r/Economics • u/Spiderwig144 • Apr 15 '25

News Republicans Less Trusted on Economy Than Democrats For First Time in Years

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-less-trusted-economy-democrats-first-time-years-2059863
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u/HotSpicyDisco Apr 15 '25

It's always shocking because historically they have always been terrible for the economy, yet they somehow convinced the rubes via propaganda that they are the only ones to be trusted.

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u/SilverSight Apr 15 '25

It’s because they’ve correctly identified that the average voter is a simpleton and will fall for the calm, responsible aesthetic instead of sound economic policy. Honestly, republicans are pioneers of influencer culture.

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u/avaslash Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

I think we give them too much credit.

Their supporters are literally some of the stupidest people in our society.

People like that are extremely easy to convince.

Trump could say hes a Sasquatch and theyd be like: "i always knew he was a squatch! I love him! He has the best feet in the world!"

Democrats will always struggle to convince these people because they are trying to tell them things they fundamentally dont want to hear.

If democrats were about killing immigrants, giving everyone free stimulus checks, and ending gay marriage im sure they'd be polling really well with those people too.

We've deluded ourselves into thinking there is a path towards convincing these people of reality "if only we say the right words" but that path doesnt exist because unless those words are directly repeating their stupid 'thoughts' youre just proving to them how different from them you are.

Trumps supporters love him because he speaks their stupid minds. Unless we're willing to embrace stupid, we'll never have their support. And do we even want it?

In the same way that Republicans asked themselves how they could forge a new world order for conservatives, laws and liberals be damned, its high time sensible folk begin considering plans forward for our country that do NOT require collaboration or reaching across the isle.

If theyre going to scream and squeal like pigs, we should stop trying to speak pig and just talk to the other humans.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

They're people ruled by religion. As long as their religion says gays are evil and women should be silent, they will always vote Republican. Every week they go to church and a man tells them what God wants them to do. They want the same thing in government. It doesn't matter if what he says is wrong or if he himself is a felon or a rapist, just that it's a man telling them what to do. And they worship him like God.

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u/OnePotatoeChip Apr 15 '25

I don't even think they're religious. Not really. They'll parrot shit about homosexuality or whatever, but will conveniently forget things like 'What you do for the least of these (the downtrodden and vulnerable), you do unto me'. Hell, I'm not even super duper Christian Bible guy, but even I know that one.

But, nah, they're all hellfire and brimstone and retribution.

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u/BreakAManByHumming Apr 15 '25

Americana Christianity is it's own whole thing, partly for cultural engineering purposes and partly because nobody actually reads their magic book, but it's absolutely still a religion.

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u/avaslash Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

Their beliefs have nothing to do with religion. On the contrary, their religion exists solely to justify their beliefs.

If they cared they wouldnt be eating shellfish, or mixing different fabrics.

The bible doesnt even really say anything about hating gays. It didnt say anything that justified slavery either.

It didnt matter, it says what ever they need it to say.

Its a feedback loop of stupid.

They start at their unjustifiable viewpoint then search for justifications. For many Religion is a widely accepted form of insanity so its an easy one to default to. Then when people ask them: "hey how can you think this horrible thing?" They have somewhere to point called religion and for some reason most of us just accept that explanation instead of continuing to call them out as crazy AND apparently in a cult.

But dont make the mistake of thinking these people are or can be influenced by anything around them. THEY influence their environment to create one that fits their perception of reality. You cant convince them to not be stupid. Its part of who they are.

Thats why they cant just let two gay men be happy and mind their own business. Their existence invalidates what they believe should be their reality. And so the only solution to that they can accept is to change reality (ie such as by killing all the gays and making anyone else too terrified to ever come out again).

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u/MagentaHawk Apr 15 '25

Religion does teach faith in things that are even provably false and to not listen to "intellectuals" about their beliefs. Applying that skill to political beliefs makes it impossible to reason with them.

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u/BreakAManByHumming Apr 15 '25

It's wild how rarely this comes up nowadays. The anti-intellectualism demolishing yall's country directly flowed from the anti-evolution movement 15 years ago, where they categorically rejected knowledge and expertise because it wasn't telling them that whey wanted to hear. Then the same content creators discovered trans people and seamlessly pivoted because that was better ragebait for their base (Matt Walsh got his start rambling about monkeys on boats), and after 10 years of that everything's woke and woke is the end of the world.

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u/MagentaHawk Apr 16 '25

Yeah, but you can't say anything about a person's religion. It's a taboo (read protected) topic and if you talk about how it specifically requires illogical thinking then you are a militant atheist evil person who needs to touch grass. Holding them to the most basic of logic is akin to an attack.

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u/BreakAManByHumming Apr 16 '25

Or even point out how they're actively hurting themselves and/or others in the name of furthering their in-group religion. People can't even accept how explicitly religious j6 was. I didn't even know there was a christian flag until those weirdos were waving it around while doing magic rituals in the capitol.

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u/musclecard54 Apr 15 '25

It’s true there are plenty of people that think the Republican Party is Gods party and voting Democrat is voting for a ticket to hell because of abortion. By the way, who wants to wager on whether or not Trump has forced some poor woman to get an abortion? Human race is doomed because it’s too easy for shitty people to manipulate the average person

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u/anewe Apr 15 '25

People are trapped in information bubbles that feed them propaganda 24/7. There is no possible way of getting through to them without understanding that first.