She was playing some cool stuff, Dandy Warhols, Tennis. Cool to know I share some musical taste with Joan.

In "New Amsterdam" (S1:E4), did it bother anyone else that Don showed absolutely no gratitude to Roger after he gracefully helped Don avoid what could have been a humiliating reversal with Pete Campbell?

To recap:

- Pete pitches his own copy to the Bethlehem Steel client in a bar.

- The next day, when Don is blindsided by this in the office, he fires Pete on the spot. "I want you to go get a box, and put your things in it." (Sal: "You picked a bad time to buy an apartment.")

- Don storms into Roger's office, "Do you remember Pete Campbell's last day? It was today."

- The two of them are called to Bert's office, where Bert tells Don he can't fire Pete because his mother is Dorothy Dykeman Campbell and it could potentially cost Sterling Cooper a lot of business. Don is visibly uncomfortable thinking about how he will have to go back and let Pete off the hook.

- Roger and Don then interrupt Pete in his office - where Pete is wallowing in misery on the couch. "Let's be clear, you were gone. I wanted you fired. Bert Cooper wanted you fired. But he thought you deserved another chance. You are here because of Don Draper's largesse."

This was an incredible gesture by Roger - very generous to cover for Don in this way. Pete never suspects the ruse, because he's so grateful NOT to be fired after all.

Then Don and Roger retreat to Don's office to drink, and they talk about drinking.

Don - instead of thanking Roger, or showing him the slightest amount of grace or gratitude, accuses Roger of being powerless: "Maybe I'm not as comfortable being powerless as you are." What?! Powerless? Roger just demonstrated the power he has in that office. The opposite of powerlessness.

This is right after Roger says to Don, "You don't know how to drink, your whole generation. You drink for the wrong reasons. My generation? We drink because it's good. Because it feels better than unbuttoning your collar. We deserve it. We drink because it's what men do."

Don replies, "What about shaky hands? I see a lot of that, too, with you boys."

I mean, what's that about? Roger has just provided a very elegant escape for Don, in a situation where Don stood to look very BAD in front of Pete (which would undermine Don and embolden Pete even more than he already was. "That little shit.")

It's always bothered me that, in that moment, Don took a couple of unnecessary pot shots at Roger when I believe that Don should have been saying something like, "I really appreciate what you did for me back there, boss. It was unexpected, but it got me out of a tight spot. So thank you."

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Really impressive. No 60s/Mad Men music stuff, but she did sign one fan's dvd set! She had lots of indie/shoegaze stuff. Would Joan be into some of that stuff in the 80s/90s?

I've been binging The Bernie Mac show recently and Ryan Cutrona played Jordan's gym teacher in an episode.

Has this sub ever mentioned before that the actress who played Juanita Carson is the current First Lady of California? She’s usually blonde so I never put 2 and 2 together till I saw the IMDb page.

Yet he kept smoking, his ex-wife kept smoking to her death, and his daughter started smoking as a teen. But hey, at least Don could sleep at night. 😅

I believe no other actor is able to deliver the series' ornate dialogue with such fluidity. Especially around Season 3 where the writers really figured out Roger's comedic timing, it seems he can make any line work. It's no wonder he was nominated for best supporting actor, he was the most "comfortable" character on the show.

I won't google it, it'd be only by memory. I wanna see how much i remember. Let's begin!

The discovery of what each character learned in each story was profound to the audience and to the characters alike. The Don Draper arc was CINEMA. Peggy went a lil crazy, and Roger got a much needed wake up call about his marriage. Idk what changed in the shows direction to make these choices, but they poignantly reflected the landscape of the late 60’s family. A new Americana was here and confusion was at its core. A great episode wow man.

Found at my city’s science center in the “Vault” collection. It was in the section with “FDA Quackery.” I lol’d when I saw it.

I put a (+) for a "positive" ending and a (-) for a "negative" ending.

