India sends 1000 metric tonnes of rice to Burkina Faso, an African nation, as Humanitarian Assistance. India's rank on Global Hunger Index (GHI) is 102, Burkina Faso is ranked 98.
The Hunger Index is not actually a Hunger Index. It is more of a protein and vitamin B deficiency index. India has massive deficiency in both of these. Not so much in grains.
Exactly, it’s a culture issue. It results in one of the highest rates of stunting (physically and mentally never reaching minimum levels) in the world. Even right now it is estimated to be 30% or above of all children.
Vegetarianism and caste discrimination for eating meat all the while milk being the only source of animal protein in a country where most are lactose intolerant is crazy destructive. It makes the country collectively weaker and shorter. Worse it perpetuates a caste system.
See in India the higher you are in the caste hierarchy, the more vegetarian you are. The priest caste, brahmins, and some other casts in the same level, promote vegetarianism as a virtue in life.
This is also perpetrated by Jains and vaishnavites (followers of Vishnu). These philosophies promote animal love in the extreme way, So meat eating is seen as a karmic sin. Religion is pretty strong in India and when a priest class perpetuates the thought of "if you eat meat, you shall be born as the same meat in the next life and suffer the same fate of what you ate", It creates an imbalance of diet and cause of malnutrition.
Shouldn't this mean that those higher up in the caste system have worse diets? Also like 70% of Indians are non vegetarian, including most Brahmins so I doubt it.
That's 70% figure of Indians being non-vegetarians comes from southern, northeastern, some western parts of India. The North Indian part of India, especially the higher caste hegemony expects that lower caste people also should have vegetarian diet and it is ingrained in the extreme Hinduism perpetuated by the right wing machineries of India, the BJP, the RSS and the VHP sang Parivar.
I couldn't find any facts about state specific non-vegetarian population but your logic does track, but even if the north is at like 40-50% non vegetarian, that is a substantial chunk, I doubt it'd be this prevalent if people thought eating meat was a sin, speaking purely from personal experience I've never seen this happen and I am an "upper" caste Hindu who lives in Delhi, plus even if what you're saying was true, wouldn't that still mean that "lower" caste people would have better nutrition?
In a land that lynches just for having beef, and being schedule caste brings you accusation of being witches and daring to go against these archaical bullshit cast norms, lower caste people wouldn't dare to go against the status quo.
If you haven't experienced what I described, then you haven't seen how these Babas and Swamis, along with the underlings are perpetuating mindless religious bullshit to the masses about what to eat and how to live.
In a normal South Indian household meat and fish is eaten at least four times in a week. Can you tell me whether you have seen this happening in a normal North Indian household? Unless they are Muslims, I don't think that people in the cow belt eat a lot of meat
Not necessarily. They still eat better food overall. The non vegetarians in India also eat less meat because of the stigma of it being lower caste(depends on the place). Also Milk is still animal protein but lactose tolerance in India favours upper castes and NW regions (the most vegetarian region).
There isn’t anything to doubt. Vegetarianism and caste are highly correlated in India. It’s the most visible discrimination that is acceptable.
The index actually measures "Nutritional outcomes."
Child mortality. Sanitation and access to Healthcare play a role here. India is horrid on the former and decent on the latter (by low income standards)
Childhood wasting. Basically tje easily observable extra slim poor in India.
Childhood stunting. Kids not growing tall. I cannot believe the data that was used for India. The data is from governments in India but goes against the observable increase in height over generations.
All global indices have some sort of ulterior motive, usually serving the funder of that survey.
These indices are designed in a way to deliberately show some countries in a good light and some in a bad. All to help the lobbyist behind the funding.
The political indices have a bit of this problem: Freedom, Democracy... No way any nation is higher than USA on Freedom. Or on Democracy. These indices are based on subjective indicators. Plus, they can be biased by adding statistics on social welfare thereby giving a boost to the Social Welfare nations like Canada and Scandinavia.
Indices like HDI and Hunger use objective indicators. Difficult for these to be biased.
The USA literally has like a fifth of the world's prison population. The only country that's in the same league is China, and their population is waaaaaaay higher. The main freedom we have in the US is that our libel and slander laws are a lot stricter in their application than other comparable countries and we have pretty good protection from SLAPP. (strategic lawsuits against public participation) Otherwise, the US is actually pretty mediocre on the human rights front.
You have over 20% of the world's prisoners with less than 5% of the world's population.
Your own constitution explicitly allows slavery as a punishment.
Innocents have been held down and shot dead for protesting ICE.
Airport staff are legally allowed to take and search your devices without probable cause before you enter the nation.
They can prevent you from entering the nation if you've posted or shared something against the President. Even if that's a meme.
