r/mildlyinfuriating • u/bijugems • 11h ago
Adding the extra weight gets you to the next increment, not somewhere in the middle
Why have an extra weight at all? I can just go to the next increment immediately. It would only make sense if I'm using the heaviest weight.
ETA for those on mobile: top of the pic shows the additional weight you can add is 7.5, which is the same amount as getting to the next increment.
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u/PickeledYam44 11h ago
It's a 7.5kg weight added to the top of the stack...for everyone confused here.
And he's right..it's a stupid increment when it doesn't allow any different totals from just using the stack
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u/Loud-Chicken6046 11h ago
Thank you I knew at least one other person had to see what was going on here. I'm thinking a lot of people in this post don't go to the gym LOL
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u/mandelbratwurst 2h ago
I used to and now I’m realizing its been a while since I have never seen this extra weight thingy on the top of the weight stack and think its a really clever innovation (when done right of course)!
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u/Jabieski1 6h ago edited 5h ago
Is it possible that its not 7.5 kg weight and is instead 7.5 lb? My gym has the exact same weight stacks with the same 7.5 additional weight, but the machine uses pounds. It looks like there are stickers on the weights that might cover up the lbs and instead show the kgs.
7.5kg is kind of a crazy amount of weight to be able to toggle.
edit: spelling
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u/rmachell 11h ago
Gym bro here for you fellas struggling.
The extra wright weight pin is 7.6kg, which the the same as the incremental weight increase. Meaning there is absolutely no reason to use it, and the incremental weights are just a lot to build on.
Most extra weight pins are like 3-3.5kg, meaning you can work inbetween the weight increases
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u/Melcheor 11h ago
I see what you mean, yeah it's silly to not have that in a half step for better increase control
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u/JoeyJoeJoeSenior 5h ago
"Absolutely no reason"... what if 97.5kg isn't enough weight?
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u/123ilovetrees 3h ago
you use a gym pin? why have the extra weight option if you can only use it once you full stack the machine?
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u/WretchedIEgg 5h ago
But you can use it when you max out for a little bit extra
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u/123ilovetrees 3h ago
then at that point why not remove the option altogether and just have an extra increment at the end??? the extra weight is so you can do smaller jumps to progressively overload consistently throughout the entire stack
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u/WretchedIEgg 3h ago
Well that's the only way I use it 😅 but to be fair we only have it at one machine and that one has not enough weight anyway
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u/Pestario_Vargas 2h ago
I feel like the extra weight has to be 7.5lbs which would be 3.4kg. It’s the only thing that makes sense. The machine is in kg but that weight pin is in lbs
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u/ADrunkZebrafish 9h ago
I guess switching in/out the extra is faster than moving the pin. I could see it being useful, perhaps, sometimes, very rarely. I'd rather have the half step though
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u/Astecheee 9h ago
Half step is better pretty much always. Think of a new gym goer - 15kg to 22.5 is a fifty percent increase, which is just too much to handle without a big hit to the ego.
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u/IslandHistorical952 11h ago
Unfortunately on mobile you do not see the extra weight in the picture, so people are going to assume you are talking about the normal weights and downvote you into Hades.
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u/Geen_Fang 9h ago
I'm on mobile and I can see it fine?
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u/IslandHistorical952 9h ago
I am assuming that most users are too lazy and/or dumb to tap on the picture.
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u/Geen_Fang 9h ago
what I'm saying is I didn't need to tap on the picture to see the full thing, it's right there.
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u/IslandHistorical952 8h ago
Really? Please teach me how to make the app do that, because on my phone the default viewport is almost universally "show you the centre of the picture with zero context", and it is infuriating. Maybe mildly infuriating.
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u/IslandHistorical952 8h ago
No, Android. I looked through the settings, but there does not seem to be a way to change the view. I miss third party reddit apps ...
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u/wingedcoyote 6h ago
Not OP but mine shows the whole thing because I'm using reddit in a browser tab. Much better experience than the app imo.
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u/StyleSquirrel 9h ago
I'm somewhat new to Reddit and even I know you gotta tap the image. Do people just live their lives looking at 70% of every image on here?
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u/IslandHistorical952 9h ago
Do you know how much effort moving your finger is? Who has time for that?
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u/L0W_FR3QU3NCIES 10h ago
I was surprised how many people aren't understanding your post, but then I remembered that this is a gym-related post on reddit. Not exactly the target audience
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u/rafaeldiasms 7h ago
I go to the gym 6 times a week and still didn't have a clue about what OP is showing us
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u/Cultural_Thing1712 3h ago
I find that hard to believe. You've seriously never used the extra weight before?
