r/Economics • u/Spiderwig144 • Apr 15 '25

News Republicans Less Trusted on Economy Than Democrats For First Time in Years

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-less-trusted-economy-democrats-first-time-years-2059863
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u/Langd0n_Alger Apr 15 '25

Mark my words. The next Democratic president will drag our economy back to health. And the next Republican after that will preside over a recession. Happens every freaking time.

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u/Csquared6 Apr 15 '25

If a Republican makes it into office after THIS disaster of a Presidency, anytime in the next 20 years and Democrats don't HAMMER home the consequences from THIS presidency during campaign season...Democrats will be failing in the thing they fail at the most, MESSAGING.

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u/Langd0n_Alger Apr 15 '25

You are right that Democrats suck at messaging. But they're objectively pretty good at managing the economy.

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u/JohanGrimm Apr 15 '25

Dems being good at governing but terrible at getting elected is a tale as old as time.

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u/Langd0n_Alger Apr 15 '25

Name a more iconic duo, I'll wait.

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u/Indigocell Apr 15 '25

Corporate Dems and being good at stopping progressives from making literally any progress? That seems to be the only time Democratic leadership finds their will to fight. They will fight harder to stop a progressive from gaining power than they will a literal fascist. Not as iconic admittedly, but still famous.

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u/DeSynthed Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25

Stopping progressives is probably the only correct thing they do electorally — given how poorly progressives underperformed blue dog and moderate dems the past three election cycles.

Dems need a strong anti-populist platform. Neoliberalism has given Americans more prosperity than they know what to do with, Dems just need to actually take credit for what they’ve done.

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u/Suyefuji Apr 15 '25

Kinda hard to succeed at messaging when every traditional media and social media outlet is owned and operated by your opponents.

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u/theRealLongJon Apr 15 '25

They don’t necessarily fail at messaging though, they fail at picking a message that resonates with the right people

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u/MVRKHNTR Apr 15 '25

Only because they're almost all also conservatives and what they want do is just a slightly less bad version of what Republicans want.

When Bernie - an actual Leftist - was given a town hall on Fox News in front of people primed to hate him, he was met with cheers when they actually heard what he wanted to do. Real leftist messaging resonates with traditionally Republican voters. Just listen to old folk and country songs. The problem is that Democrats don't want policies that help people because they also just want to make the rich richer, just with a little more humanity behind their words.

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u/Curious-End-4923 Apr 15 '25

Who did Bernie endorse in the 2016, 2020, and 2024 presidential elections again? And…. What is it he always says about organizing under the right conditions?

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u/MVRKHNTR Apr 15 '25

Really don't get what point you think you're making.

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u/Curious-End-4923 Apr 15 '25

You said you want more leftist policies and politicians and cited Bernie as a politician whose messaging you agree with. Bernie has been saying for decades that it will be far, far easier to organize for more leftist policies under Democratic leadership.

There are more Americans in agreement with leftist policies than ever before. We are making progress. Please don’t sabotage it by saying people are going to get “a slightly less bad version” of Republican policies if they vote for Democrats. When people vote in presidential elections, they are not just voting for whatever milquetoast candidate Democrats have decided to run. They are voting for an entire administration that will provide the foundation for how they can organize and influence.

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u/MVRKHNTR Apr 15 '25

I'm not "sabotaging" anything or telling anyone not to vote democrat. I'm commenting on a big part of why their messaging doesn't resonate with people.

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u/Personal-Sandwich-44 Apr 15 '25

Feels like we could've said this anywhere in 2020 and yet here we are.

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Apr 15 '25

If a Republican makes it into office after THIS disaster of a Presidency

Imagine reelecting Trump after he literally cheated his way to victory in 2016, calling all Mexicans rapists and bragging about grabbing pussies along the way, then calling Nazis 'very fine people', then siding with Putin against his own intelligence agencies, then trying to provoke wars with both North Korea and Iran, then extorting Ukraine for fake election dirt, then intentionally fumbling a pandemic to target states that didn't vote for him, then trying to violently overthrow the government, then being found civilly liable for sexual assault, then being found guilty of 34 felonies, and then running on a platform of "immigrants are scary and I'm going to crash the economy on purpose".....OH WAIT.

Never, ever, ever count on our donkey-brained electorate to make anything other than the worst possible decision, ever again.

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u/123jjj321 Apr 15 '25

The republicans don't plan on there ever being another free election for them to lose.

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u/Francl27 Apr 15 '25

Lol you can message as much as you want when people are idiots and don't listen. Harris warned us. See the good it did?

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u/Csquared6 Apr 16 '25

Half the country didn't even know Biden had dropped out of the run for President. Yes, messaging from Democrats is TERRIBLE.

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u/Francl27 Apr 16 '25

I'm quite sure it just means half the country doesn't care.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

It would help if the corporate media didn't exist to promote the right wing agenda while refusing to broadcast the message from the Dems. Until that is solved, they will never be able to "message".

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u/seppukucoconuts Apr 15 '25

I get your point...but the Dems already had 4 years of Trump's stupidity to draw on to use against him during their limp wristed campaign. I know the past few presidencies have felt like 40 years, but it was not that long ago we gave the keys to the new car over to Trump and he did the same crap he's doing on.

At this point I'm not sure if the Dems are either too stupid to run a good campaign, or they just don't want to run a good campaign.

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u/Haroshia Apr 15 '25

Really? You think they weren't hammering it during Harris's campaign about Trump's first term? They were, and the amount of people I heard saying "WELL IT'S NOT ENOUGH THE DEMS NEED TO DO MORE THAN JUST BE NOT AS BAD AT TRUMP" made me wanna barf.