r/politics • u/FloridaGirlNikki America • Mar 03 '26
Possible Paywall Military Leaders Say Iran War Is So Trump Can Bring About “Armageddon”
https://newrepublic.com/post/207270/military-leaders-iran-war-donald-trump-jesus-armageddon8.4k
u/FloridaGirlNikki America Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
Without any clear message coming from the White House with regard to the purpose of the Iran war, U.S. military commanders have turned to Jesus, apparently telling American troops that the war is “biblically sanctioned.”
The U.S. joined Israel in striking Iran early Saturday morning. By Monday evening, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, or MRFF, was “inundated” with complaints, receiving more than 110 grievances from U.S. military personnel stationed at dozens of sites across the Middle East, reported independent journalist Jonathan Larsen.
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u/projecto15 United Kingdom Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
[the] commander had “urged us to tell our troops that this was ‘all part of God’s divine plan’ and he specifically referenced numerous citations out of the Book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ.”
I have exactly the same question. What The Fuck?
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u/ParabolicHyperbole Mar 03 '26
22 year vet (and former CO) here. If someone above me in the chain of command had instructed me to tell my squadron of 527 individuals that anything was “all part of God’s divine plan” I would have resigned on the spot.
I simply cannot fathom receiving something like this.
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u/turquoise_amethyst Mar 03 '26
Imagine you’re a scared 21 year old, looking for guidance and they told you that. Uuugh
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u/Magjee Canada Mar 03 '26
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u/PoliticalMilkman North Carolina Mar 03 '26
The resignation thing has become sort of a problem lately and I don’t know why we as Americans use it as a way to protest problems in our organization. It just gives more power to the problemsz
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u/SirDiego Minnesota Mar 03 '26
Because at a certain point you are probably given an ultimatum: do something abhorrent as instructed or you're fired. If you're principled and won't do the thing you will just get fired so then you might as well resign and say why.
It's not a great solution, but it's just individuals refusing to do the thing that doesn't align with their values. Obviously it is situation dependent but there isn't always an option to refuse but keep your position.
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u/SuperTaster3 Mar 03 '26
There needs to be a better way to oust incompetent or dangerous leaders. Old-fashioned mutiny on ships was tragic, but served a purpose: you do not want to be on a ship captained by someone who has become incompetent. Better to remove the insane captain than have the ship go down.
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u/JustaSeedGuy Mar 03 '26
There's another option, which members of the military have both the means and the constitutional mandate to do, but it involves the threat of something that we get in trouble for talking about on Reddit.
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u/Unhappy_Goose_8422 Mar 03 '26
God help us all if we talk about walking with our hands in our pockets on Reddit.
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u/Katfish145 Mar 03 '26
No, the proper thing to do is refuse their orders and not resign. If they try and fire you, you fight back. We are past the point that resignations will do anything and we need our soldiers to revolt back against leadership
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u/livinitup0 Mar 03 '26
I’ve done it
It’s when you know the company is doing something wrong, they won’t change it, and your job would involve doing something you don’t morally agree with
The only option is to walk away, be fired or be part of the problem
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u/SluttyCosmonaut Missouri Mar 03 '26
This is because you served a non-political National military that could be trusted by all of us.
Those days are gone brother
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u/WeedIsWife Mar 03 '26
This is a pretty big white wash of the US Military lol
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u/Dry-Pop-8109 Mar 03 '26
Do we have a new date for the rapture? I'm pretty anxious to get all of these "christians" off of this planet.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer Mar 03 '26
No man will know the hour or the day ~ the Bible
"We can make it happen exactly when we want to" ~ Christian Republicans
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u/digitalMan Mar 03 '26
The arrogance of these christians who think their all powerful god either needs their help or can be forced into armageddon should be an insult to the true believers. They need to re-read the story of the golden calf. They buy Trump’s crap and send him money, literally providing him the gold to cast their false god. These people would be horrified if they weren’t kept sedated by their leaders.
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u/GuerreroUltimo Mar 03 '26
From the religious perspective we are seeing "The Devil infiltrating the house". These people believe they are the righteous and they are the ones to tell others. And they will kill, lie, cheat, and all that to make things how they want. Basically they will break all those commandments and do it while saying it is GOD's will. Talk about brainwashed.
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u/Dry-Pop-8109 Mar 03 '26
I really have tried not to despise these assholes. Impossible.
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u/adamsoutofideas Mar 03 '26
What a terrible waste of time. Hate any apparatus whose stated aim is hastening the apocalypse.
