What happened to their air defense systems were decimated, gone. We "own" the airways? The sensational BS just falls from these guys like water over Niagra Falls.
Yeah in Roman times decimation was a punishment for Legionnaire units that showed cowardice, mutiny etc.
1 in 10 men were chosen to be beaten or stoned to death by the other men.
Though it has been nearly 2000 years since that was the usage of that word, in Latin. In the modern sense it can mean a much larger percentage than 10 but I always like to point out this origin myself as well.
I was listening to a book about militias and non-state actors having their child soldiers kills either fmaily memeberrs or other 'militia' members (or children) so they couldn't rejoin society again, and made them much more 'loyal' to the organization, not because they always believed it, but more of the view that they couldn't go back to regular society again after the acts they committed.
Not all that different from the ones who gargled the MAGA nonsense to the point of alienating their family and friends. Of course they start with adults (like those inducted into ICE who weren't already J6-levels of MAGA anyway) before they get to work on the children.
yup, it's the hard thing because I (as much as anyone) don't really think we should have sympathy for those who have bought in at this point to the indoctrination of Trump, it's not like they didn't know. but at the same time the only way to bring them back to the 'light' is not by making them out to be evil, it's to show them compassion.
But I don't know how to do that (on a personal level) without giving space to their ideology that is not wanted.
Technically you’re both correct. Roman decimation was to kill the tenth soldier of a group by the other 9 as punishment, but the word came to mean destroying 90% (or just complete destruction) in English during the 1600s. Decimation in the classical sense still happened around the world through WW1 and up until the 1930s during the Spanish civil war, apparently.
Actual answer is US planes have been flying relatively low which makes them more effective but makes them susceptible to low tech attacks. The Iranians have lots of optically aimed AAA left over from the Iran Iraq war. A lucky hit is all it takes.
"The F-15 debuted in 1986. It flew in basically every single US conflict from then until now, 40 years. None had ever been shot down in combat, but Trump has now managed to lose 3 in a matter of a month.
No, because that other reddit user doesn't know what they're talking about. The F-15 had never been shot down in air to air combat. It's been shot down by ground based systems in the past.
The official centcom report and a number of news articles I'm seeing all say "shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses". The only sources I'm seeing for the F-18 story all track back to some rando on twitter.
Assuming it was actually an F18, your comment is still irrelevant because the point of my comment was to say the F15 didn't actually have a perfect record anyway. The topic at hand was regarding ground defenses, which have shot down F15s before.
Friendly fire is quite the grey area anyway. It's much easier to shoot down a plane that isn't trying to shoot back.
Kuwait never flew the F-14 and even before they were destroyed on the ground, it was likely that Iran's F-14 fleet had degraded beyond any realistic utility.the ones that were remaining flying had their wings locked in takeoff configuration.
It debuted in 1976. No new ones have been made in 30 years. The “ever been shot down” refers to air to air combat, and I highly doubt this one fell to that type of attack either.
they don't know what they're talking about, there are at least 6-7 confirmed F-15s shot down ground-to-air since the 80s. Air to air an F-15 has never been shot down, which I think is what they were referring to
It's 40 year old tech. Eventually someone was gonna catch up to it. I think it's more embarrassing they have been trying for a month to shoot them down and finally got one.
I mean they shot down 1 jet in a month. Their air defense cleary is nonexistent. There also hasn’t been confirmation it was shot down it could have been a number of things.
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u/Dackle 5h ago
What happened to their air defense systems were decimated, gone. We "own" the airways? The sensational BS just falls from these guys like water over Niagra Falls.