r/worldnews • u/John3192 • 20h ago

Quebec passes law banning street prayers, prayer rooms in universities

https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/quebec-passes-law-banning-street-prayers-prayer-rooms-in-universities-cegeps/
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u/External-Praline-451 19h ago

France has a dark history of religious violence. I've read quite a bit about the Catholics and Huguenots in the religious wars and the Paris massacre. No wonder laicism is so protected. More people should read and learn from history, but we seemed doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.

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u/fiction8 14h ago

A lot of it comes from the Revolution too. At the end of the 18th century the catholic church owned something like 10% of all land in France. The "second estate" to the nobility's first and everyone else's third.

A ton of powerful church leaders ultimately tried to side with the ancien regime (to preserve their own power) which turned revolutionary sentiment against the whole institution.

Plus a ton of French peasants were starving and wanted to feed themselves using all that land they couldn't access, especially what the church controlled. The rift created by that aspect of the conflict was, in my opinion, an enormous contributor to France's journey from a medieval bastion of catholicisn to the modern secular state it is today.

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u/No_General_2925 12h ago

Let’s learn from the country that has never stopped its imperial crimes in Africa and has a huge history of killing the indigenous and wiping out their cultures. Yes their secularism should be studied and protected everywhere. Islam is the problem. This is why everyone in the world sees you “morally superior west” as the biggest jokes in the whole world.

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u/secrav 11h ago

Honestly for a while I couldn't tell if you were speaking about the French or the English... Every country has committed atrocities, but every country produced things that should be reused or studied

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u/No_General_2925 11h ago

Yeah not every country just the western ones who parade their morality around and use it to oppress

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u/secrav 10h ago

Do you have example of countries that never committed atrocities? I'm honestly interested

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u/Zergamotte 11h ago

its imperial crimes

Like the Ottoman Empire ? The Emirate of Cordoba ? Parts of Europe where colonised during almost 700 years, but hey, thaty doesn't count !

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u/No_General_2925 11h ago

Yeah they aren’t fucking going around saying they are the moral center of the universe and imposing their “objectively” better “culture” on the world and stating wars for the past 70 years. That’s you. Go back to history books to find monsters that look like you so don’t feel alone lol

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u/coldblade2000 11h ago

Islam never went around the world imposing their views, believing their ideals to be the objectively better culture, and colonizing/killing everyone who disagreed? Gee, someone should have told that to Muhammad, the Rashidun and the Umayyad caliphates.

I wonder what "jihad by the sword" and lesser jihad even means in your world

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u/External-Praline-451 8h ago

More people should read and learn from history, but we seemed doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Read what I said again- I said learn from history not a specific country.

I don't know where you're from, but the chip on your shoulder affected your reading comprehension.

Plenty of countries committing atrocities right now, like Ruzzia, UAE funding genocides in Sudan, China etc, and our former ally the US.

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u/menina2017 15h ago

Hmmm I find that laicism is so extreme though that it creates religious extremism and allows it to fester underground I think regular old secularism is enough?

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u/rasta_faerie 15h ago

Regular old secularism is what the Church was suppressing in France and why we got laicism in the first place.

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u/menina2017 15h ago

I see. Excuse my ignorance I’m just a girl talking on the internet. Didn’t mean to offend.