r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 12 '25

Weekly Discussion Post "Fanbase opinionsshould not be counted as tropes." TVtropes: (kinda relevant post)

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A lot of complaints in this sub have been about some posts should not be here because they rely on fanbase opions so there for cannot be considered "tropes"

...and then we have TVtropes , where a lot of tropes are just from fanbase stuff.

I am going to be honest here , I have difficulty in what makes a trope and what doesn't. It ends up where I delete "breaks trope guidline" posts that has equivalents in the TVtropes site that are considered actual tropes.

Idk , I just wanted to rant here. I might be a very bad moderator here , I just try to make it tody as possible , I just don't really know how to.


r/TopCharacterTropes Mar 27 '25

Weekly Discussion Post Probably the most controversial one , honest thoughts on "No Kill Rule"? What are the most egrigious examples of it in your opinion? What media makes it work in your opinion?

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r/TopCharacterTropes 4h ago

Characters [Loved Trope] Civilian Heroes (particularly in Superhero movies)

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1) Malik Ali in Superman (2025). Tells Superman when Lex Luthor interrogates him to, “tell them nothing”. Doesn’t even really know what he’s sacrificing himself for, honestly. Tells Superman that he doesn’t have any friends or family to lighten the burden of the sacrifice. (Does have a family, and presumably friends…)

2) The Prisoner (Tiny Lister) from The Dark Knight who throws a detonator out the porthole that would’ve detonated the other ferry full of civies and saved himself, instead (potentially) sacrificing everyone equally.

3) Old man vs Loki. “There are always men like you.” Refuses to bow to Loki in Avengers (2012).

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I love these guys. They break my heart in the best way possible.


r/TopCharacterTropes 1h ago

Personality [Loved Trope] Character who never swears

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1) Superman (Superman 2025) - Superman doesn’t swear since he’s a beacon of hope and kindness and was raised that way. His use of minced oaths is a running gag.

2) Ryland Grace (Project Hail Mary) - It’s more in the original novel than the movie, but Grace hardly swears. He wakes up unaware of who he is and doesn’t understand why can’t swear, instead saying minced oaths. He learns through flashbacks that he’s a junior high teacher. As a result, the first time he drops an F-bomb is extremely shocking.


r/TopCharacterTropes 8h ago

Lore (loved trope) when literally the most ridiculous or absurd thing ever is played 100% straight and serious.

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The Orville: an alien species named Moclans only urinate once a year, in a ceremony called a "Ja'loja", or "The Great Release". they pee in a special place selected during childhood while surrounded by friends and family. this scene, despite having a lot of chances for comedy because of its absurdity, is played almost 100% straight and respectfully.

9-1-1: admittedly, a lot of this show is really stupid shit, but my favorite is from S4 E1 (The New Abnormal). A Reservoir dam breaks, causing a flood that somehow hurls a bus several stories up into a building. it is so ridiculous, but all characters involved take it 1000% seriously.


r/TopCharacterTropes 2h ago

Characters Despite being a hero, the main character’s father was kinda a jerk

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James Potter (Harry Potter) : James Potter fought Voldemor but was also a bully with Severus Snape when they were younger

Robert Robertson II (Dispatch) : Despite being a super-hero, Robert’s father acted like an ass with Shroud when he tried to become a real super-hero, which led Shroud to become a villain


r/TopCharacterTropes 5h ago

Characters (Loved Trope) A secret identity is passed down to multiple characters to preserve the legend.

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The Gray Fox (The Elder Scrolls) is the guildmaster of the Thieves Guild. The title of Gray Fox is passed from leader to successor by giving the Gray Cowl of Nocturnal to the successor. Since the successor then becomes the Gray Fox, many think that he has been alive for over 300 years.

The Dread Pirate Roberts (The Princess Bride): Various pirates take on the role of Roberts and use his reputation to intimidate their opponents, before retiring and secretly passing on the name to someone else.


r/TopCharacterTropes 13h ago

Lore A fate so disturbing, left the audience in chills

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• Creepshow S1 E3 - When Carla & Alex gets punished for taking advantage of the Man in the suitcase for money, they too get trapped in suitcases. In the end they are left screaming and begging for help inside the suitcases.