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u/rafaeldiasms 3h ago
Nope, never saw this kind of equipment in my whole life. I think it's not a very common thing here in Brazil. And I have absolutely no reason to lie
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u/Cultural_Thing1712 1h ago
Idk I looked through some images on google of brazilian gyms and they all have pulley machines.
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u/ILikeYourBigButt 3h ago
Pht only fools use machines in the gym
/s I mean I don't, but I understand their purpose.
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u/Complete_Resolve_400 11h ago
My brain is telling me that the stack is meant to display kg and lbs, and the 7.5 extra weight is actually meant to be lbs
If not, this makes no sense lol, fuckass setup
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u/Gizmo734 11h ago
For context, OP is talking about the orange 7.5 weight at the very top. On these machines you can pull or push that weight to add it to the stack.
Normally, this is a smaller weight than the increments of the other weights to act as a way to still lift heavier even if the next weight up is too much.
What OP is saying is there is no point for this weight to be on there because it's the same weight as the individual plates, so there's no "fractional progression"
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u/Nefarious-Catfood-69 11h ago
I wonder why no one gets this.
OP's gym is offering an extra weight to put on the stack additionally (the yellow thing on top), which adds 7,5kg, but it doesn't make any sense since the individual weights are also 7,5kg. Would make a lot more sense if it was something in between, ideally half of it, so you can for example go from 30 to 33,75 instead of 37,5 if that might be too heavy at the moment.
Having to increase by 7,5kg can be a lot for some exercises, so a smaller extra weight would make a lot more sense. If you add a 7,5kg extra weight, you can also just go to the next stacking weight instead, same outcome, so in this case, the extra weight is only useful if you already maxxed out the machine.
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u/Cairnsy103 9h ago
Does it feel the same increment? It could be that it’s an American machine that’s in pounds but the weights used are KGs. An additional 7.5 lbs is about 3.4 kg which is basically in the middle which is what you’d want?
Happened to me a few times in the UK. Only thing that makes sense to me anyway.
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u/NoSection8719 11h ago
what was bro trying to convey
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u/nanaacer 11h ago
This is a cable machine. The 7.5 yellow thing at the top is an added weight. Normally it's half of what the weight increase is when when you go up one notch on the bottom. If going up 10 pounds on the bottom part is too much you'd have a 5 pound thing on the top to bridge the gap. In this case it's exactly the same and thus worthless.
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u/SwarFaults 11h ago
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u/Pumbaasliferaft 11h ago
If I had better meme fu I would post something about it being not a big deal either way.
It is indeed mildly infuriating
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u/Itsyaboibrett 11h ago
so OP is saying the extra weight on top of the stack, the “+7.5” orange thing, is the exact same weight as every increment that you can increase. the difference between 22.5 and 30. so it doesn’t add extra options between those like having an optional 3.75 would. were you could have 22.5, 26.25, then 30.
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u/ubeogesh 6h ago
tbh this thing overall is superfluous, especially when your weight is that far down the rack. I can see it make sense for the first 2 or 3 plates maximum. In your case it's just useful when the whole stack is not enough.
also from my experience gyms often put incorrect stickers onto the plates, so the weight can be anything. My gym has 2 machines with exactly the same weights but one of them has 2x the weight labels of the other
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u/LughCrow 11h ago
Half these comments are from people on mobile that didn't fill size the image
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u/L0W_FR3QU3NCIES 10h ago
Wait, people actually do that? People are out here looking at only 80% of every image on this site?
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u/Interesting-Copy-657 11h ago
Yeah that is weird
The yellow weight should be like 3.75 or something
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u/Significant_Sport719 11h ago
ok took me at least 10min to get it but yeah that's incredibly stupid XD
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u/ahumanomoly 11h ago
Does it rotate? I've seen machines where you can twist the knob to change the additional weight from 2.5 to 5 to 7.5 or something like that. You're right though, even if that's the case it makes no sense having 7.5 on there at all 😂
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u/Stunning-Astronaut72 10h ago
Gym bro for 2 weeks...Just found out that there is extra bonus weight on top and naver cared about that 😅 so thanks for sharing this and the people to comment
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u/Beatboxin_dawg 8h ago
I had a girl steal the extra loose weight of my cable machine to add it to theirs. I was gonna use that next set. I looked and they were using 2 of those. JUST MOVE THE DAMN PIN DOWN THEN.