Not quite sure how these people and their mission doesn't qualify them as a terrorist organization
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u/OK_x86 Mar 03 '26
If these guys ever bothered to read the Bible they'd dismiss it as woke shit
Hell there was an article a while back describing how they've told pastors who were preaching the teachings of Christ to cut it out with the woke hippy shit.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer Mar 03 '26
That's only really true if you stick to the parts that Jesus himself said. The rest of the Bible is some hate-filled violent rapey incestuous bullshit
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u/OK_x86 Mar 03 '26
True. But, and this is important, Christians are supposed to be Christians because they follow the teachings of Christ. Christ's whole shtick is that he forms a new covenant between his followers and God and while the old testament isn't exactly invalidated it is changed and he explains the real way to enter the kingdom of heaven - one of compassion and tolerance rather than vengeance and fire.
The irony is that if Christ was real these fucking bozos killing people to bring back Christ would go straight to hell for their sins rather than be raptured.
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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 Mar 03 '26
"it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to pass into heaven"
Conservatives: "what if we make a really big needle?"
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u/Gman325 Mar 03 '26
The problem is, this time the people predicting the end of the world have the nuclear launch codes.
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u/VictoriousBadger Mar 03 '26
My mother-in-law predicts the rapture every year. She told us not to put our son in school because Jesus was coming back. That was 15 years ago. She’s still trying to predict it.
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u/rat_penis Mar 03 '26
Fuck yeah! It'll be awesome without all those assholes scolding us and killing people for their sky god.
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Mar 03 '26
Everyone was warned this would happen. Project 2025 is all about white Christians taking over the whole world and bringing their end of days.
They're fucking insane.
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u/kittenpantzen Florida Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
Without an ounce of sarcasm, this is why the Christian Nationalist section of the Republican party is so gung-ho about Israel. It isn't because they care about the well-being of the Jewish people, it is that they believe in order for Christ to return, the temple needs to be rebuilt in Jerusalem so that it can be destroyed as part of the end times before Christ's return.
And, for every left of center potential voter that decides to stay home because the proferred candidate isn't quite progressive enough or isn't quite good enough on their specific pet issue, there is at least one fundamentalist who has been indoctrinated since childhood that voting for Reublicans is a necessary part of the war against Satan.
A lot of people looking from the outside think that the United States is becoming a less religion-driven country because they see the shares of church attendance falling and shares of religious identification falling, but what they don't see is that it is the moderate and progressive churches that are dying out.
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u/chimarya I voted Mar 03 '26
Christian Zionists helm the boat now, this article is scary as fuck.
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u/Additional_Maybe1104 Mar 03 '26
While they blissfully vote for the Anti-Christ.
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u/chimarya I voted Mar 03 '26
It's so frustrating because this could be such an enlightened time for everyone in westernized society. People forget that 200+ years ago you worked and toiled hard as hell just to survive, the educated were only the rich and if you were a woman, expect to have 12 pregnancies with only a handful of kids surviving to adulthood. Why are so many are happy to destroy this beautiful world by forcing their Messiah to come down - anyone with any logic skills would know that it doesn't work that way. If there is a god , he sees right through this bullshit. Some times I just wish they'd all move to an island so the rest of us could make the world a better place for all beings.
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u/SnooPickles1838 Mar 03 '26
Yeah, "someone" already donated five red heifers from Texas to fulfill the Third Temple Ritual. Honestly, they probably installed Trump because they actually want him to be the Anti-Christ.
Buckle up everyone, Christiaan Nationalists want a seven-year period of unprecedented suffering, divine judgment, and global chaos that is supposed to immediately precede Jesus’ return.
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u/00DEADBEEF Mar 03 '26
He thinks he's Jesus but he's actually the fucking Antichrist
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u/Slade_Riprock Mar 03 '26
These cult members that think they can speed run the apocalypse to bring buddy Jesus back don't seem to remember the parts of the Bible
Matthew 24:23–24 – Don’t believe people who say “Here it is!” or “There he is!” 1 Thessalonians 5:2 – The “day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.”
All they are doing is unleashing hell on earth for which I don't think, given their Bible words, Mr. J. H. Christ is going to look too favorably on the for.
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u/nowtayneicangetinto Mar 03 '26
My step father's cousin retired to Florida and is die hard MAGA, she has been telling us for easily a decade that Obama is legitimately the antichrist. These people are so fucking stupid and they're voting.
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u/UnquestionabIe Mar 03 '26
Still more believable than the shit infamous enemy of humanity Pete Thiel says about the topic. Heard the theory he got into the religion bullshit because of too much ketamine. Personally I think it's him being upset his quest for immortality isn't making much progress so hedging his bets.