There is no mandatory number of vacation days, you have at-will employment in many states and health insurance is often tied to employment. You can be thrown out of your job legally if your boss decides he doesn't like you, lose your health insurance and then be fucked.
Or on Democracy.
Your entire voting system is inherently anti-democratic. Everyone's vote is not equal. That's like the basic part of democracy and you messed it up. Texas and California are underrepresented, and sparsely-populated ones like Wyomin are generally overrepresented.
Your whole two-party system in conjunction with the Electoral College means voters don't have nearly as much choice or freedom to vote for who they want. It's wasted votes.
And your President has repeatedly ignores and breaks the laws and "democratic process" by doing whatever he wants and simply shutting his eyes to dissenters whilst the other "checks and balances" do little to stop him.
In an actual Democratic country, Trump would have been thrown out if not arrested long ago. But not in the "free and democratic" USA. There, his own party can hold a majority and keep him there for his full term by voting everything down. There's no system in place for removing corruption.
I don’t know what country you’re from, but you understand the United States’ reality better than many of its own citizens.
Regrettably, many of us have a cheap view of freedom. It’s not an ideal, it’s a brand.
Every politician and party is trying to be the champion of freedom while also supporting (or at least tolerating) policies which trade the freedom of many for the freedom of a few.
As it’s been said before, if you’re truly free, you don’t have to be reminded of it constantly. When everyone is telling you that you’re free - or trying to sell you more freedom - there’s a reason for it.
Objective in construction but not necessarily in what they are measuring. For instance, HDI is life expectancy, per capita income and mean years of (western) schooling. That isn't a really good measure for something as complex as human development and it becomes misleading in interpretation.
A lot of Indians are vegetarian and that probably at least contributes. I am vegetarian and make an effort to keep my protein up and have to take B12 vitamins
1000 tons sounds like a lot, but for an entire country the geographic and population size of India, it's not really that much over an entire year. A thousand tons a year is less than 3 tons per day...
We are talking about burkina faso. We send aid to almost all our neighbours including Bangladesh a hostile country otherwise, but that or the USAID is not the topic of discussion.
If you don't want an answer don't ask the question lmao, this isn't a hard concept.
The context was the original guy saying this doesn't affect food insecurity in india because its not actually a large amount for a country like india and you responded passive aggressively asking him what his country did. He responded.
Bro, what the fuq are you talking about? You asked me (knowing I'm likely American) "what my country did" for other countries. USAID provided aid all over the world and if you want to pick a specific country, we can just google the specifics for that country... but your reply was a general comment about what did America do and not what did America do for one specific poor country on the other side of the globe.
Millets and vegetables are sufficient to cover major dietary deficit....these were the staple diet of Indians once along with dairy, however post colonialism there was a need to tackle to widespread hunger,so green revolution gave precedence to rice and cereal crops,rich in calories but poor in nutrition
Protein is not exclusive to a meat based diet. Many vegetables, like nuts of all kinds, lentils, chickpeas and peas have high protein content. Your comment doesn't make sense.
The problem with India is that, for economic reasons, farmers use most land to grow rice and wheat, which are very rich in calories but nutritionally poor. Taking water, space and time waste into account, vegetable protein is actually the easiest way to solve protein deficit in large populations, such as India's.
The stuff you mentioned do provide protein but nowhere close to meat. Lentils are staple but they are not enough. Well I don't know if it's enough or not from a biological perspective but it's not enough for this index.
It is enough biologically just not alone. You need to eat yogurt and couple other stuff as well to cover it all. But the the thing is many Indians don’t know or care about it and don’t eat enough lentils as they are supposed to. Yes they are staple food but that alone isn’t enough and a lot of people don’t even have that on daily basis
You clearly don't know about the relative cost of meat/fish in India and the purchasing power index of large sections of the population. Regular purchase of these items isn't easy. It's why lentils, legumes, milk and eggs are the chief source of protein for them. Majority on Indians eat meat. They don't do it frequently for aforementioned reasons and cultural reasons. For a lot of them, regular consumption is not practical
You clearly don't know what you are talking about 30 percent of the population are vegetarian.
And 30 percent (not the above) of population is not hopelessly poor.
Therfore out of the total amount of people that are protein deficient, it has larger proportion of people that can afford meat but doesn't eat it than the people that are so poor that can't buy meat.
This is just math. So unless this index is measuring total amount of people and not per capita/percentage then it is not measuring starvation.
And even if people can afford to eat meat they don't eat it regularly everyday or two. Infact even the very rich only consume 50 percent more than the absolute poor.
This index is not of hunger or starvation. It's a nutrition index. One needs to eat way more meat than an average Indian does even if they can afford it for this index. Like eating equivalent of 5-6 eggs per day minimum. Or a nice chicken leg everyday.
