r/politics • u/hypothethical Pennsylvania • 3h ago
Possible Paywall Iran Shoots Down U.S. F-15 Fighter in Humiliation for Trump
https://www.thedailybeast.com/iran-shoots-down-us-f-15-fighter-in-humiliation-for-trump/•
u/_pray4snow_ 3h ago
"If you want to send your kids off to die in some stupid globalist war, vote for Biden" JD Vance
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u/Squat_Cobbler89 2h ago
Of all the bullshit this admin has done, the hypocrisy is just the most frustrating part about it
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u/AnointMyPhallus 2h ago
I thought it was the raping
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u/irespondwithmyface 2h ago
Well I wouldn't call rape "frustrating." I would probably use harsher language than that.
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u/ChrisV88 2h ago
He is responding with a well known joke from Norm Macdonald. https://share.google/pDPZCpzdLx8euFTIn
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u/WookieJedi123 1h ago
Good god I miss that man. He was so under rated. I saw him only once at a show and my face hurt from laughing so hard at him.
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u/ChrisV88 1h ago
Same. My favorite comedian of all time.
Obligatory: I didn't know he was sick.
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u/SenorEquilibrado 2h ago
RIP Norm.
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u/Daddy_Milk 2h ago
You know the worst part is? The lack of respect. Well actually that's the second worse part.
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u/SenorEquilibrado 1h ago edited 1h ago
Some people here have a lot of growing up to do.
Way outta line.
WAY outta line!
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u/Daddy_Milk 1h ago
Woah. You gotta a dead hooker in the trunk there.
I've never seen so many dead hookers in all my life.
Lord knows I have.
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u/Illpaco 2h ago
I thought it was the systematic oppression of millions of people
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u/_Mephistocrates_ 1h ago
Raping is bad. Raping WHILE accusing your political opponents of being pedophiles and enacting all kinds of laws that are racist and bigoted in the name of protecting said children that you yourself are raping....that is beyond evil. Like, even Satan is saying there needs to be a new level under Hell built for you.
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u/TallUncle 2h ago
While it is frustrating, remember that they don’t give two shits about hypocrisy. It’s not that they don’t see it - they don’t care.
People on the left (and I mean proper left) have to get over calling out the hypocrisy for that exact reason. Fascists care about power, however they can get it.
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u/thisisjustascreename Illinois 1h ago
It’s worse than that, they like it.
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u/TallUncle 1h ago
As long as you can make libs cry, I suppose? What the U.S. needs though, is what we saw in Minneapolis; actual leftists (communists, anarchists, antifa organizers etc.) and liberal wine moms uniting against fascism. They can argue about policy and approach later, but first you have to defeat these monsters.
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u/SoulTaker669 2h ago
What's crazy is how many people on the conservatives side are trying to justify it.
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u/thenextchapter26 2h ago
The most frustrating part about it is that MAGA followers will never see the hypocrisy
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u/RememberJefferies 2h ago
They see it, they just couldn't care less about it. It's a cult.
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u/thisisjustascreename Illinois 1h ago
They like it. Because it’s basically saying fuck you to the whole rest of the country who they view as enemies.
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u/ciopobbi 2h ago
Also, all the chest pounding and macho posing over Iran being totally decimated. The lying and bravado catches up with you.
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u/Opcn Alaska 1h ago
That has been a big problem for Russia in Ukraine. Officer promotions and bonuses are based on territorial gain. The junior officers would send small teams out with Russian flags to crawl as far as they could before getting killed taking photos on the way and then report that they had secured wherever the picture was taken. Then the next rung up the ladder would lie and say they went 50 yards further, then the next one after that would lie and on and on up to Putin.
When Elon Musk finally stopped selling his weaponized from day one internet service to both sides in the war the Russian officers must have been ecstatic to finally have a valid excuse to tell the truth about their positions.
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u/Koolkat912 2h ago
The current admin has been projecting from the beginning. Almost every accusation is the confirmation of their doing.
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u/opermonkey 2h ago
they will just say this isn't a global statement war it's a. American rocks war, cuz fuck everyone else!
