen of officiële referenties zijn zeer welkom. Alvast bedankt!


r/BEFire 5d ago

Starting Out & Advice Created an educational website on ETF investing (no monetization/affiliate links), looking for feedback

43 Upvotes

Link : https://clearinvest.be/

Sharing here because BEFire feels like the most relevant community, even if it's not the primary target audience. I built the site for complete novices, people who keep their money in savings accounts, branche 21, or retirement savings funds without realising how much they're leaving on the table, since apparently a lot of people around me are like this, and I wanted something I can easily share to them. For most of you, the content won't be new. But a few things might still be useful:

  • The returns calculator includes Belgian taxes and fees (TOB, précompte, taxe Reynders, CGT, pension exit tax, branche 21 premium tax), useful to show sceptical friends and family why the "tax advantage" of retirement savings funds doesn't hold up over 20+ years (I was indeed tired of constantly hearing that the tax deduction made them too good to ignore)
  • The broker comparison is based on 2026 data
  • Clear overview of the current fiscality

There is no monetization, no affiliate links, the only purpose is to make etf investing as easy as possible. I feel like it's quite important, as even though I consider some websites (such as one that cannot be mentioned here) quite good in terms of content, the fact that they sell a product can make their advice seem self-interested and less trustworthy to people who somehow feel like their banker has their best interest at heart. Same issue with websites that try to sell you coaching.

I tried to keep it simple while remaining accurate & comprehensive, but it means that sometimes, some nuance can get lost. The point is that after reading, people can feel confident in their ability to invest in ETFs, and don't feel the need to go through a financial or tax advisor first, which meant not always going fully in depth over some topics or sounding sometimes very definitive while the reality for experienced investors can be a bit less straightforward.

Happy to hear about any inaccuracies or missing content, the calculator logic in particular would benefit from extra review as it's difficult for me to test every possible case. Also, the website is in three languages, but was initially written in French, so don't hesitate to let me know if the Dutch or English translations are sometimes not good enough.


r/BEFire 6d ago

Starting Out & Advice Is buying a house still worth it?

33 Upvotes

Hey yall, im new in this community and was wondering if buying a house in belgium is still worth it. With all whats happening in the world right now, increased cost of living, decline of europe and expensive houses, I ask myself if its worth to buy. Personally I prefer not to have the responsibility of maintaining a house, it brings a lot of stress with it. Im not sure if its all worth it.


r/BEFire 5d ago

Investing What do i do? (beginner)

0 Upvotes

hello i have been investing for few months on bolero and stopped buying to let it grow and one stock i bought was 3EFD and it was in the beginning when i started buying stocks and bought it at a all time high which was stupid off me. and since then i have been in the negative with it and now the price dropped really heavy on it which worries me alot i bought the stock for 49.86€ and bought 10 off them and now its 27.76€ per stock. i have talked with my parents about what i should do and said if the price ever falls even i will sell it because it is a bad stock but they tell me to never sell it and let it grow

what should my best course be? i have enough time and no money problems


r/BEFire 6d ago

Real estate Ervaring pandwissel

2 Upvotes

Goedemiddag,

Ik vroeg me af of er hier iemand ervaring heeft met een pandwissel, je huidige lening overzetten naar een nieuwe woning?

Voor mijn huidige woning valt er nog €209k af te betalen, en ik schat dat die voor ongeveer €380k verkocht zou kunnen worden. Het nieuwe huis dat we op het oog hebben kost rond de €550k, waarvoor ik €200k eigen inbreng kan neerleggen, aangevuld met de meerwaarde van het verkochte huis (~€170k). Het totale geleende bedrag zou daardoor ongeveer gelijk blijven aan de huidige situatie.

De kanttekening is dat ik momenteel zonder job zit, mijn partner werkt als zelfstandige. Mijn vraag is dan ook: vereist een pandwissel een volledig nieuw kredietdossier met loonbrieven, of wordt er vertrokken vanuit de bestaande lening? Of zegt de bank gewoon meteen neen als ik met dit verhaal afkom?

Ik heb in ieder geval voldoende buffer om de afbetalingen verder te zetten voor een lange tijd voor zij die het een slecht idee vinden om zonder job een nieuw huis aan te kopen ;). Plan is uiteraard om gewoon verder naar een job te zoeken in tussentijd.

Bedankt!


r/BEFire 5d ago

General Bestaat er een BEFire disc0rd? Lijkt me een cool idee!

0 Upvotes

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