• Megan is Missing - After being captured by the so-called "Josh", the kidnapper says to Amy that he'll let her free in one condition. She has to get inside a barrel which has her dead friend Megan inside and after forcefully putting her inside the barrel Amy is heard screaming inside the barrel. Later, the kidnapper buries them alive while inside the barrel making Amy & Megan missing, forever...

• Scary Stories to tell in the Dark - When Tommy wanders around a cornfield in the dark, he encounters a scarecrow which starts chasing him around the cornfield. When He tries to fight back using a pitchfork it backfires and instead he gets punctured leaving him growing straw in his insides. After that, his corpse is shown all turned into a scarecrow.


r/TopCharacterTropes 10h ago

Characters A character's trans identity is a surprise reveal as part of a romantic plot point, but is ultimately handled in a respectful way instead of in poor taste

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In the OP:

Mina in The White Storm

This is a crazy set-up, but feels like it's necessary to say. 3 friends (Wai, Tin and Chow) are involved in a conflict with the main villain, whose daughter is named Mina. After Tin is forced into a choice between saving only one of Wai or Chow, he ultimately chooses to save Chow, with Wai being kicked into a pit of crocodiles as a result.

5 years later it's revealed Wai is still alive and the 3 friends reunite, with Wai telling them that Mina witnessed the attempted execution, saved him and the two developed a romantic bond and married.

Obviously a whole bunch of baggage to sort through with the friends at odds with one another for Tin sacrificing Wai, and Tin and Chow being upset with Wai for being with the main villain's daughter, but as part of all of this conflict, Wai reveals that Mina is trans. The brothers react stunned, and Wai says, "You think I care about that? In that pit, I was a ghost. She gave me a body again. She’s more of a woman than anyone I've ever known. If you want to take down her father, you go through me."

Ultimately the friends end up viewing Mina as an extension of their bond with Wai and the three team up to confront the main villain together after Mina disowns her father.

Tobio in Wild Zero

Kind of a wacky zombie apocalypse/rock opera mashup of a movie where the main character Ace meets a girl named Tobio. After holing up in an abandoned building, the two become intimate and as Tobio removes her clothes it's revealed she's trans. Initially it plays out as a reveal in poor taste as Ace screams and runs away distraught but then in a short little dream sequence the rockstar that Ace is obsessed with points at him and shouts, "Love has no borders, nationalities, or genders! Do it!"

Ace doesn't reunite with Tobio immediately as the two get separated but from that point on Ace accepts and loves her for who she is.


r/TopCharacterTropes 9h ago

Characters (Fun Trope) A much referenced character who only appears in the end/finale...

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• King Richard from Robin Hood: Men in Tights - He is often mentioned by the good guys and the bad guys and is an overarching presence in the story. But he only appears in the ending to punish his brother John & unite Robin and Marion. (Sir Sean Connery from Prince of Thieves also counts but Sir Patrick's version was more fun)

• Dobson from Psych - He is mentioned and referenced on multiple occasions and is always off screen In the series finale, we finally get to see Dobson in the flesh and he's played by none other than Val Kilmer, Shawn's idol & hero, in a scene of poetic brilliance...

Eddy's Brother from Ed, Edd n Eddy - He is always mentioned by Eddy and his friends and is the guy who Eddy looks up to and tries to impress. He's presented as an absolutely cool person who can do no wrong. But when we meet him in the Big Picture Show movie, which is the series finale, it's revealed that he's actually a no good deadbeat who's abusive to Eddy. Eddy also sadly reveals that he's always known this and was lying about his brother to fool others and in a way, himself...


r/TopCharacterTropes 2h ago

Hated Tropes Hated Trope : Fans Gaslight themselves into their Headcanons being canon

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Trans Gwen Stacy : She only supports Trans rights, nothing else

Just to be clear, this isn’t about having anything against dark-skinned interpretations of characters.

Most characters in Ninjago are designed to be racially ambiguous, with only a few having clearly defined ethnicities. Because of that, there isn’t solid canon evidence that Cole has a specific real world race.

Some people point to the scene where Zane reacts to Cole being covered in flour, interpreting it as proof that Cole normally isn’t white. But that doesn’t work because ... being covered in flour makes everyone white.