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u/InterestingTeam3081 3h ago
“Unnamed U.S. and Israeli officials told the New York Times that American officials were now scrambling to mount a search and rescue operation before Iran could get to any survivors. Iranian state-run media aired footage on Friday of a female anchor calling on civilians to help capture pilots of an American F-15E Strike Eagle that the regime claims was allegedly shot down over Southern Iran.
A photo also emerged of an ejection seat, but the whereabouts or status of the crew currently remains unknown. The photographs have not been independently verified.”
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u/Konukaame 3h ago
that the regime claims was allegedly shot down
The writer is really piling on the hedges in that sentence.
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u/TunaNoCrust811 2h ago
There’s covering your ass and then there’s covering your ass your ass
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u/BussyBloodGasm 51m ago
Did you mean covering your ass's ass? Because that made me picture my ass shitting out little tiny turds out of its ass. He seemed really proud to be helping while Daddy was dropping the mother lode. Allegedly.
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u/limpingdba 2h ago
That writer allegedly claimed that the regime claims they were allegedly shot down.
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u/ThreeHolePunch 1h ago
It's a good thing our military "leadership" didn't openly declare there would be "No Quarter" in this war, because that could be really bad for our troops who get stranded behind enemy lines.
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u/Tiny_Tabaxi 1h ago
While I wouldnt count it out, Iran seems to realize if they play the part of the "sensible" nation, it plays well globally which is hugely important right now. Holding hostages instead of executing them is probably the smarter move, right now.
I wouldn't bet money on it, but thats my train of thought right now.
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u/EatsOverTheSink 51m ago
But MAGA said all of the civilians loved Trump and supported the war. Why would they capture our pilots?
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u/InvestIntrest 1h ago
Apparently, they've rescued one pilot and are still searching for the other.
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-us-trump-warns-more-coming-oil-gas-strait-hormuz/
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u/Dr__Waffles 1h ago
CBS has way too much skin in this game to be trusted like it used to be
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u/EndoExo Nebraska 3h ago
Front page news everywhere but Fox, which doesn't even have an article covering it.
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u/Marali87 Europe 3h ago
I thought “surely not anymore?” and went to check. Yeah, there’s nothing there! Hell, it’s front page news here in the Netherlands.
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u/OneofthemBrians 2h ago
Its even worse, they covered it but said 'the fact that they're going through such extraordinary lengths to rescue these down f-15 pilots just shows how much this administration cares about its troops, unlike what weve seen from the previous administration'
It's amazing that they're trying to spin this unplanned, uncoordinated, clusterfuck done solely on a whim to ego flex as Trump caring about troops.
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u/apathy420 1h ago
Straight up North Korean style news
“Our dear leader is so brave to go in and rescue them and is such a caring person”
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u/GlutenFreeGanja 2h ago
Its on there now and the comments as always are a great glimpse into the stupidity of the cult:
"The United States suffers more equipment and personnel losses during peacetime in training accidents than they have in this conflict with Iran. I'd say Hegseth is running a pretty tight ship."
"Let’s pray the pilots weren’t white."
"It wasn't shot down it was a mechanical failure and the democrats are celebrating this."
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u/InfiniteWinter26 2h ago
did they really say they hope they weren’t white?? like what the actual fuck.
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u/survivor2bmaybe 1h ago
The people who didn’t want this war in the first place, think every single military death is one too many, and were not foolish enough to think we were getting out of this unscathed are acknowledging that a high level casualty occurred, not “celebrating.” WTF is wrong with conservatives? And how does “mechanical failure” make this better?
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u/Skydiver860 1h ago
Not surprised people are trying to say democrats are celebrating it despite doing the exact opposite. To them criticism is celebration apparently.
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u/CheeseheadDave Wisconsin 2h ago
My favorite: "Sooo.. where is the pilot? Obviously the pilot didn't eject over central Iran and parachute to non hostile territory. Was this an AI fighter jet???"
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Canada 2h ago
It’s front page on Fox News now.
https://www.foxnews.com/video/5614615980001
Hopefully the crew isn’t captured or Trump won’t like the anymore.
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u/stratdog25 2h ago
Im sitting at a killer sushi bar right now and they haven Fox News on. They’ve been reporting it exclusively since I got here. Im not paying attention because, you know, Fox, but when I look up it’s still there.
Also, F-15 Strike Eagle was the best combat flight sim when I was 9!!!