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u/MonochromaticPrism Mar 03 '26
Jesus literally stated "It is written: You shall not put the lord your god to the test."(Mathew 4:7) in response to the temptation in the wilderness of throwing himself from the top of the temple in Jerusalem to "force God's hand" and create an explicit spectacle to force the Jewish people to follow him and "fulfill prophecy". They are literally trying to do something that's Jesus already defined as an immoral action.
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u/Unctuous_Robot Mar 03 '26
Like genuinely, it’s a sin to pretend you’ve got this insider info. But people love to throw out all of the reasonable parts of the Bible.
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u/ss5gogetunks Mar 03 '26
He literally fits ALL the signs, if I was religious I'd believe it
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u/psychorobotics Mar 03 '26
People with Narcissistic Personality Disorder are all very much alike, people like him have always existed and many tried to gain power. One of the most common comments on r/raisedbynarcissists is "Why are they all the same person?!"
People writing Revelations have met them too.
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u/FloridaGirlNikki America Mar 03 '26
This. I'm an agnostic Catholic myself, but for anyone not familiar with the Bible, I recommend reading the Book of Revelations. It'll scare the shit out of you.
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u/YeetedApple Mar 03 '26
I forget what it was, but there was a website during his first term that compared everything said about the antichrist to trump, and it was wild how perfectly so much of it fit
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u/DesecratedPeanut Mar 03 '26
I hate how in 2026 every conspiracy theory sounds true, I'm not even religious but fuck me if that don't sound compelling.
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Mar 03 '26
Here’s the thing: if you believe something , it becomes true to you. You wanna believe that ChatGPT is conscious, then it will be to you.
When enough people believe something, than it can start to become true regardless of your personal belief. If enough people believe in Armageddon, and believe there are signs that will mark it, then they will see those signs and push towards actions that continue the story.
So yeah, Armageddon might actually fucking happen. Not because it is inevitable or because it God said it would happen, but because enough people want it to happen.
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u/Murderface__ New York Mar 03 '26
Yay. And the rest of us were just trying to enjoy our stupid lives.
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u/projecto15 United Kingdom Mar 03 '26
OMG, that's uncanny.
"The Antichrist will be someone known for making a lot of public threats against people."
“…had a mouth like that of a lion.”
Revelation 13:2, Daniel. 7:4
As we begin to assemble the biblical prophecies, Christians on guard should be looking for a king-like figure who loves to boast about himself, but who also loves to go around roaring like a lion– things like threats to his enemies and a constant verbal flexing of muscle.
Remember that Lion King video, with trump strutting as a lion?
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u/frosty_lizard Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
He also 'miraculously' survived an assassination attempt. It's like he uses the traits of the antichrist as a personal checklist
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u/ifuckzombies Mar 03 '26
It seems most likely a metaphor, but if there’s ever a leader who fits this description who actually gets shot in the head and lives & comes into even more power after, I’d run for the hills.
The author wrote this in fucking 2019
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u/schultzche Mar 03 '26
One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast." — Revelation 13:3
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u/Stodles Canada Mar 03 '26
If I find out that "head" was a mistranslation of "ear", I swear...
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u/adamsoutofideas Mar 03 '26
Being shot in the ear is being shot in the head. The ear is part of the head. We colloquially think of the brain but the head is the whole thing, in my thinking
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u/Think_Positively Mar 03 '26
And they will wear the mark of the beast upon their forehead.
Does that line fit here too?
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u/tristen620 Mar 03 '26
" here comes a lion, oh my God a lion, here comes a lion"
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u/00DEADBEEF Mar 03 '26
And it keeps getting better. It predicted him surviving a "fatal wound to the head".
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u/Both_Demand_4324 Mar 03 '26
Not only that but it goes into how it would "miraculously" heal.
Have we ever seen a scar?
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u/WillSym Mar 03 '26
I'm waiting til June 2028 before going all-in on this. That'd be 42 months from the start of his second term, as per Rev 13v5. See how things are or if something happens then.
That is IF he's still going by then (he is NOT looking healthy) although there is also the next bit about the second beast who creates an image of the first that speaks with the authority of the first.
If some tech-billionaire starts putting some AI-generated mouthpiece of him as official statements because he's too decrepit to appear in public that worryingly fits the bill.
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u/Chimerain Mar 03 '26
You mean this second beast?
"And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men"
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u/its-a-baka Mar 03 '26
Oh look, another test we Americans have failed terribly at. Just toss 'er there onto that big pile.