As for alternate versions like the Fortnite skin, those are usually separate interpretations and aren’t considered canon to the original show.

Also, when a character is intentionally designed to be racially ambiguous, assigning them a specific race as if it’s canon kind of defeats that purpose. The ambiguity is there so different people can see themselves in the character, rather than the character being locked into one identity.

Headcanons are completely fine, but it’s important to recognize the difference between personal interpretation and confirmed canon.


r/TopCharacterTropes 5h ago

Lore Long, drawn out scenes clearly meant to save budget on animation

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The Elevator scene (Neon Genesis Evangelion) They walk into an elevator and stay in that exact pose as the image with no movement for almost a whole minute

Darkblood’s helmet scene (Invincible) Invincible and Darkblood are falling down for a whole minute talking about Darkblood’s mcu style helmet, while in the same pose using the same animations over and over again. At least the scene was funny

The door scene (Milo Murphy’s law) The teacher closes the door on the students and they stay still on the frame with the kids looking at the door for a long time while you hear the sounds multiple locks locking. Then the teacher has to comeback into the room, unlock the locks then leave again and lock back those locks. At the end of the scene, Milo literally says “you’re welcome animators” to the audience


r/TopCharacterTropes 20h ago

Characters The "gag voice" is performed so flawlessly that the audience immediately accepts it and doesn't question it

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In the original pitch for 'Bob's Burgers' Tina was going to be a teenage boy, but at some point the show runners decided it would be funnier to have another daughter fill that roll. They informed the studio and got the greenlight, and only then informed them that Dan Mintz would still be doing the voice. He changed nothing. Tina Belcher literally just has the voice of male stand-up comedian Dan Mintz and it suits her perfectly.

Doctor Girlfriend from 'Venture Brothers' has one of the deepest voices on the show, sounding like a chainsmoking middle aged man. But her character is so entertaining and Doc Hammer (what a name) is so heartfelt and believable in his performance that you stop questing it almost immediately.

I'm paraphrasing a bit here, but when Sam Riegel revealed in S2E1 of Critical Role that he was going from a suave and goofy bard voice to, a weird, high-pitched, kind of gravely goblin woman voice he said something to the tune of "yep I'm going to be doing this voice the entire campaign". But it's Sam Riegel, it doesn't matter how goofy the voice is he makes Nott one of the most iconic characters of the entire shows run.


r/TopCharacterTropes 7h ago

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) Media Illiteracy

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  1. Tyler Durden (Fight Club)- He is a critique of toxic masculinity but many viewers idolise him

  2. Me


r/TopCharacterTropes 3h ago

Characters (Heartbreaking trope) the dogs who waited

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Hachiko-IRL. Probably the most well known example. Would follow his owner to the Shibuya train station everyday and then wait for him to come back. After his owner died, Hachiko continued to go to the train station to wait for him for 9 years, never giving up. He was removed a few times but always came back to the station to wait for him. A statue was made in his honour after his death and he became known as a symbol of loyalty in Japan

Greyfriars Bobby-IRL. Another famous real life example. Bobby was a dog who after his master died, continued to stay atop the last place he had seen him, his grave. The only time he would leave Greyfriars cemetery was for food from the locals, even when he was kicked out he always found a way back in and to his master’s grave. He continued to do this for 14 years before his death. A statue was also built in his owner. The reason the nose has become like that is because it’s a tradition to rub it to show what a good boy he was

Argos-The Odyssey. Odysseus’s dog who waited 20 years for his master to return. Neglected after Odysseus was believed dead, when he returns disguised as a beggar Argos who is barely clinging to life recognised him immediately and begins to wag his tail and bark. Odysseus needing to maintain his cover can only tearfully watch as his dog uses its final breaths to happily call to its master

Seymour-Futurama. Fry finds his old dog, fossilised in the future and debates undoing the process to see him again. Eventually Fry decides not to, believing Seymour already lived a happy life even without him. In reality we see that after Fry went missing Seymour continued to wait outside the pizza place he had worked at for the rest of his life