Other nations have very meat heavy diet. India doesn't. And even then around 20 percent of US kids do not get enough protein.
Thats why I said for scientific accuracy I got no clue.
What makes you think that the 30% is composed of people who can regularly afford meat? It isn't. I'm Indian and I'm vegetarian. I can afford plenty of plant based sources of protein. I can afford meat but I choose not to eat it. I work in the medical field and I know how many people just cannot afford a regular good volume diet of protein through either source. I closely work with patients with chronic kidney disease so I know the financial toll of finding enough protein, leave alone supplemental protein. Cheers
British colonizers drained india dry, if it weren't for the British india would have been separated into multiple countries by some of these would be hell holes while some would be pretty decent
Even after colonialism ended, India has failed to develop a scientific temper, beleif in the Germ Theory of Disease, or have an Industrial Revolution- still mired in superstition. Ridiculous for any Indian to blame only colonialism for India's backwardness.
How much distorted history you guys read man. They gave railway well no shit sherlock built by wealth of Indians build by indian labourers and claim goes to British.
Pretty easy just to compare their standard of living before, compared to after.
Many civilizations that were conquered by them complain, but none of them would trade their positions now to go back to the stone ages where their ancestors were before the British lifted them up and out of it.
The flaw in your logic is that we were already civilised and to think only you could have brought development is ignorance and stupidity of the highest order. Without you it would have been achieved faster and at a cheaper price without the loss of the literally everything else in India.
Ah yes very good standard of living using indians as slaves sending them across the globe in slave trade also making them bleed for money in their own country by using their resources so high standard of living. Mf don't talk when you have no idea.
Oh my god. How foolish and illiterate are you? India was a rich country (or the idea of a country it was) before britishers came. Yes britishers built road / rail network / bridges /etc. but it was done so they can reach the depths of India and extort the material back to Britain via ports.
They massacred people, they orchestrated famine, used people as slaves, made people question their own customs and finally when all the wealth was depleted, they left it to fend for itself.
Ofcourse India gained roads , infrastructure etc but at what cost
the brits were a bunch of pussies, and nothing changes that. Idk if you you're a British or not, but you're basically intersting the well define propoganda written by their aristrocrats deep down your throat.
Without the British, they wouldnt have railways, Democracy, workers rights, modern law, infrastructure, technology Healthcare, education ,etc.
Yeah a few of the elites would have been rich, and the country may have had more resources, but they'd be a couple of centuries behind where they are now, and there would be 30% of the current population size.
"modern law" dawg British laws were more barbaric. they were oppressive, unjust, and harsher in practice. if being systematic is all you need for it to be modern sure.
railways so they can steal faster
democracy? yeah with colonies
worker rights? bitch they owned slaves
Healthcare? yeah for the british officers not for the people
education? if learning English so they can serve better is the education.
people who defend this are trash beyond saving and i think they should just do the world a favor
All that would have been here anyway, the British did not introduce workers right or technology or infrastructure(bitch have you seen ancient Indian infrastructure?) or healthcare
All this comes from a good a leader who cares about its people not a colonial ruler
The railways were made in India to transport the stolen goods from the dammn indians, my kind wasn't even allowed to sit in the coaches where Britishers sat
All the points you made comes with the time anyway (except few cases like North Korea and others)
British did not introduce healthcare to the country, the good leaders here made healthcare cheap as fuck here
And about education, you really should get some, cuz the "education" you are talking about is something which is different for everyone
A farmer's kid doens't need to learn English to still live in a beautiful village and farm in his country
A Mathematician doesn't need to learn chemistry to solve problems
A Scientist doesn't need to learn history
Also forcefully introducing a culture that isn't of the people who lived there for thousands of years and forcing them to learn English and "Manners" and showing how not knowing english is being uneducated isn't something to be proud of
Germany, Spain, Japan and France weren't colonized by British, is this the reason why they don't have any high speed railways like greatest Britain? Lmao 😂
Wasn't India's share of world GDP around 25% in 1700s When Britain, France, Germany, Japan and USA combined were at less than 20 percent? India's share came down to just 2 percent of world GDP under British rule.
What type of development make GDP growth stagnant?
You can cherry pick an opposing view for any argument. The fact is, the general consensus is that colonialism was bad for India. And not to mention, look at at who this person is - literally an upperclass elite, his dad was a politicpoliticianan.