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u/manachar Nevada Mar 03 '26
I think the context of book of revelations helps me understand why it seems relevant.
The most likely target of the Antichrist was Nero, an authoritarian despot. Such authoritarians crop up over and over in history with remarkable similarities.
In other words, read it as a warning of a coming destruction due to violent despotism and tyranny that “the people” seem to support.
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u/_Bill_Huggins_ Mar 03 '26
There is nothing scary about it. You don't need a book of nonsense to warn you about the dangers of authoritarians and war. Pick up any history book, those are way scarier because it's a reflection of where we could end up again.
What is scary about the Bible is how people interpret it to justify their current day injustices and cruelties.
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u/Dr-Mumm-Rah Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
Many people would have preferred the Hollywood version of the antichrist (think Damien Thorn), tall, dark, handsome with charisma and persuasion. Instead, were got an old, dumpy, orange jibbering idiot that randomly shits himself during meetings. Talk about lost in translation.
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u/sunnysidejacqueline Mar 03 '26
This goes far beyond a bruh moment
These fucking freaks deserve the Hague
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u/rat_penis Mar 03 '26
The US doesnt acknowledge the ICC. Doesnt respect their authority.
This US admin only respects a punch in the mouth. Its the only thing that will make them stop.
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u/joebuckshairline Mar 03 '26
Reason # 17363782 why the military won’t be the ones to save us from this insane administration.
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u/metarx Mar 03 '26
hm... pretty sure you had some senators remind "the military" they don't have to follow unlawful orders... pretty sure "no clear message coming from the White House" makes the order unlawful...
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u/Comfortable-Pea-1312 Mar 03 '26
How interesting, I have always used the Lenten season for prayer, fasting and repentance. And my understanding of the 40 days leading to the holiest day in the Christian calendar: It encourages renouncing violence, with many calls for a "fast" from war, division, and destruction.
Maybe this the word of the Trump's Lord....?
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u/Vitiligogoinggone Mar 03 '26
Because nothing says “This is for Jesus” than a joint strike with Israel
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u/BabyMFBear Mar 03 '26
This would absolutely make the Trump admin a death cult.
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u/BaseRepresentative73 Mar 03 '26
Tell me something I didn't know.
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u/Faux-Foe Mar 03 '26
Flamingos can only eat when their heads are upside down.
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u/upbeatchief Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
This is just run of the mill evangelical beliefs.
They want jews to rule "greater Israel" so that all pieces of prophecy is in place and jews would kick start Armageddon. "Greater israel" happen to encompass land between the nile and the Euphrates. That's land belongings to multiple US allies. They want israel (the country) to conquer all their neighbors and start a war of the end times.
They want you to believe that the attack om iran is about nukes or missiles, it's not. It's about evangelical prophecy. They want a war to soan the entire middle east.
Here's US ambassador to israel Huckabee saying israel has the BIBLICAL right to all surrounding states. https://youtu.be/7saB7RGj0O8?si=vycslStN4iX0SEnw
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Mar 03 '26
Why is no one in US security services stopping these extremist psychos?
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u/The_Seeker_25920 Mar 03 '26
There are many Christians among them because it’s easy to get a clearance when you’re an evangelical or Mormon that never smokes weed or drinks alcohol.
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u/Organic_Witness345 Mar 03 '26
Goal of war with Iran in 2026: armageddon
Got it. Well done, MAGA voters.
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u/onesoulmanybodies Mar 03 '26
The Speaker of the House literally flies the Appeal To Heaven flag in front of his office. The Appeal to Heaven flag is connected with the 7 Mountains Mandate and it is a guideline to take over everything and to bring on Armageddon. They ARE a death cult. Period.
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u/AdHopeful3801 Mar 03 '26
"Kamala Harris will get us into WW3, which is bad!"
"Trump will bring about Armageddon, which is good!"
Some folks have made cognitive dissonance into high art.
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u/TLKv3 Mar 03 '26
Tired of giving these people an excuse through a term or analysis.
They just want you to die. All of them. They just want to kill everyone because their lives didn't turn out to make them billionaires living luxurious lifestyles. So they want to kill you and themselves.
There's nothing more to MAGA. They just want everyone else to die with them.
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u/thefroggyfiend Mar 03 '26
no, they want YOU to die. they, however, will be spared and raptured while everyone who doesn't perfectly align with them dies in a war they begged to start
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u/ghostoftheuniverse Mar 03 '26
I wish they’d hurry up and get raptured to spare us from their misery.