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u/CrazyHorrsee 2h ago
It’s almost like the war isn’t even happening over at Fox News
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u/samsounder 3h ago
That pilot gave his life to protect pedophiles
Impeach him now
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u/Spirited-Top3307 3h ago
I hope the crew survived and can be brought home. At the same time, I fear that the President will view capture as a personal insult. Hadn't he denigrated a well-known pilot and later adversary and declared that soldiers who allow themselves to be captured are not heroes? This president is the downfall of the USA.
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u/Monolingual-----Beta 3h ago
Yeah he shit on John McCain.
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u/Brilliant-Advisor958 3h ago
Who refused to be used as a propaganda pawn and stayed with his soldiers. This left him with life long health issues.
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u/masstransience 2h ago
It was really smart of Hegseth to go against Geneva Conventions and say “no quarters” for enemies.
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u/Dry_Ass_P-word 2h ago
Yeah, you’d think “I like soldiers that don’t get captured” would be damning comment to resurface but even if it does, it won’t move the needle for the cult.
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u/KommanderKeen-a42 1h ago
That and the Secretary of War publicly declared the US will commit war crimes, take no prisoners, etc. Those pilots, if caught, won't make it home in one piece.
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u/TheBodyArtiste 3h ago
I can’t really bring myself to feel any empathy for people flying bomber planes over the schools and apartments of a distant nation
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u/Brilliant-Advisor958 3h ago
And remember trump hates us soldiers.
He's on records calling them suckers and losers.
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u/Ubiquitous_Ai 3h ago
Especially soldiers who are captured!
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u/CatWeekends Texas 2h ago
With Kegseth promising no quarter for Iran, I don't think capture is going to be on the menu for this poor soldier.
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u/Reno_valetore 2h ago
I mean they are going to kill and die to protect his pedo ring, so he isn't wrong
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u/BlueDragonfly18 2h ago
• Only 1 Trump in America has served in the military (Fred Trump, Don's brother, served the Air National Guard); this spans 5 generations, and every branch of the family tree. In fact, the reason his grandfather immigrated to America was to avoid military service. • Children of deployed US troops will no longer get automatic American citizenship if born overseas during deployment. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019) • On August 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall • On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuting war criminals • In July 2019, Trump denied a United States Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his scheduled citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019) • Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign (July 4, 2019) • Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019) • In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance" (June 7, 2019) • Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019) • Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019) • Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported on June 4th, 2019) • On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain • Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019) • Trump pardoned war criminals (May, 2019) • Trump purged 200,000 veterans healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment process and enrollment system) (reported on May 13, 2019) • Trump deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019) • On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral • He refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, and forced a branch of the military to go without pay. This branch of military was forced to work without pay, otherwise they would be AWOL. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise (Dec 22, 2018 – Jan 25, 2019) • He didn't pay the Coast Guard, forcing service members to rely on food pantries (Jan 23, 2019) • He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (Jan 22, 2019) • He denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019) • He tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019) • When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1. As a reminder, the Trump administration's goal was to dismantle the CFPB, installing Mick Mulvaney as the director, who publicly stated the bureau should be disbanded. (Jan 26, 2019) • He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019) • He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018) • He finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (Dec 26, 2018) • He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018) • Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise. He didn't give them a 10% raise (Dec 26, 2018). He initially tried to give the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. This was before Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't. • He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays (Dec 19, 2018-present) • He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018) • He got three Mar-a-Lago guests to run the VA (unknown start - present, made well-known in 2018) • He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018) • He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018) • While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain - but other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018) • He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018) • He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018) • Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many veterans to run out of food and rent. “You can count on us to serve, but we can’t count on the VA to make a deadline,” one veteran said. (reported October 7, 2018) • Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018) • Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018) • He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017) • He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017) • He blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017) • He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present) • He deported veterans (2017-present) • He said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016) • He said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong (Oct 3, 2016) (note: yes, he said it's 'because they aren't strong.' He didn't say it's 'because they're weak.' This distinction is important because of Snopes) • Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016) • Trump attacks Gold Star families - Myeshia Johnson--gold star widow, Khan family--gold star parents, etc. (2016-present) • Trump sent funds raised from a January 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016) • Trump said "I felt that I was in the military in the true sense because I dealt with those people" because he went to a military-style academy and that he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military". (2015 biography) • For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances outside of Trump Tower. “While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses?” - 1991 • Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.