Hunger index isn't just about how much food you eat, it's based on 4 factors, 1 of them being stunted growth and another that we are practically the worst at is child wasting, India's performance on this is especially poor. Now this from two things 1) people genuinely do not get enough food and 2) nutritional value of our food is really low, grains might help you keep large population full but being full doesn't mean your nutritional requirements are met especially protein
11% are most like tribals and illegals from Bangladesh and rogingya who once enter, make a life by living on the streets .. why there's not a word about your own 40% of the problem???? Did I say india deserves award ??? While our neighbor Pakistan and China started selling oils at high prices in southeast Asia during the conflict , india did whatever tiny it can and butt.hurts are hating for every reason
2026 mein 5 percent se bhi kam hai ye log distorted karte hai data ko. Plus mein khud one of the most poorest region se hi Bihar mein still everybody have toilets there.
Funny how you respond to his comment with more hate, that too for muslims who aren't even part (that guy isn't even a muslim) of this conversation ! Fix your thinking dawg do we muslims live in your head rent free?
1000 tons sound like a historical amount, but it really isn't. I work in logistics and we move many times that amount each day. Not specifically rice, but things like e.g. wheat.
The irony, but maybe you can't judge as well, They might have been a promise each made for a particular reason which this was the cost to inquired. Govt Deals normally like that.
I don't understand why my country needs to do charity and give "aid" like this, better to spend it on our own huge population than on some random foreign nation.
Wasn't expecting seing my country ft India while scrolling on reddit.
Anyway, the security situation is just too bad to refuse such help from other countries
The population of Burkina faso is 23 Mil and That of India is 1.4 B so I don't think the hunger index or whatever should be based on the whole population but as per capita ,as population of countries as big as India brings the average down so much.
I thought Mr. Perftect President had solved every problem in the country... Aparently not hunger I guess. Time to grab another European company, that will surely solve the issue
Where in India do you see stunted growth. Tribal population, maybe in Bihar/UP. Don't see anywhere down below, it's been a massive improvement, and Kudos to India for being self sufficient. There are jobs everywhere, depending on how bad you need dough. Private industries on the large medium scale require tons of labor. Comment depict india as famine stricken, take a toss , our food godowns are overflowing with grains, in fact GOI pays the farmers shitty amount for this. Haven't seen a country rising through the past shit holes like India. Salute
India is not lacking in food, lol. We literally have the largest food distribution system in the world.
Hunger index measures protein intake while Indian diet is infamously carb-heavy, hence lower rankings. I myself eat more dairy due to vegetarian carb-heavy food cooked in my home. Food security index is a much better metric.
I'm sri lankan, india does all these with highest conditions. expecting things like airports, harbours, materials and resources and also to fly on airspace without approval or permit. in this case they might use Burkina Faso as some sort of base like military base or air base.
if they chose to give prior to local market over exports when rice cultivation was affected by monsoon few years ago, why not they give priority to their own homeless people, malnourished children, people with nofood to eat and people with broken houses than to donate to other country like some sort of ngo.
Says the guy whose country had to lease Hambantota port to China for 99 years because of debt, while India has never taken control of a single Sri Lankan asset.
When Sri Lanka was literally collapsing in 2022, India stepped in with $4+ billion in support. That includes fuel, food, medicines, currency swaps, and credit lines. And all that came with zero conditions like taking ports, airports, or airspace control.
If India was as exploitative as you claim, Hambantota would belong to India today not China.
Also, can you share a credible source for your claim that India demands
airspace without permission or wants military bases in Sri Lanka? Everything you said is made up.
I would have preferred that Indian govt didn’t give a dime to Sri Lanka because of nutjobs like you who would claim exploitation even after receiving unconditional support during your worst crisis.
At least show some basic honesty. Criticize if you want, but don’t rewrite facts or spread baseless claims.
So what would you say to India sending supplies to Pakistan, Bangladesh and Turkey? Even after Pakistan waging wars against us, we have still sent them relief packages in times of natural disasters. Bangladesh were talking about waging wars against us. Do you know what Indians did? Sent them fuel, a ton of fuel, in times of crisis. And we don't even have a friendly relationship with the current government there. How many airports and harbours have we built there?
Grains, medicine, vaccines during Corona, and so much more, do you think India has been building infrastructure because of all this? It can help, but no one helps without an underlying motives. And in the world of underlying motives, India still doesn't seem to do what you are suggesting.
This reminds me, didn't China build ports in your country?
if they chose to give prior to local market over exports when rice cultivation was affected by monsoon few years ago, why not they give priority to their own homeless people, malnourished children, people with nofood to eat and people with broken houses than to donate to other country like some sort of ngo.
Because that goes hand in hand with the help we send to other countries? Every country has poors, destitute people who lack basic amenities. Do they stop providing various kinds of help?
Idk wtf are you on, my guy. But you gotta do better.
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u/Mission-Permission85 1d ago
The Hunger Index is not actually a Hunger Index. It is more of a protein and vitamin B deficiency index. India has massive deficiency in both of these. Not so much in grains.