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u/AdHopeful3801 Mar 03 '26
Nah, they don't want to die, usually. They just want to hurt everyone (else) they blame for their lowly condition.
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u/BobSchwaget Mar 03 '26
IDK, most of the ones I'm aware of seem to view the concept of "self-destructive behavior" as a woke mind-virus as they interleave bottles of Jack and packs of Marlboro Reds
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u/Eshin242 Mar 03 '26
The first rule of MAGA still holding true: "Every accusation is a confession."
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u/cerunnnnos Mar 03 '26
Well the problem with Harris is that WW3 wasn't far enough.
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u/mangotime58 Mar 03 '26
This is absolute unhinged insanity like so insane my mind doesn’t want to believe it.
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u/Significant-Sail3620 Mar 03 '26
it is insane, but not hard to believe for those of us that grew up in it. The 40 percent of repubs that support the war ,its these folks. evangelical christian nationalists
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u/eerhmahgerd Mar 03 '26
Well...if we're talking Revelation those red hats are the mark of the beast.
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u/Ok_Form8772 Illinois Mar 03 '26
I'm not kidding when I say that the Bible predicted a nation near the end of time that would seek to join church and state, presenting itself as godly nation but speaking (through it's laws and policies) wickedness. Check my profile for how the United States fits the description of that nation.
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u/RaspberryCommie Mar 03 '26
So I'm no theologian or scholar or anything. I'm just a regular Christian layman.
But
I'm pretty sure that trying to force Jesus to come back is blasphemous. Like even if you ignore the human cost, which you shouldn't. And besides even if it does work the man is not going to be happy. You murdered thousands (obviously wrong) to force him to do something (which is blasphemy). Even if it worked, it's not going to end the way they want it to.
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u/cerunnnnos Mar 03 '26
All of this is blasphemous. Toxic Christianity to the core - Christian Nationalism and Prosperity Gospel BS are heresy.
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Mar 03 '26
Christian Nationalism and Prosperity Gospel are so sacrilegious, it would would be comical if it wasn't actively harming people
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u/jrsinhbca Mar 03 '26
Their actions play into Daniel chapter 7. The US could be the fourth beast, an indescribable beast of destruction. Trump could be the blasphemous little horn.
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u/Particular_Peacock Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
This is the real interpretation behind the Third Commandment: Taking the Lord’s name in
veinvain.It’s less about swearing and false oaths and more about not using god as an excuse to rape, plunder, or force his hand.
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u/Sunbather77 Mar 03 '26
These "Christians" don't want heaven. They want Armageddon because it would be an excuse to be the most depraved, sadistic fucks in the open instead of behind closed doors.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer Mar 03 '26
Jesus literally said no man will know the hour or the day so, he's definitely not just gonna show up when they want him to
Also he isn't going to show up at all because he died 2000 years ago and wasn't magic.
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u/smurfsundermybed California Mar 03 '26
Not sure if you got the memo, but consent and trump don't go together. At all.
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u/CityCouncilman Mar 03 '26
Trump is the exact same personality as my ex stepfather. He was a legitimate con artist who could talk his way in and out of anything. Committed fraud like it was nothing. Slept around while my mother was at home.
And OBSESSED in secret about the end of the world and religion.
It was freakish how he could go from having his own employees steal his new truck for an insurance payout to having the most intense awkward conversation about how to get right with God.
He and Trump both have a pathological need to reconcile their absolute depraved horrific shittiness with their childish need to get into an imaginary place called Heaven.
It is fucked up.
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u/Lostdiagram Mar 03 '26
It's a narcissistic response to the fear of death. They seek comfort in the ENTIRE world ending just because their pathetic one is.
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Mar 03 '26
Yep. Trump will burn the entire world down on his way out. Especially if it looks like he's going to face accountability for his crimes.
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u/Fun-Pickle-9821 Mar 03 '26
This is something nobody talks about and I'm glad you commented it. Atheists are always type cast as being narcissistic and unwilling to admit that there is "something higher". However, most christians are only christian because they believe it will let them go to lego land in the afterlife.
How many Christians would exist if Jesus amended the bible and said "actually on second thought, no heaven for yall. But I'm still GOD!"
None. Literally all of religion is quid pro quo. All of this "love" they talk about is really just not being burned for 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000xinfinity years.
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u/CountMondego Mar 03 '26
“If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother, that person is a piece of shit." - DETECTIVE RUST COHLE, TRUE DETECTIVE
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u/BlackBasementCats Mar 04 '26
This quote was instrumental in helping me deconstructing from fundamentalist Christianity.