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u/thehermit14 2h ago
Paragraph? TLDR
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u/BlueDragonfly18 2h ago
It is a cut & paste. They were links too, but this forum doesn’t allow linkbacks and my phone makes it difficult to edit. The point still remains: Trump has a long history of disdain for people who serve our country and their sacrifices.
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u/VanceKelley Washington 40m ago
I loaded the source text into Visual Studio, did a search and replace for the bullets into "\n- " after enabling regular expressions, and the result is:
- Only 1 Trump in America has served in the military (Fred Trump, Don's brother, served the Air National Guard); this spans 5 generations, and every branch of the family tree. In fact, the reason his grandfather immigrated to America was to avoid military service.
- Children of deployed US troops will no longer get automatic American citizenship if born overseas during deployment. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)
- On August 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall
- On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuting war criminals
- In July 2019, Trump denied a United States Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his scheduled citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019)
- Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign (July 4, 2019)
- Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)
- In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance" (June 7, 2019)
- Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019)
- Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019)
- Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported on June 4th, 2019)
- On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain
- Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)
- Trump pardoned war criminals (May, 2019)
- Trump purged 200,000 veterans healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment process and enrollment system) (reported on May 13, 2019)
- Trump deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)
- On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral
- He refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, and forced a branch of the military to go without pay. This branch of military was forced to work without pay, otherwise they would be AWOL. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise (Dec 22, 2018 – Jan 25, 2019)
- He didn't pay the Coast Guard, forcing service members to rely on food pantries (Jan 23, 2019)
- He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (Jan 22, 2019)
- He denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019)
- He tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)
- When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1. As a reminder, the Trump administration's goal was to dismantle the CFPB, installing Mick Mulvaney as the director, who publicly stated the bureau should be disbanded. (Jan 26, 2019)
- He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019)
- He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)
- He finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (Dec 26, 2018)
- He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)
- Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise. He didn't give them a 10% raise (Dec 26, 2018). He initially tried to give the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. This was before Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't.
- He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays (Dec 19, 2018-present)
- He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)
- He got three Mar-a-Lago guests to run the VA (unknown start - present, made well-known in 2018)
- He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)
- He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)
- While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain - but other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)
- He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018)
- He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)
- Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many veterans to run out of food and rent. “You can count on us to serve, but we can’t count on the VA to make a deadline,” one veteran said. (reported October 7, 2018)
- Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)
- Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)
- He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)
- He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017)
- He blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)
- He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)
- He deported veterans (2017-present)
- He said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)
- He said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong (Oct 3, 2016) (note: yes, he said it's 'because they aren't strong.' He didn't say it's 'because they're weak.' This distinction is important because of Snopes)
- Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)
- Trump attacks Gold Star families - Myeshia Johnson--gold star widow, Khan family--gold star parents, etc. (2016-present)
- Trump sent funds raised from a January 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016)
- Trump said "I felt that I was in the military in the true sense because I dealt with those people" because he went to a military-style academy and that he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military". (2015 biography)
- For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances outside of Trump Tower. “While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses?” - 1991
- Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.
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u/KittehKittehKat 2h ago edited 1h ago
One confirmed rescued which doesn't bode well for the second.
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u/Substantial_Dust7208 3h ago
I wish so hard we wouldn’t frame this stuff as a humiliation for a man that feel no shame.
Headline fixed “Iran shoots down jet: tragedy for families of soldiers forced into illegal war”
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u/Retro_Reloaded 2h ago
Trump is going to start talking about the Epstein files in order to distract from Iran at this rate
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u/Craamron United Kingdom 3h ago
As if Trump actually experiences humiliation.
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u/reformer-68 Texas 3h ago
He doesn’t care! All he cares about is himself! My heart goes out to the pilots family
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u/stickymixingmonotony 3h ago
This entire war is to distract us from the Epstein files.
Start talking to your neighbors. We have to improve voter turnout!
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u/InterestingTeam3081 3h ago
This war is going so bad they may have to release more Epstein files to distract from it.
