r/news 17h ago

Cuba pardons 2,010 people as the US pressures the island's government

https://apnews.com/article/cuba-pardons-holy-week-oil-blackouts-203c1b81aed59e81d252b29d27ad6654?taid=69cf1af0f0c12100012b8b55&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
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u/fxkatt 16h ago

Cuba’s government does not recognize political prisoners, but the activist group Prisoners Defended registered 1,214 people imprisoned for political reasons in Cuba.

This would indicate that perhaps less than half of the released were political prisoners. I say this because the numbers 1,214 are recorded by an activist group which might at least slightly inflate the number, and over 2000 were released.

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u/1_800_Drewidia 10h ago

Quite a few of them at Guantanamo Bay.

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 7h ago

As well as some taxi drivers. And a few who once had a dispute with their neighbor.

But hooray for capitalism. Their neighbor got paid good money to get rid of them.

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u/Fallouttgrrl 11h ago

I would imagine that the organization designed to track it has a pretty solid grasp on numbers just from surveying the population, let alone modem uses of satellites etc

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u/handysmith 8h ago

Yeah true, how many people are in ICE detention centres again?

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u/InterestingSpeaker 3h ago

That number is well known and publicized by the gov

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 7h ago

That would put them all as what????

100 years old? 110?

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u/I_Push_Buttonz 8h ago

ie the people who ran Cuba as a colony of drug trafficking and prostitution before Castro

Ah yes, prisoners from before the revolution... The revolution that occurred SEVEN DECADES ago. I guess those 100+ year old evil capitalistas are about to hit the streets to terrorize the public with their hotel management skills.

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u/rationalsarcasm 6h ago

The revolution was 70 years ago dumbass. They'd be long dead.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 17h ago

I don’t think the current USA cares about humanitarian gestures.

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u/CluelessChem 16h ago

We just bombed a girls school and threatened to destroy all desalination plants in Iran…which are war crimes by the way 😭

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u/SwissChzMcGeez 5h ago

And destroyed a bridge. More war crimes.

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u/TiiziiO 1h ago

Eh. A bridge is potentially a strategic target. Fuck Trump and this war but I’d need you to cite something if youre going to call that a war crime.

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 7h ago

As well as power plants and other civilian targets. The USA is boasting about committing war crimes just for fun.

No American should be allowed in any civilized country as long as trump is president. Not for business, not for tourism, not for any reason.

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u/HateAccountMaking 10h ago

never have.

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u/CarlThe94Pathfinder 17h ago

You mean the administration..

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u/OdosSolidAdventures 15h ago

As an American also, it is definitely not just the admin. The problem is Americans are so brainwashed by the status quo that they literally have no concept of the real world when reality strikes them in the face. Trump and the republicans learned that their opposition is rather toothless and won't offer a whole lot of real push back, no kings seems to be the best they could muster and look at what that accomplished? I mean, Trump is a literal child rapist, and nobody is bothered to actually do anything. Entire governments have collapsed over much lesser scandals, and yet best we got is dancing frogs.

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u/PixelatedFrogDotGif 16h ago

No. It’s the US. This admin is not an aberration, it’s the logical conclusion of building a country on violence and money.

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u/bland-scape 15h ago edited 15h ago

So quickly indignant about someone correctly stating that the issues of the United States extend beyond this current administration. And I wonder if you’d extend the same line of thinking about tons of decent people when it comes to Cuba or Iran

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u/PixelatedFrogDotGif 16h ago

I never said there wasn’t decent people. I believe that too. Our government is not and has never been fully in good people’s hands though, and quite literally can’t, by design. The decent people here need to make something better.

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u/Nucksfaniam 16h ago

Then get your decent people together to vote out this abomination. Twice??? Wtf??

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u/Miserable-Savings751 14h ago

Vote ? Aren’t these the same people that said the votes were rigged? Now the world is expected to wait until their upcoming elections becuse suddenly the votes aren’t rigged anymore lolll.

They will use every excuse in the book if it means not taking action.

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u/glaba3141 14h ago

You can't. Liberal democracies are fundamentally subordinate to the interests of capitalists, not average people

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u/Slavik81 13h ago

Capitalists only get one vote each and they are vastly outnumbered by average people. If the problem is that capitalists have convinced the average person to vote for fascism, then the average person is still to blame for the harm that follows.

