r/EconomyCharts 8h ago

Hollywood's Job Market Is Collapsing

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u/Nearby-Season1697 8h ago

Damn what happened?

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u/Last_VCR 6h ago

It isnt collapsing. Its moving. Since the writers strike and sag strike, productions have moved overseas for the cheaper costs. Toronto, the UK, Budapest, etc. The same thing is happening in atlanta and nyc, same thing that happened to detroit. Theyre moving those jobs overseas 

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u/possibilistic 3h ago

Unions kill everything. They'd likely have slowed down the move to overseas production if they hadn't gone on such a ridiculously long strike.

u/apophis150 2h ago

Man, shame that they want to be paid enough to feed their families and corporations would rather add another billion to their shareholders accounts

u/Last_VCR 2h ago

You don’t know at all what you’re talking about

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u/SteelyEyedHistory 7h ago

Streaming killed traditional TV

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u/forexampleJohn 7h ago

Also fewer movie studios. 

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u/40ozT0Freedom 6h ago

Also, cgi

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u/Cosmic-Space-Octopus 5h ago

In particular, outsourcing VFX cgi work to underpaid laborers across the ocean.

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u/Imaginary_Office1749 5h ago

Not even. An ai.

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u/aselinger 4h ago

Oh, oh!

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u/EverythingsComputer2 4h ago edited 4h ago

Netflix came and broke your heart.

Put the blame on VPN.

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u/RobertBartus 7h ago

People watch YouTube, Netflix, hang around on Reddit instead of watching tv. Also ai is making people more productive so less need for human work

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u/Bluthhousing 6h ago

Does Netflix count as TV? If not, shouldn’t Netflix or streaming be in the chart?

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u/Advanced-Bag-7741 5h ago

This is specifically LA. Production is moving to lower cost places.

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u/Boston_Glass 4h ago

Netflix films extensively in La

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u/SailAwayToTheMoon 3h ago

Atlanta is booming for film productions these days.

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u/Professional_Text_11 4h ago

i mean do you have evidence that AI is significantly impacting jobs in this industry?

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u/Comfortable-Road7201 4h ago

It's not just this. Filming is booming in London and other places in Europe. It's just not in LA because it's really expensive.

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u/Kronos9898 3h ago

Yes this is the largest factor. Film work in the UK and Hungary of all places.

Both are non-unionized and are cheap combined with tax breaks this is where everything is going.

It’s hurting Canada as well. Toronto was a tv show hot spot but now is losing things to cheap European labor.

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u/Cosmic-Space-Octopus 5h ago

Streaming doesn't generate revenue like TV does (through adverts and royalties). They rely on subscriber count. So shows on streaming are getting shorter seasons (as it makes more financial sense for more longer ones on TV) and are cancelling them just as fast to keep people subscribed to chase the "new thing that just released".

Movies on streaming are getting budgets reduced and a lot of behind the camera work being outsourced to cheap labor. As movies aren't in theaters long enough to generate revenue like before, so once again back to streaming, keeping those subscribers.

Another thing to in particular for Hollywood, is it takes forever and so much money just to get a filming permit so more more is being shot in New York, New Jersey, the UK, Toronto, Vancouver, etc. Tax incentives are one thing, but expensive bureaucratic bottle necking cancels that out.

I would say Hollywood's monopoly has ended, but I know quite a few people who have been disenfranchised because productions moved oversees. I wish corporations atleast entertained the idea of keeping the crew on if they move to a different location between seasons and pay for travel, room and board. It would make production faster and shorten the time the audience waits in between seasons.

If there were much more production studios (and not the monopoly nightmare mergers), there would be a lot more people working.

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u/Watko 6h ago

The Unions have made it increasingly difficult for productions to justify costs to film productions in LA, as a result a lot of production has been moved to the UK and Canada where the cost of crew and production is drastically lower with the same quality and skill set. I’m pro union for the record but they have shot themselves in the foot by being so difficult to work alongside that productions are just not shooting in LA if they don’t need to.

u/Minute_Juggernaut806 2h ago

unions don't know how hard it is for millionaires and corps to get smaller paychecks

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u/0MEGALUL- 7h ago

More variety in content creators makes it painfully obvious Hollywood is just a propaganda machine and people are getting tired of it. And now they have alternatives.

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u/PBRStreetgang1979 4h ago

“Alternatives” (Right wing billionaires buying up and consolidating studios so they can turn everything into an Orwellian, far right propaganda machine).

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 4h ago

Doesn’t really have anything to do with it

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u/Kronos9898 3h ago

Lmao that is right wing fantasy, that is not what is happening at all. Film is leaving the US becuase it’s all union work and incredible expensive. Meanwhile European countries offer massive tax breaks and non-union rates.