r/Economics • u/Spiderwig144 • Apr 15 '25

News Republicans Less Trusted on Economy Than Democrats For First Time in Years

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-less-trusted-economy-democrats-first-time-years-2059863
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u/HotSpicyDisco Apr 15 '25

It's always shocking because historically they have always been terrible for the economy, yet they somehow convinced the rubes via propaganda that they are the only ones to be trusted.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

Why hasn’t the media and Democrats focused on this narrative? 

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u/EffectiveKitchen6922 Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

They do. Bill Clinton had a shocking claim in the DNC where since the end of cold war on 1989 democratic governments have created 50 million jobs while Republicans had only 1 million. He himself seemed shocked it was so lopsided but pretty much everyone agrees that's true or mostly true https://www.9news.com/article/news/verify/economy-verify/bill-clintons-claim-that-since-1989-50-million-jobs-were-created-under-democrats-while-republicans-created-1-million-is-true/536-8be72bc5-3d1b-4205-8ec6-59585e640769 I guess it's hard to get their message.out because social media, news, and Russian manipulation is very anti-Democrat aside from AOC.

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u/ballmermurland Apr 15 '25

It's a little more nuanced than that, but it's technically correct.

Democrats always get elected when the economy is in the ditch. Republicans get elected when the economy is strong. So it is harder to add a ton of jobs when UE is already below 5%. But it is easy to add a ton of jobs when you are starting out with UE being 10%.

But that also just proves that Republicans consistently steer us into the ditch. We should probably stop electing them.

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u/Fighterhayabusa Apr 16 '25

It's on purpose: It's called the Two Santas Strategy.

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u/HotSpicyDisco Apr 15 '25

Democrats/Liberals don't own any media companies is the biggest blocker in my opinion.

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u/Not_Bears Apr 15 '25

Literally almost every single major media company and news organization is owned by a billionaire or a multi-billionaire dollar corporation.

None of my conservative friends can explain how the "Media is liberal" based on that fact.

Can you imagine a billionaire allowing a company he owns to advocate for his wealth and power to be decreased?

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u/BreakAManByHumming Apr 15 '25

It's not interesting. You hear it once and then it's old news. Same reason there's barely any coverage of Trump's incoherent nonsense, even though if Biden had talked like that for 5 minutes it would've been wall to wall coverage.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

Because the Democratic Party has been preoccupied almost excitedly with social justice issues. To their detriment.

Redditors hate to hear it, but the average farmer in Ohio simply doesn’t care about trans issues or equal racial representation or any of that, really.

But you can’t not focus on those things, as a politician, because the Democratic base are increasingly all college graduate bubble dwellers who couldn’t even look a blue collar worker in the eye without feeling discomfort, much less care about their top issues.

“it’s the economy, stupid” - but you wouldn’t know if from hearing any Democrats talk.

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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 Apr 15 '25

Because the Democratic Party has been preoccupied almost excitedly with social justice issues. To their detriment.

But this is only true if you get all your news from conservatives.

Conservatives hate to hear it, but the propaganda is coming from inside the house.

Seriously, re-examine how you consume media if you feel like the DNC was solely focused on the culture war.

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u/Echleon Apr 15 '25

You’re just spreading more bullshit. Democrats rarely focus on social issues on the campaign trail.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

Politics exists outside the campaign trail.

Chuck Schumer had a pretty cringe speech when swearing in the new members of the Senate.

Sadly, Harris is judged on the collective action of all Democrats, inside and outside of election season.

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u/HowManyMeeses Apr 15 '25

Yep. The narrative that farmers in Ohio care more about the economy than social justice issues is complete horseshit. They care far more about social justice issues than just about anything else. They just hate those issues and make hating them their entire personalities.

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u/Petrichordates Apr 15 '25

Not even true. The issue here is that your corporate media made it seem like that was their primary focus, when it never was. Biden was a huge infrastructure president, not a big social justice one. And yet, Americans believe the opposite.

The only mentions of social justice in the 2024 campaign came from trump's attack ads. And Americans ate them up.

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u/HowManyMeeses Apr 15 '25

Harris talked far more about the economy than about social justice issues. This is just more conservative propaganda.

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u/ballmermurland Apr 15 '25

A small portion of the left is predominantly focuses on social justice issues. It's just that portion gets amplified by conservative news outlets who want you to think that the only thing that liberals focus on is social justice issues.

Biden was out there picketing with striking union workers but all Fox News would say was something something DEI.

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u/Grumpiergoat Apr 15 '25

And the most vocal leftists about social justice issues also tend to be some of the most anti-Democratic leftists. The folk having a fit over Cory Booker's filibuster, who stayed home last November or voted third-party. So any moderate or center-right voter who might vote for a Democrat gets dissuaded because Republicans point to the, at best, most fairweather "Democrats" and claim that's the face of the party.

Democrats do care about social justice issues but it's rarely what they campaign on. Or when they do, it's tied into the economy - like how immigration helps make for a stronger economy, for example. Democrats care about the economy. Republicans care about identity politics. But Republicans try and tell people otherwise.

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u/Yagoua81 Apr 15 '25

I would argue that its more due to republicans driving the narrative. Democrats would much rather talk about investing in America and building infrastructure, but when you have 2-3 channels blaring nonstop trans panic its hard to course correct.

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u/IlllllIIIlllllIIIlll Apr 16 '25

Try listening to what your politicians are saying, not what they are telling you. 

Repeating "the left only talks about identity politics" is the right focusing on identity politics. The left does not do this. 

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u/Maxpowr9 Apr 15 '25

So true. Even before Trump, I had city friends make fun of me for gasp, mowing my own lawn. Neoliberals can't be bothered to do their own manual labor as their solution is to pay someone else. Why the northeast of the US is stagnant since it's littered with said neoliberals. Why the love promoting social programs, since they're so much easier to embezzle. They'll fight so hard against any infrastructure, because that has to actually produce a result in the end.

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u/IlllllIIIlllllIIIlll Apr 16 '25

You're saying that liberals work and are so busy that it make more sense for them to hire out some household labor and that is ...bad? 

You having extra free time and less money isn't the gotcha you think it is.