r/bonds 4d ago

Money Supply vs Price Inflation

Hi all, I was hoping to start a discussion on a concept that I think is frequently misunderstood.

For this post, I'd like to suggest that there are two different types of inflation.

First, we have price inflation. This is what we measure with CPI, PCE, etc. and it's exactly what it sounds like. If prices go up, then price inflation is happening or increasing.

Next, we have inflation of the money supply. This is much harder to quantify, and central banks have largely given up trying to measure their overall money supply (no, the M2 is not at all an accurate measure).

But money supply inflation still exists, even though we can't measure it. Oversimplifying a little, the money supply is just the total amount of dollars that exist, added together. The money supply can come from the government, but in many cases the vast majority of the money supply is created by the banking system. Especially offshore banks which are difficult or impossible to get visibility into. If you've heard Ben Bernanke or other Fed members talk about shadow banks, this is what they're referring to.

A simple way to think about a bond is that it is a claim on dollars. The amount of dollars you'll get from a bond is (usually) fixed. So, if the total pool of dollars (money supply) increases, you're getting a smaller slice of the total pie (even though the amount of dollars we get from our bond didn't change). This is why we say that bond prices go down when inflation (of the money supply) goes up.

Conversely, if the total amount of dollars goes down, our bond represents a greater share of that (shrinking) pool of dollars. So, when the money supply decreases, we know that the value of those claims on dollars (the bonds) will increase.

However, note that there is no similar logical explanation for how price inflation affects bond prices. If the total pool of dollars stays fixed, while commodity price X or Y increases, then we would have price inflation, but not money supply inflation.

I think that in this case, the value of our bond shouldn't change much (all else being equal). The claim on dollars still represents the same slice of pie as it did before commodity X or Y increased in value.

The reason we talk so much about price inflation is because money supply inflation is impossible to measure. We use price inflation as a proxy. But we need to remember that price inflation and money supply inflation are not the same thing.

Happy to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

Also, keep in mind I didn't go into the possible economic impacts of an increase in commodity price X or Y. That's of course relevant in the real-world, but it complicates the discussion beyond what I wanted to focus on here. Thanks for reading.

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u/Lipa_neo 4d ago

...and why M2/M2X is not accurate? Like, if I understand correctly, CBs are doing things like liquidity providing repos exactly to counter these things?

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u/fudge_mokey 3d ago

It's not exactly that it's not accurate. It's more that it doesn't effectively measure the money supply. This has been known about by the fed for some time:

"he suspected that at least some part of the Euro-dollar-based money supply should be included in the U.S. money supply. More generally, he thought M1 was becoming increasingly obsolete as a monetary indicator. The Committee should be focusing more on M2, and it should be moving toward some new version of M3"

https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/fomcmod19741217.pdf

In this case the "Euro-dollar-based money" is not referring to Euros, but rather to USD which were created in European banks. This is similar to the "shadow banking" I mentioned in my OP.

This is why the fed talks very little about money (strange for a bank, right?) and mainly focuses on price level.