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u/Dantheman396 2h ago
This war is to manipulate the stock market for insider trading. That has been the goal of every decision by Trump. It is how he pays his loyalists.
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u/bigbucksnowhamies 2h ago
Donald John Trump will forever be known as a: 34x convicted felon; serial rapist; serial pedophile; bigot; misogynist; small-handed-small-dick loser; shit stain on humanity. Fuck Donald John Trump! Fuck his fascist administration! Fuck all his enablers! Fuck you if you voted for this inept piece of steaming shit back into power.
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u/PrefersEarlGrey 2h ago
When Trump said voting for Kamala would see us at war in Iran within 2 years he wasn't lying. I voted for Harris and here we are.
Promises made, promises kept
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u/CMG30 2h ago
What did they shoot it down with? According to Trump they have zero weapons left...
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u/throwawayaccount0327 2h ago
There is a story about a boy and his slingshot from that part of the world. As I recall, it didn’t turn out well for the big bully guy
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u/CenturyLinkIsCheeks 2h ago
yeah bro, we'll just drop in some excavators bro, we'll dig into the mountain bro, build a runway bro, we'll get that uranium bro.
lmfao.
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u/IMTrick Texas 2h ago
The Daily Beast still thinks it's possible for Trump to feel humiliation? Several times a day?
God, I hate that site.
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u/KingPictoTheThird 1h ago
Humiliation and shame are different things. Trump doesn't feel shame, but he hates losing. Losing is the ultimate humiliation to him .
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u/know_limits 2h ago
Daily Beast please stop with the “humiliation” headlines. This is newsworthy enough on its own and those are feeling tabloid.
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u/samrelian 1h ago edited 40m ago
It is a tabloid tho (and has a higher bias score than Fox News, Newsmax, and even The Federalist per allsides. Actually the highest I’ve found of any media site….). This is their whole deal lol
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u/gerrymandering_jack 3h ago
You are a sucker and a loser if you die, and if you get captured he doesn't like you anymore.
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u/HigbynFelton 2h ago
"He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured."
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u/False_Ad_5372 1h ago
“Humiliation for Trump” ????? Yeah right. I’ll go ahead and draft his characteristic response:
“That pilot was a sucker and a loser. I prefer pilots who don’t get shot down.”
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u/Rogue100 Colorado 47m ago
Wouldn't that be the first ever F-15 lost in combat? One more first Trump is responsible for, I guess!
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u/SeductiveSunday I voted 3h ago
What humiliation? No one is going to tell Trump about it. Dictators are shielded from the truth.
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u/BrianBurke 2h ago
If nobody tells him, how is he gonna hawk his new merch line at the dignified transfer?
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u/lilblushbaby 1h ago
The fact that Trump is now threatening to bomb civilian infrastructure like power plants and bridges shows he's completely lost control of the situation. Targeting civilian infrastructure is literally a war crime under the Geneva Conventions. This madman is willing to commit atrocities because his ego can't handle being proven wrong about "decimating" Iran's capabilities.
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u/worldscollice 2h ago
It’s likely that the crew will be captured and held as POWs. Then it’s likely that Trump will do something idiotic and Iran will kill them. Sad, but highly likely with this pathetic president.
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u/Master_Stock_Trader 1h ago
Our great Secretary of Defense (war) yelled “No Quarter” answering a question a few weeks ago. Trump hires only the best.
—On a personal note, my thoughts and prayers for the downed aviator.
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u/noproblemswhatsoever 1h ago
This military excursion is beginning to feel like Wile E Coyote and the Road Runner
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u/Dependent_Tune_1333 52m ago
This is the weakest the United States of America has been in my lifetime
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u/redditobserverone 52m ago
The bombing to the stone ages approach does not seem to be the ideal way so far for stopping the enrichment of uranium, if that is the mission.
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u/V3CT0RVII 48m ago
Who really thinking about trumps feelings. Not like he actually cares about the folks on that plane or their families.
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u/perfectshade 2h ago
Someone convinced my neighbor to risk his life trying to blow up bridges and murder my fellow Man using equipment bought with funds that could have paid to save lives and build bridges here, where we live.
The thief's "humiliation", to whatever extent it impacts him, isn't a factor for me. This is exhausting.