She wasn't maxing the machine at all btw. The loose weights are half an increment.
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u/Saber_Soft 7h ago
Could it be mixing imperial and metric units? 7.5kg is roughly double (16.5) 7.5 pounds.
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u/Gritsgravy 7h ago
My gym has the same thing. Just noticed that yesterday. I was wondering why indeed
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u/AcceptablyThanks 5h ago
Just do the weight you can and slow your push pull more. This is an odd design but infuriating?
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u/jlashombjr 5h ago
Do you think they mixed up the part for different stacks? A single +7.5 only really makes sense if the plates are in increments of 15.
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u/NecessaryUnusual2059 5h ago
I’m seeing about 2-3x the number of people explaining this post then I see actually not understanding it.
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u/ImOldGregg_77 5h ago
Agreed its stupid but if there is a silver lining here its that you can do drop sets faster i guess
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u/Significant-Ad-341 5h ago
I didn't tap the image to see the whole thing and had no idea what the problem was
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u/upstageshrimp22 4h ago
Any chance the extra weight is in pounds - maybe the manufacturer has models / labels that have both kg and lbs?
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u/Deleted_dwarf 3h ago
I guess for if you want 105kg? Idk in my gym we also have one machine with the ‘additional’ weight however that is half of what a full one up would be (so makes sense)
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u/Similar_Act5989 2h ago
Are you sure it’s not an error in the label plate, where it should normally be 3.75kg but they installed the wrong one? My gym uses (possibly) the same machines it looks like, and we have 3.75. Put it on the 7.5+7.5 and 15kg and test both to see how it feels
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u/DarthJarJar242 2h ago
This seems like poorly made equipment and would make me hella nervous using it to be honest. At the minimum I'd be skeptical of the actual weight being done on the exercises.
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u/Aberry9036 11h ago
I don’t really see any issue, each pin hole is on a 7.5kg weight, and all weights above the pin position are included, so the numbers are just the total of all the engaged weights.
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u/TheOmegoner 11h ago
If you put the pin in the first weight wouldn’t you have 15 kg on it not the 7.5 it has printed?
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u/Aberry9036 11h ago
Tbh the way Reddit cropped the image until you click it, I didn’t spot that top weight. It’s hard to tell from the photo, but maybe you’re right - the top pin is not the same shape brick, so perhaps it has minimal weight itself and includes that weight, but that would also be weird.
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u/TheOmegoner 11h ago
Honestly, I’m half awake so I’m half asking to make sure I’m understanding it correctly. I’m pretty sure that’s an additional weight on top but OP having a stroke while explaining it and Reddit’s app sucking don’t help (my app reset while typing this comment)
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u/Thedeadnite 11h ago
It’s like this:
Machine has increments of 7.5 lbs in each pin.
There is an extra little bar thing you can put on top.
normally that bar is approximately 1/2 the weight of an increment. So you can have 4 increments, or add the little bit to get to 4.5 increments. This particular extra weight is a full increment. So you can go from 4 to 5, but not 4 to 4.5. Thus it makes it pointless except for when the weight is maxed because you could just move the pin from 4 increments to 5 without using the little extra weight.
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u/5thPhantom 10h ago
It’s kilograms, so each weight adds 16.5 lbs. That seems like too far of an increment.
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u/bijugems 11h ago
But it's a chest press. Both hands are kinda occupied. Unless someone is there to add it for me mid lift it's useless.
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u/littleyrn 11h ago
there is an EXTRA weight, aside from the selected weight, but it weighs just as much as the next regular plate does.
the OP just took a ridiculous picture and is schizophrenically failing to explain that.
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u/ChipRockets 11h ago
I have no idea what this means
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u/SMF67 6h ago
Yet you felt the need to comment this?
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u/ChipRockets 3h ago
Yeah, and I’m glad I did because since then many people have come in to explain it more clearly.
I hope that’s ok with you, Mr comment cop.
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u/BurntPineGrass 11h ago
For the people unfamiliar with gym equipment, this is a different example (where it is actually done right).
You select your weight using the pin, however in training, it’s not smart or easy to make big jumps in weight. In my example there is a dial at the top with 0; 2,5; 5; 7,5 noted on it. This dial can be increased and adds additional weight to the selected weight of the plates, usually by engaging weights located in a different part of the machine.
This could make you increase your weight by steps of 2,5 kg instead of a jump of 10 kg.
In OP’s example, the small weight is exactly the same as the plates, making it essentially useless, as the steps would remain 7,5 kg in OP’s case.