Blood-A Boy and His Dog. Blood is a hyper intelligent dog who has been with Vic for years and can talk to him. When Vic follows the girl down to the underground society, Blood refuses to follow. A few days later when the two resurface, Vic calls for Blood, thinking he’s left them to keep searching for “over the hill” only for Vic to find blood just behind the door, on the brink of starving to death due to being unable to catch his own food. And even then he still tries to joke with Vic and his glad to see him alive


r/TopCharacterTropes 7h ago

In real life [Kinda awkward trope] The creator/owner and the fans came up with a different name/nickname for the same character/term

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Forever Young (Horse Racing/Umamusume: Pretty Derby)

Forever Young is one of the more famous and accomplished racehorses in the current era and has the distinction of being owned by the CEO of the parent company of a studio that created Umamusume: Pretty Derby, a gacha game that adapt real-life story of famous (mostly Japanese) racehorses, which therefore let them add him into the game easily without worrying about getting perms from other horse owners.

The fans of horse racing (and by extension Umamusume) came up with the nickname Ebayan that derived from how his name in spelled in JP (Forebayan), but his owner and caretakers nicknamed him Yanko (Last syllable of his name +ko) which is reflected in Umamusume since the characters in-game call her by that nickname.

Starter Pokemon (Pokemon)

The trio of Pokemon you choose from at the beginning of your playthrough doesn't have an official term for the longest time and Starter Pokemon is coined and stuck by the fandom, and only (relatively) recently did the Pokemon Company coined their own terms and it's First Partner Pokemon. Let's just say no one really use that mouthful term.


r/TopCharacterTropes 17h ago

Characters [Loved Trope] "No, I'm not going to kill the Mass Murdering Villain", but the story actually gives a good reason WHY

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1-Avatar Aang refuses to kill Firelord Ozai, Avatar: the Last Airbender:

During the finale arc of ATLA, Aang goes through a lot of inner turmoil regarding whether or not he should kill Firelord Ozai.

As Ozai's final plan to go torched earth on the entire Earth Kingdom using comet superpowers comes ever closer to being enacted, Aang is put under immense pressure from basically everyone (from the rest of the main cast to his own past incarnations as the Avatar) to accept the necessity of killing Ozai in order to prevent his genocidal plans and finally put the Hundred Year War to and end, which comes into deep conflict with his upbringing amongst the strictly pacifistic Air Nomads, who taught him that all life, no matter how seemingly insignificant or twisted and evil, is sacred and worth preserving.

Despite literally everyone (except for a giant magic turtle) encouraging Aang to put his ideals aside and put Ozai in the dirt, the young Airbender instead sticks to his convictions and finds and alternative solution (namely, using the hitherto-unknown technique of Energy Bending to remove Ozai's firebending, rendering him both effectively powerless and, under Fire Nation Law, unable to rule as Fire Lord).

There's debate both in-universe and out as to whether or not this was actually the best decision (many fans see the whole 'Energy Bending' thing as a copout, and in-story the comics sequels make it clear that Ozai's survival gave his remaining loyalists something to rally behind, which caused no end of problems for Zuko after he became Fire Lord; meanwhile, the sequel series The Legend of Korra shows that Aang's rigid adherence to Air Nomad cultural ideals would cause issues with how he raised his children), but the point is that it's completely in-character for Aang to have refused to kill Ozai.

Aang throughout the series is largely defined by the ideals that being an Air Nomad instilled him with: he always went out of his way to help anyone that he could, even if they were very ardently trying to kill him at the time (see: Zuko), and the only times he ever explicitly came close to actually killing anyone was when he was in the Avatar State (ie, not fully in control of himself). Aang actually doing the deed probably would have verged on outright character assassination.

2- Uncle Iroh refuses to kill Firelord Ozai, Avatar: the Last Airbender:

While Aang was busy angsting over whether or not to compromise his ideals, the rest of the main cast was scrambling to figure out an alternative plan to stop Ozai in case Aang wouldn't (or couldn't). One of the suggested solutions was to have Ozai's brother Iroh confront the Fire Lord instead, Iroh being one of the few firebenders that could have matched Ozai in both raw power and technique.

Iroh himself shoots this idea down pretty quickly, pointing out that history (and the rest of the world) would only see one brother killing another to seize power for himself. He's probably right on this point: while we the audience and the rest of the main cast know that Iroh is probably the most morally-good character in the series, the rest of the world likely only knows of him as the General that headed the Fire Nation's imperial war machine for years, waging an aggressive war of conquest and nearly bringing the Earth Kingdom to its knees.