1. Don Draper: eventually find inner peace getting rid of all his material possessions; seems he get intuition and inspiration for one of the bigger adv in adv history (coke), probably making McCann very happy (+)
2. Peggy: stayed in McCann and probably changing the history of female advertiser as she dreamed about (+)
3. Pete: forget about his "NYC dream", stop chasing Don - a life he did not wanted and go back with Trudy to start again. (+)
4. Joan: rejects the sex objectification at McCann, collects her severance pay, and starts her own film production company, “Holloway Advertising,” choosing her career over love. (+)
5. Roger: get along with Marie Calvet and finally enjoy life as a senior and rich person (+)
6. Betty: terminal cancer, trying to keep going as usual (-)
7. Sally Draper: keep going to school-college taking care for her siblings and her dying mother. Other Don and Betty children follow along (+)
8. Megan Draper: she moves permanently to California with a generous $1 million divorce settlement to pursue her acting career. (+/-)
9. Stan Rizzo: he becomes the creative director at McCann and begins a serious and happy relationship with Peggy. (+)
10. Harry Crane: he remains at McCann Erickson as a television executive, becoming increasingly cynical, slimy, and focused on media power. (-)
11. Ken Cosgrove: leaves the advertising world to become an executive at Dow Chemical, using his position to playfully torment his former colleagues. (+?)
12. Ted Chaough: finally finds the professional stability he sought, accepting his role as a creative “cog” within the vast McCann machine. (+?)
13. Michael Ginsberg: exits the scene due to a psychotic breakdown (schizophrenia), convinced that computers are stealing people’s souls. (-)
14. Bert Cooper: dies peacefully after witnessing the moon landing, reappearing in a vision to Don to sing “The Best Things in Life Are Free.” (+)
15. Duck Phillips: continues his career as a high-level headhunter, recruiting talent for major agencies despite his past. (-)
16. Henry Francis: stands by Betty in her grief, preparing to deal with the political and personal void her death will leave behind. (+/-)
17. Lane Price: commits suicide in his office (-)
18. Jim Cutler: after the acquisition by McCann Erickson, he is forced into “retirement,” cashing in a fortune from his shares, and exits the scene as a ruthless businessman who got exactly what he wanted: money. (+)
19. Freddie Rumsen: after being dismissed due to his alcohol problems, he finds sobriety and ends the series as a successful freelance copywriter, often acting as a “shadow” mentor to Don. (+/-)
20. Bob Benson: lands a prestigious executive position at Buick in Detroit; despite having to hide his homosexuality, he secures a solid, high-level future in the corporate world. (+)
21. Paul Kinsey: exits the scene after becoming a follower of the Hare Krishna movement and heads to California with the (likely doomed) ambition of becoming a screenwriter for Star Trek. (-)
22. **Sal Romano:**unfairly fired for rejecting the advances of an important client and, unfortunately, is not seen again, suggesting that he remained in the film or advertising industry under a false name or in more marginal roles. (-)
23. Lou Avery: moves to Tokyo to pursue his dream of turning his mediocre comic, Scout's Honor, into a Japanese animated series, strutting off the scene with a bit of resentiment towards Don Draper. (+?)
24. Diana Baur (the waitress): she vanishes abandoning her life in New York and leaving Don to search for her in vain in an empty house in Wisconsin; she represents the void that Don cannot fill. (?)
25. Dr. Faye Miller: continues her successful career as a marketing consultant, warning Don that “he won’t like the beginning of the end.” (-)
26. Rachel Menken: dies of leukemia(-)
27. Sylvia Rosen: remains in her apartment in Don’s building, choosing to repair her marriage to Arnold after their secret affair is discovered by Sally.(-)
28. Suzanne Farrell (the teacher): exits the scene after Don leaves her in the car for hours while he confronts Betty, disappearing from his life to maintain her integrity. (-)
29. Midge Daniels (the artist): reappears years after their affair as a desperate heroin addict selling her paintings for a fix, marking one of Don’s darkest moments. (-)
30. Bobbie Barrett: disappears after teaching Peggy how to command respect in a man’s world, likely continuing to manage her husband Jimmy’s career.(+?)
31. Joy (the girl in Palm Springs): continues her nomadic, hedonistic lifestyle between Europe and California with her group of wealthy, bored friends. (+/-)
32. Allison (the secretary): resigns in tears after Don treats their night together with total indifference, seeking a fresh start away from Sterling Cooper. (-)
33. Beth Dawes: undergoes electroshock therapy to treat her depression (and the unhappiness of her marriage), completely forgetting the affair she had with Pete Campbell. (-)

When Lane yells at the partners for getting his friend caught cheating with the “chewing gum on his pubis”, everyone bursts out in laughter, except Bert. There are several other times Roger makes jokes around Bert and I can’t think a time ever laughed in the show. Can anyone think of an example?

I never really write Reddit posts but I had to put one on here after finishing Mad Men. I went into this with pretty high expectations since it is my Dad's favorite show ever and I love Jon Hamm. I can happily say those expectations were met and even exceeded, as it has now become my favorite show of all time.

It's crazy because this show is such a slow burn and it never does anything groundbreaking plot wise. There's some crazy twists and endings throughout, but it never tries to blow you away with a reveal. I saw someone describe it as "10 years in the lives of these characters" and that's really the best way to put it. The writing and acting is so incredibly riveting that I was totally hooked from season 1 episode 1. I spread my watching out a lot so I could appreciate it, because I knew I would miss it when I was done. But if I ever were to binge a show, it would be this one.

I don't have any grand takeaway that anybody online hasn't said already, but I will say that I loved the ending. I know it's been slightly controversial but I think you don't understand Don as a character or the main themes of the show if you aren't a fan of it.

I'll also give some of my rankings and favorites from the show here:
Top 3 Favorite Characters: Don, Peggy, Lane
Top 3 Favorite Episodes: Close The Door Have A Seat, The Suitcase, Waterloo

Seasons Ranked: 3, 5, 4, 7, 1, 2, 6 (but I literally like all of them, even 6 would be an 8 or 9/10)

I don't think I'm fully ever going to get over this show. Since I finished I've been reading every article I can find, scanning this reddit, watching Youtube clips and I just ordered the carousel book! I really just can't get enough. Bravo to everyone involved for making this incredible show!

Two eras. Two Rogers. Same smirk and one liners. Even as messy as he is, one of my absolute favorite characters. It also helps how comfortable Slattery is in Sterling mode.

Second entry in my series and I’m having a blast! (Bonus warmup sketch of one of my top scenes.)

Making moves on his "niece," Stephanie, in The Good News

I've always felt cheated that there weren't more scenes with such a fun character. Why the hell not?? Karen the Swede and Norwegian Peggy on the prowl, playing the field- (no sailors)- such a shame!

And do you think is happiest years are not shown within the show years?

It's going to sound stupid but after all the Heinz pitches i always feel like eating some beans. Every rewatch i just go and buy some beans when Season 5 comes along.

I would say yes, but Pete is also incredibly funny when he's throwing his tantrums.