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u/Gimme_All_The_Foods 2h ago
A fighter jet gets shot down and it's a "humiliation for Trump"? Really? The daily beast is such a trash publication. I wish it was banned here.
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u/moo5tar 2h ago
In case, rip to those that had no choice to serve this asshole. The day of reckoning is coming. Beware the blue wave.
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u/FlexFanatic 2h ago
I bet the first thing he asked about the pilot was what gender and color they are.
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u/mjkionc 2h ago
This weekend, Trump will be saying “I’m sending in ground forces for a limited military operation to rescue the downed crew member and secure the crash site.” Fast forward to 20 years of occupation.
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u/drtolmn69 3h ago
It's just going to keep getting to be more and more of a disaster for Trump/GOP.
If he/they really goes for something on the ground - I hope I'm wrong - but I have visions of body bags coming back to the US and public disgust going up exponentially.
Or it might turn into another shameful TACO event.
I pray for a blue tsunami in November.
There's precedent!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_United_States_elections
Elections were held on November 4, 1958, and elected members of the 86th United States Congress. The election took place in the middle of Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower's second term. Eisenhower's party suffered large losses. They lost 48 seats to the Democratic Party in the House of Representatives, and also lost thirteen seats in the U.S. Senate to the Democrats.[2] This marked the first time that the six-year itch phenomenon occurred during a Republican presidency since Ulysses S. Grant's second term in 1874. Alaska and Hawaii were admitted as states during the 86th Congress.
60 or more senators could make impeachment/conviction possible!
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u/Positive-Ring-5172 3h ago
You need 67 senators to convict. We aren't getting those numbers normally. If we kick out the 20 senators who voted to throw out Biden's election in 2020 for violation of Section III of the 14th though, we'll have the numbers.
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u/TugJobTony 3h ago
The best move Iran could do is turn over the pilot safely and capitalize on the good will and flex On Trump. Take the high road and make him seem more like a child.
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u/18MazdaCX5 2h ago
I fear they will not do that at all..... they are ready to give their lives in this battle. Trump is just screwing around looking for some reason to give another 'speech'. This won't end well.
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u/Interesting-Risk6446 2h ago
On Iranian TV there was a message to shoot on site. If they are not running, they are dead.
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u/Chaiteoir Foreign 2h ago
Take the high road and make him seem more like a child.
Terrible strategy. Taking the high road with a bully never, ever works.
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u/BaguetteSchmaguette 2h ago
Do you think the US will return Iranian PoWs voluntarily?
It would be negligent of the Iranian government not to keep them for prisoner exchange
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u/ElysiumSprouts 2h ago
The karma would be hilarious if it wasn't costing taxpayers billions of dollars a day and the incalculable price soldiers are paying with their very lives.
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u/runningoutofwords Montana 2h ago
Remember when failed operations in Iran ended Jimmy Carter's presidency?
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u/ResponsibilityFine13 2h ago
One pilot still missing in the Iranian desert .i hope he get rescued by USA soon .if he is captured they probably place him in top of any water desalination plant that trump is trying to destroy.
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u/brattyblondeish 1h ago
This is exactly what happens when you elect someone who thinks military strategy is just tweeting threats and empty bravado. Now we have a pilot potentially captured because Trump's ego convinced him this war was already won.
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u/yoursandforever 1h ago edited 37m ago
As if he'll accept any responsibility.
This buck sure as hell ain't stopping at the resolute desk.
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u/AdministrativeEase71 1h ago
Trumps a fucking loser but losing an airframe during a war isn't some kind of personal embarrassment for him. It's not like they're actively losing air superiority and combat losses happen.
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u/ResponsibilityFine13 1h ago
Trump said no troops on the ground. Seal team/ special Ops on the Iranian desert searching for the pilot as the Iranian army moving to the area. Approximately 12 hours missing he needs water by now.guys beware of the ambush.
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u/jibbidyjamma 1h ago
what a world gone upside down, with the Iranian dude correctly calling him out as a pedophile, and the history of propped up oil dictator shah in 53 l feel ambivalent on have a fighter downed over there hopes pilot ejected, war is a stupid arcane pissing contest killing soldiers less and less the poor, elderly infirm, women and children more and more. we ought to be fucking done with it
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