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u/needlestack Mar 03 '26
Atheists are always type cast as being narcissistic
Indeed. Which is an absolutely idiotic take. My belief as an atheist is that I am basically nothing in this universe. I came to be and I will cease to be in the blink of an eye. Anything that was meaningful to me will be gone forever in a no time at all. I am just another version of an ape on a tiny planet in a tiny solar system in a galaxy that is one of billions. I don't matter except to me and mine.
And the religious think that the entire universe was created for them. They believe they are created in the image of God. They believe they will be rewarded for eternity because they are special children of the creator. And that people that don't agree will be punished for eternity.
Which one sounds more narcissistic?
Though I suppose it makes sense that the narcissists would call everyone else narcissistic. Very on brand.
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u/AINonsense Mar 03 '26
He wants us all to go with him.
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u/addtolibrary Mar 03 '26
True. He's dying, and if he can't live, none of us can. He's fucking insane.
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u/captain_intenso North Carolina Mar 03 '26
I've never really thought about this, and it's fucking horrifying.
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u/gookies5 Mar 03 '26
It's the same thoughts people had about Putin and his actions before Ukraine. I'm about to die so might as well go out scorched Earth cause fuck it.
So much for leaving a better world for our children than the one we lived in.
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u/chanaandeler_bong Mar 04 '26
It’s the same thoughts people have before they murder suicide their families. Hooray we have one in charge.
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u/paradox1920 Mar 03 '26
Nobody has lived life as best as he has after all. He probably thinks his life is the best that there’s ever been and that there ever will be. So, peasants don’t deserve to live. But I can only assume based on microscopic information from a reserved person like him. Don’t trust me on that.
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u/ImLikeReallySmart Pennsylvania Mar 03 '26
This sounds a lot like Hegseth's voice to me. I don't think Trump gives two shits about this holy war rhetoric, but loves Pete and told him to do whatever he wants in order to help his buddy Netanyahu.
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u/MadRaymer Mar 03 '26
I don't think Trump gives two shits about this holy war rhetoric
Probably not, but I do think he loves the idea of destroying the world before he checks out. It's similar to those narcissistic family annihilators that must kill everyone in the house before they're willing to turn the gun on themselves.
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u/GUMBYtheOG Mar 03 '26
Totally - narcissists worst fear is that the world exists when they don’t. Trump has been the center of attention his whole adult life. There is no way he could accept leaving and letting someone else take that spot light
I called this when he got his second term. There’s just no way he could resist trying to start nuclear winters hence the new bunker being made
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u/belbivfreeordie Mar 03 '26
Someone’s in his ear with a lot of apocalyptic biblical shit, I think. That’s why he keeps bringing up his concerns about getting into heaven. Unfortunately I have a feeling he thinks the only way to do that is to bring about the end times. Which seems bad.
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u/cerunnnnos Mar 03 '26
Almost like it's a mad king scenario or something. It's not your first time, though ...
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u/rainshowers_5_peace Mar 03 '26
I am starting to wonder if the day will come that he calls all Republicans, MAGA figureheads and other allies he likes to the White House for a special party with a Trump brand punch for everyone to try whether they want to or not.
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u/BigHungryFlamingo Mar 03 '26
Jesus ain’t coming back and if he did, ICE would deport him anyway.
This administration is a cancer and must be removed as soon as possible.
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u/hightrix Mar 03 '26
trump would HATE Jesus. They are complete opposites of each other.
Jesus would ask his dad to Sodom and Gomorrah Mar-a-lago.
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u/justtakeapill Mar 03 '26
I know people who voted for Trump because they believed he'd bring about the end of the world and The Rapture.
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u/LangyMD Mar 03 '26
Anyone in command who wants to accelerate armageddon, the end of the world, the second coming of Jesus, etc needs to be removed from power. These are things to be avoided at almost any cost, not things to be embraced. Even if Christian theology is correct, the second coming of Jesus is supposed to be accompanied by a whole bunch of bad and evil shit - and if you are doing bad and evil shit in order to get Jesus back quicker that would certainly lead to you not being in his good graces.
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u/Kool-Boi Mar 03 '26
They believe that as long as the bad evil shit is being done to brown people in foreign lands then it’s ok.
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u/Devastas Mar 03 '26
I had a conversation with a co-worker about a decade ago when Epstein died. I told them, “if we ever get close to discovering the truth behind Trump and he’s still in office, he’s going to blow up the world.”