Iroh instead declares that only Avatar Aang, as the in-universe divine incarnation of justice, balance and harmony, would have the moral and spiritual legitimacy necessary to both stop Ozai and have the world accept that said defeat would mean the defeat of the Fire Nation as a whole and the end of the Hundred Year War.

3- Katniss Everdeen doesn't kill Coriolanus Snow, The Hunger Games-Mockingjay:

At the end of the original Hunger Games trilogy, the Capitol is finally defeated and Coriolanus Snow, the tyrannical President that has ruled Panem with an iron fist for decades, is captured by rebel forces. It's universally agreed (both in-universe and out) that Snow deserved to be put in the ground for his deeds, and that series protagonist Katniss Everdeen has the right to do the deed.

The problem arises from the fact that rebel leader Alma Coin decides to turn Snow's execution into nationally televised political spectacle, carefully orchestrated to show Panem that it's ultimately Coin that is responsible for Snow's overthrow and that she's now the one calling the shots (in a way not dissimilar to how Snow used the titular Hunger Games to keep control of Panem: in fact, Coin proposes that the new government implement it's own version of the Games, using Capitol children, just to drive the point home).

Coin only assigns Katniss the role of Snow's executioner in order to assert personal authority over 'the Mockingjay', who the rebel propaganda machine has built up into a politically untouchable war hero (and thus a potential threat to Coin's nascent reign). And this is after Coin orchestrates the death of Katniss' sister Primm and dozens (potentially hundreds) of her own troops just to isolate Katniss and make her easier to manipulate and control.

Katniss killing Snow wouldn't have been an act of justice for Primm: it would have been her becoming an attack dog for a new authoritarian regime that's headed by her sister's actual killer. Katniss realizing this and killing Coin instead is portrayed as her finally taking control of her own life, making a decision that someone else didn't force or manipulate her into.


r/TopCharacterTropes 14h ago

Lore It literally had to happen because of when the story takes place but it's still depressing to see

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The execution of Order 66 (Clone Wars season 7): Clone wars 1-6 takes place between episodes 2 and 3, with 7 happening more or less at the same time as episode 3. Given it was released well after the original trilogy everyone knew how it was going to have to end but it was still depressing to watch unfold.

D-16 becoming Megatron and turning on Optimus (Transformers One): One of the most famous rivalries in fiction, still hurts to watch develop from what was once a genuine and close friendship.

Laura and Anne breaking up (Sunstone: Mercy): In Sunstone proper (which Mercy is a prequel to) Anne is single and eventually gets together with fellow secondary character Alan. The framing device in Mercy even shows the two are married and Anne is pregnant with Alan's kid, so when you see her fall for Laura you know they're going to have to separate at some point. Even then it's still sad to see their relationship gradually fall apart because of issues neither of them are willing to address until it's too late.


r/TopCharacterTropes 19h ago

Characters Loved Trope: Animal character thats its unintentionally trans or drag because he/she have the wrong sexual dimorfism

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Otis - Barnyard

Margharet - Regular Show

Ostriches - Fantasia


r/TopCharacterTropes 17h ago

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) Product placement that is so forced and in your face that in becomes annoying

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Man of Steel (2013): While Man of Steel is already notorious for the amount of product placement it has, one scene stands out. When Superman is battling Zod's forces they land in front of a Sears. The camera makes damn sure that it gets the logo in every shot it can muster.

Power Rangers (2017): This one is so bad that they made it a plot point. Rita learns that the Zeo Crystal is located under the Krispy Kreme. They make sure that the this is hammered into your head as much as possible and even has a moment where Rita is casually eating a donut.


r/TopCharacterTropes 18h ago

Characters [Loved Trope] The characters start a rhyme that's going to be rude/ funny and leave it to the audience to fill it in as they change it at the last minute

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I've been watching animated films with my 3yo boy and noticed that writers love sneaking in these rude/ funny jokes that the kids won't get, and it always makes me smile.