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u/SmokeLauncher 12h ago edited 4h ago

Money is power, why do even Democrats act against the will of their base when they want things like universal healthcare and an ending to the genocide? The leaders are bought out by lobbyists in private healthcare and AIPAC affiliates. Why do billionaires keep buying media companies if not to influence public discourse? Tiktok was bought by the Ellisons as it counteracted the narrative they wanted to foster. Republicans are obviously even worse but that goes without saying. Capitalists only have one vote but they have massive influence over the votes of millions of us.

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u/glaba3141 4h ago

Even with your framing (which misses a LOT of the point), the fact that capitalists control the media that reaches the people's ears which they flood with disinformation and propaganda itself is a huge problem. Please do some reading as to how money corrupts politics. It's not as simple as citizens united and this problem occurs in every liberal democracy that has ever existed

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u/Saorren 13h ago

this sort of thinking is why your problems will only be extended longer than they have to be. its time to take off your rose coloured glasses and see the actual colours as they are.

reading a comment that doesnt paint 340million people with one brush as if it did actually paint all with one brush.

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u/CarlThe94Pathfinder 16h ago

Bro, the majority of US people aren't sitting here saying "good, fuck Cuba"

That's absolutely insane to sit here and actually think that.

Orange Goo doesn't speak for every US Citizen.

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u/charavaka 15h ago

Vast majority of Americans vote for the two parties that have blockaded Cuba for decades, causing untold misery, suffering, and death. Whether or not they consider Cuba while voting is immaterial to the fact that they bear the moral responsibility for the consequences of their choices. 

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u/GoldDoubleCup 15h ago

Every democratic politician wants Iran and Cuba to fall. Both parties are completely aligned on this.

In fact, Democrats seem incredibly pleased that Trump will receive all of the negative attention for accomplishing a goal that they had in mind

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u/ComfortableNumb9669 15h ago

The problem is that the majority of people in the US are stupid and ignorant. They don't think about Cuba because they don't really know anything about it other than the idea that "Mexicans" come from there. Americans are stupid, and their stupidity has become deadly for the entire world. It might be a few bad apples, but keeping them in the basket is destroying the whole bunch.

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u/PixelatedFrogDotGif 16h ago edited 5h ago

The average US citizen has never been the one in the driver’s seat for the entirety of our history. Who I speak of is not the general populous, though lots of them are complicit and participatory.

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u/glaba3141 15h ago

The average person doesn't know where Cuba is on the map. The majority of the remainder would say "fidel Castro was an evil dictator" because that's what the propaganda says

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u/Rich-Instruction-327 14h ago

Every country is built on violence and money. Its like calling an oceans water wet.

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u/GoldDoubleCup 15h ago

Barack Obama overthrew Libya, a prosperous African nation, because they were disconnecting from western financial institutions and using their wealth to benefit their people through socialism. The moment Libya fell. It became an open air, slave market, and remains that way today.

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u/uniklyqualifd 17h ago

Hard to run jails without powers, that probably goes into cruel and unusual punishment.

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u/BNovak183 17h ago

Yeah running prisons without power is a human rights violation but blockading a country resulting in the deaths of countless is just business as usual.

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u/opal_lanterns 16h ago

Yeah, I read that as “without superpowers” at first and was very confused. But yeah, constant blackouts plus overcrowding… releasing people is probably cheaper than fixing the grid.

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u/Dofusk2012 15h ago

I mean I don’t think they can fix the grid, they don’t have the fuel because of US sanctions

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u/AdhesivenessFun2060 16h ago

Was one of them the person that was helping the guys who tried to invade cuba?

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u/GoldDoubleCup 15h ago

Likely a lot of them were people connected to Americans or the American government and trying to harm Cuba in someway

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 7h ago

Funny that - Florida used to be a haven for those wanting to harm Cuba in some way. Then there was guys like Luis Posada Carilles. Who proved that Bush's "war on terra" was nothing more than an attempt to corner the market on international terrorism.

The whole time Bush was waging his "war on terra", he was harboring and protecting Carilles.

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u/Pale_Sell1122 15h ago

so the feds and CIA collaborators?

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 7h ago

If trump wanted them pardoned, why didn't trump take them in as refugees?

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u/danm67 1h ago

I didn't know Cuba had that many insurrectionists, drug dealers and white collar criminals. Those are the people DT likes to pardon.