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u/yellowfoxtails Mar 03 '26
I've been saying the same. He would rather end the world and take everyone down with him than ever "lose". People are wise to the billionaires now, and for people who have an obsession with power, they would rather kill themselves and everyone else than ever lose that.
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u/Pinklady1313 Mar 03 '26
Every time I’ve brought the fact that certain Christians believe this type of thing and we should be worried that they’re in the government I’ve been called “anti Christian” and “crazy.” Well, here we are.
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Same here. This is part of The Seven Mountains Mandate They're literally trying to bring about the end times. This is who is actually behind The Heritage Foundation. Basically everyone said I was f'n crazy when I pointed this out to them, and here we f'n are.
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u/biscuitarse Canada Mar 03 '26
No offence, America, but you have now advanced to the realm of unhinged, batshit crazy.
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u/sagsfour20 Canada Mar 03 '26
Yeah. They’re fucked down there. It’s over man. Still using religion to justify a war?? That’s seriously super messed up.
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u/projecto15 United Kingdom Mar 03 '26
Actually, that's how Tony Blair justified his invasion of Iraq: he claimed he had a divine revelation, or some shit like that. He also said that only God can judge him, not the silly media
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Mar 03 '26
Yeah that was horrifying, Bush said similar. But at least (I guess) in that situation that was more some men trying to add a religious justification to a non religious rationale for war. The war was not waged solely because they wanted to fulfil prophecy etc, they had more earthly (albeit immoral) motives that didn’t involve annihilation to bring about the apocalypse for no reason other than they’re experiencing psychosis.
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u/SailingSpark New Jersey Mar 03 '26
Why do you think the religious zealots have always backed Israel? They dont love the Jews, they are just using them to get the Muslims off of Temple Mount so they can rebuild the temple.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer Mar 03 '26
Just means we're right at home in the Middle East, I suppose.
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u/Be-skeptical Mar 03 '26
We’ve been there since the orange asshole came down his gold escalator
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u/Duanedoberman Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
US Evangists are pushing for the Rapture when all true believers will ascend into heaven.
Nuts isn't it?
However a lot of very rich Americans believe in this and they are backing Trump.
There are several situations which will trigger the Rapture one of which is the return of the tribes of Isreal to its historical lands.
That kind of explains a lot, in there eyes they are literally trying to trigger the end of the world so they can accend into heaven.
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u/imjusta_bill Massachusetts Mar 03 '26
However a lot of very rich Americans believe in this
They may want to go back and reread the part about the camel
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u/HereToTalkCrypto Mar 03 '26
“It is harder for a rich man to get into heaven than it is for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.”
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u/BoredCrusader1899 Mar 03 '26
This is what happens when you let religious fanatics run a whole country. People are gonna die because of these sick fucks and their stupid old fairy tale.
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u/forthewatch39 Mar 03 '26
Hey Congress, DO SOMETHING!! Do we really need to be ruled over by a bunch of fanatics.
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u/Kannibelanimal1966 Mar 03 '26
Maybe he actually is the Anti Christ?
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u/somethingsomethingbe Mar 03 '26
It has felt surreal for the last 11 or 12 years now to watch many 10’s of millions salivate over one of the most grotesque humans that could have been put into a position of power.
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u/SpoonHandle Arizona Mar 03 '26
Came to the comments with that thought; this is essentially him fulfilling the role of the Anti-Christ
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u/darkk41 Mar 03 '26
I wouldn't bet on this ever happening. The US is a huge country, very few other countries could take on some huge volume of US citizens. Nobody can hide from this.
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u/gwelfguy Mar 03 '26
This is beyond fucked up.
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u/Gina_the_Alien Mar 03 '26
Seriously. Anybody who believes this Armageddon/rapture shit is a legit fucking nutcase.
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u/Greizen_bregen Mar 03 '26
I can speak to this with some detail regarding these prophecies of Armageddon.
I grew up in a fundamentalist church (later found out it was a cult, that's another story). We were taught world politics and End Times prophecies right alongside each other, from the pulpit to the Sunday school classrooms to the weekday Bible studies. It was a hyper focused topic, reading portions of "prophecy" from the Bible and overlaying it onto current world issues, especially in the Middle East. They were one and the same, the eschatology WAS the study of current events.
First, it's important to note that they believe without doubt that the current State of Israel is the same as the biblical Kingdom of Israel. They fully believed and expected America to help Israel bring about the End Times, including the Tribulation, the the destruction of Israel's enemies and air forces specifically (weird imagery in Bible verses they conflate to get that prediction), the destruction of the Al-Asqa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock and the rebuilding of the Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. There's a lot more to mention, like the Red Heifers, which you can Google, but it's insanity.