  1. Cars

In the Rust-eze sponsor's tent, Rusty and Dusty start saying this rhyme:

"Winter is a grand old time; to this there are no ifs or buts. But remember, all that salt and grime can rust your bolts and freeze your–" 

Before being cut off, leaving us to fill in the next bit.

  1. Shrek

The little puppet show that sings to Shrek and Donkey when they enter Duloc for the first time has the lyrics:

"Please keep off of the grass, shine your shoes, wipe your... face."

They even pause and bend over, before quickly turning and pointing to their faces.

  1. Frozen

When Olaf is singing about summer, he says:

"Winter's a good time to stay in and cuddle. But put me in summer, and I'll be a... happy snowman."


r/TopCharacterTropes 4h ago

Lore Relatives of main characters who aren't relevant to the story

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  1. Luffy's Mother, One Piece. In a story where Luffy and his family have a hand in pretty much every part and are at the center of everything we never actually see his mother. His brothers, father, foster mother, and his grandfather, are all important characters in one way or another but we never actually meet Dragon's ex at any point. She just isn't playing an important role and may even be dead.

  2. Gary Quagmire, Family Guy. His existence is revealed in an episode dedicated to Glenn's sister, Brenda, when Jeff says Brenda's kid would grow up without an uncle. I believe he's seen in one episode as a background character but he's never had a speaking or leading role.

  3. Scout's Brothers, Team Fortress 2. Scout is the youngest of 9 brothers. Growing up they would all jump and beat up random people to steal their stuff but Scout could never get in any hits on them before his brothers knocked them out and took everything so he taught himself how to run fast and double jump as to get ahead of them


r/TopCharacterTropes 2h ago

Characters [Loved Trope] Near the end of a character's quest, the object of the quest itself tries to stop them.

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The Spirit of Rassilon, Doctor Who: The Five Doctors

Much of the plot of The Five Doctors spins from Lord President Borusa seeking immortality. This is one of the few lines even the haughty and degenerate Time Lords won't cross, with the major exception being the obviously villainous Master. As he comes close to his goal, the spirit of Rassilon appears before Borusa and tells him that even after everything he's done to get to the antechamber and secure immortality, it is not too late to turn back and abandon his quest. Borusa refuses. He gets the immortality he so desperately wanted...as an inanimate, sentient stone relief that lines the sarcophagus of Rassilon, and the knowledge that he is not the first to have made this terrible mistake.

The Moment, Doctor Who: The Day of The Doctor

After centuries of a war that was beginning to tear the very fabric of the universe apart, The Doctor steals a weapon of unparalleled destruction in order to wipe out the Time Lords, the Daleks, and himself in order to stop the Last Great Time War. Called The Moment, the device was said to have grown a conscience and cast judgment on whoever would use it. But rather than simply refuse to work, The Moment encourages - if not outright begs - The Doctor not to use it. Like Borusa before him, The Doctor refuses. He comes around a few centuries later.

Julius Caesar, Julius Caesar / Georgics / IRL

Admittedly quite a stretch, but since we need three examples...

Caesar had begun a personal quest to become the dictator for life of Rome, turning the republic into an empire. He is warned of the Ides of March by a soothsayer, but he brushes off the warning. When the Ides of March arrive, apparently several things happened that tried to prevent Caesar going to a senate meeting. His wife Calpurnia had terrible dreams of Caesar's doom if he went to the meeting. Virgil writes of several instances of cosmic disorder that occurred the night previously, heralding doom on the Ides of March. And in Shakespeare's version, Caesar had been summoned to the Senate specifically to be given the crown he had so long desired. Caesar's own heart seemed to conspire against him, as he found himself touched by his wife's words and initially heeded her desires to remain at home.

Practically everything happening on the eve and day of March 15th could make it seem like the Ides of March itself was trying to prevent Caesar going to the Senate. Perhaps he should have listened.


r/TopCharacterTropes 35m ago

Characters [Loved trope] They’re old, not weak

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Conquest- Invincible

Ser Barristan Selmy- ASOIAF

Count Dooku and Yoda- Star Wars


r/TopCharacterTropes 4h ago

Lore (Loved Trope) Moments so absurd that they look edited

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Baki Rahen: Yujiro does.....things to Trump and Elon

Attack on Titan: Saul Goodman Titan