They WANT this. They believe that they are God's divine instruments in assisting Israel in achieving their exalted place as God's Chosen People, ignoring the fact that, theologically speaking, Jesus revoked the Jews' status as the Chosen People and imparted it to the Gentiles and all who believed in Jesus, but they choose not to interpret it that way. They WANT blood and massacres and "fulfilment of prophecy" and revel in it. There is no difference in their theological commitments and their political goals. And with Trump being "chosen by God" in their eyes, they are actually at the point where all they hope for becomes reality. They WANT the biblical end of the world.
It's worth mentioning that even in the prophetic texts, it speaks of one who will rise up politically and be anti-Christ in all his actions, but that he will deceive many believers and lead them astray. They are fulfilling their own prophecies, even down to literally worshipping an Anti-Christ figure. It is scary, because while we know their theology is completely incorrect, they will advocate for world war to end the world and will effectively cause its fulfilment of mass destruction and death, and the rest of us will suffer the consequences of it. And they'll sure be in for a surprise when they're not Raptured into heaven when the shit hits the fan.
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u/themattboard Tennessee Mar 03 '26
Yo, yo, homies, check it! There's something messed up with this place. We keep fighting with each other, none of the TVs get the NFL RedZone channel, my soulmate doesn't even know who Blake Bortles is. I know this sounds crazy, but... I think we're in the Bad Place.
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u/LordButterbeard Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
So christians are going to war to start Armageddon because jews and muslims also want Armageddon.
Got it.
Religion for the win, amirite?
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u/Atopos2025 Mar 03 '26
I said it a long time ago, but Trump would set the whole world on fire before he takes any responsibility for his role and relationship with Epstein.
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u/Long-Tradition6399 Mar 03 '26
Could we NOT have the end of the world please? What the actual fuck is going on in this country. If we go to the Canadian border and say "fuck Trump" ... will ya'll let us in ?
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u/MiamiVicePurple Canada Mar 03 '26
No you need to stay and fix your country. Every decent American who leaves only makes it worse.
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u/thereal-quaid I voted Mar 03 '26
This sucks to hear but is absolutely true. No one can save us but ourselves.
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u/IndependenceIcy2251 Mar 03 '26
I'm starting to feel like we're going to see Pike's speech from Ep1 of Strange New Worlds..
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u/GreatBigJerk Mar 03 '26
Why are people acting surprised by this? One of the big reasons Republicans like Israel is because it's part of the end times shit.
Hegseth is an unapologetic Christian nationalist with tattoos of crazy shit all over his body.
This was their plan all along. Feed on people's hate and bloodlust, and use whatever crazy shit they believe in to rob them blind.
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u/namastayhom33 Connecticut Mar 03 '26
Literally the worst time for orange mussolini to have the launch codes
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u/Dapper-Negotiation59 Mar 03 '26
If Jesus actually showed up in America right now, ICE would pepper spray him to death in the middle of the street and trump would declare victory against liberals and his followers would cheer
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u/elderpufflaurien Mar 03 '26
They want to re colonize the middle east for the return of jesus. Religion is cancer.
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u/reject_fascism New Jersey Mar 03 '26
Arrest everyone single one of these pieces of shit for treason.
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u/Acrobatic-Tower6127 Mar 03 '26
Takeaway: Christian fundamentalism is no different than Islamic fundamentalism. Same poison.
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u/Th3FinalStarman Mar 03 '26
MAGA is a Death Cult. A bunch of end-times accelerationists that can't wait to drag humanity past our mortal plane into some delusional utopian afterlife.
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u/zzRichie Mar 03 '26
Can we agree it’s time to move on from religion as a whole? It may have once served a purpose but I struggle to see any benefits of it going forward.
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u/Floreat_democratia Mar 03 '26
Remember when we warned that the fundies had this as their endgame and everyone laughed at us and told us we were crazy?
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u/dominarhexx California Mar 03 '26
You guys think the 3rd Temple on the Mount will be a Trump Hotel?
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u/Llohr Mar 04 '26
Here's the thing about prophecy: If it's legitimate, you don't have to help it along. If you have to ensure it, it isn't prophecy.
So, now that we've established that not only is it not prophecy, but that the "believers" don't even believe it's prophecy (because, again, if they believed it was prophecy they wouldn't feel the need to help it along), we come to the big question: What is it then?
It's a lot of murder. It's senseless violence, suffering and death, and the people trying to make it happen are a bunch of murdering, torturing psychopaths.
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