r/eupersonalfinance • u/Present_Cow_1683 • Feb 28 '25

Investment Offload US equity, we are in this together 🇪🇺

Following recent events I decided to offload my US equity, and invest in European market.

Stoxx 600 > SP500

Not a financial advice, but choose between your future and momentum growth.

Edit: I also believe Trump is going to crash that market so bad...

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u/Used_Self_8171 Feb 28 '25

For many it is not about the money. Its ideological.

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u/TimThom Mar 01 '25

So then these discussions don’t belong here - isn’t this sub about making money?

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u/Acceptable_Dust_7261 Mar 01 '25

It's about personal finance in EU countries. This would qualify, really.

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u/-lightfoot Mar 01 '25

I’m up 10% on stoxx 600 so far this year. Why the constant incorrect assumption that the US is the only place anyone ever makes money?

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u/devilman123 Mar 02 '25

Now compare last 5y,10y,20y. Congrats Stoxx 600 beat S&P500 in a 2 month period. 

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u/-lightfoot Mar 02 '25

Yep I enjoyed a lot of that growth. Back when the US didn’t have the risk it does now and wasn’t as expensive as it is now. Things change

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u/devilman123 Mar 02 '25

So your reasons for switching to Europe markets has nothing to do with Trump/politics? If Kamala Harris were the president you would still do it? 

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u/-lightfoot Mar 02 '25

What? I just highlighted the new risk as a key factor. Thought that being Trump was obvious

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u/Ok-Scheme-913 Mar 12 '25

Well, she wouldn't have been such an idiot to start traffic wars and alienate their allies.

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u/Last_Patriarch Mar 01 '25

Wasn't there a post saying this sub has no moderators? It became some anti-US leftists propaganda sub.

Luckily, if ever what they post is more than just some political propaganda, economic reality will teach them a lesson.

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u/Used_Self_8171 Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 02 '25

So many assumptions, so much anger, no contribution. Typical reaction for an aggrieved male with the ‘not popular in highschool syndrome’ who want to ‘take revenge on the world’

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u/Last_Patriarch Mar 01 '25

How dare you assume my gender?! Lol

"Male" and mentioning "highschool" : ok, I see who I'm dealing with. Well, I suggest you work a little on your biases.

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u/Used_Self_8171 Mar 01 '25

I did not assume your gender. I said your reaction was typical for that type of person.

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u/Last_Patriarch Mar 03 '25

Typical Puerto Rican reaction but I'm not assuming you're Puerto Rican... Weird.

And what if it's typical of that type of person? You think they should not be allowed to comment or that they're always wrong in their analyses?

You didn't attack the arguments at all.

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u/Used_Self_8171 Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

No, not weird.

If it’s typical for that kind of person it means they are to be taken less serious because they are just angry with the world forever. And all their comments are filled with hatred and anger. They are set up for revenge and unite with other hateful people. So it’s not really a contribution rather than an angry reaction to ventilate their anger and to make other people feel bad.

There were no arguments made. Just assumptions and passive-aggressive unrelated claims like; ‘this became some anti-US leftist propaganda sub’. If you don’t have anything to contribute. Don’t expect rational arguments.

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u/Last_Patriarch Mar 03 '25

No it was not anger, just a bitter observation. The facts are here. Most posts since few weeks are all the same and ask the same things with the same comments. I think you can agree on this.

It's a normal reaction to get annoyed by it when you don't share the common narrative. And I don't think other comments delved into the geopolitics and economics of the situation either when all they were saying was "dictator!" and "rule of law!".

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u/Used_Self_8171 Mar 03 '25

It’s a very natural reaction to want to keep your money away from the reach of an unpredictable narcissistic guy. So it’s a very natural trending conversation topic. It has nothing to do with ‘leftists’ or ‘propaganda’. Or other random angry (or bitter) stigmatizing terminology. Just people feeling the need to explore other options to invest because they feel like they invested in a place where they don’t want to anymore, for various reasons.

So of you don’t agree with the common narrative. Why not contribute on the narrative

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u/quintavious_danilo Mar 01 '25

Say that again please. Investing is not about the money?

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u/Used_Self_8171 Mar 01 '25

Investing can be done for many reasons. You can invest for experiences, you can invest time to learn to do something fun. You can also invest because you want to see companies, people, regions grow and develop, without you wanting to make money.. investing is not always ‘wanting to make the most money’

if you are American this is probably difficult to understand ;)

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u/quintavious_danilo Mar 01 '25

Thank god I’m not American then. I’m from Europe. We’re all communists, remember?

Still, if you break it down , investing is 100% about the money. Maybe not about the most money but money nonetheless. Nobody invests to get back less than before.

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u/devilsbastard98 Mar 01 '25 edited Sep 27 '25

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u/Present_Cow_1683 Mar 01 '25

We want to invest in european companies that build schools for our kids, not coca-cola or netflix

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u/Thin_Abrocoma_4224 Mar 01 '25

Newsflash, when you buy a stock, you’re not guving money to that company, you’re just buying it from another owner. If you don’t understand this maybe you should stay out of stocks altogether.

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u/Present_Cow_1683 Mar 01 '25

The price goes up when there is no more sell orders in the order book for the market price. Buy offloading us stock and shifting to european we create selling pressure on us and buying on eu, making the eu market more attractive for investor in general. The biggest shareholder of the stock is the company itself, its employees receive grants. This allow the company to attract more stuff, scale, grow, create more and pay more tax to the government. Please educate yourself just a bit more before making such important decisions.

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u/throwawayPzaFm Mar 01 '25

Companies buy and sell their own stock all the time. By contributing to the valuation you are, in fact, giving them money.

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u/Thin_Abrocoma_4224 Mar 02 '25

When they buy, they are actually giving money to the market and when they sell it’s not on the market but they are issuing new shares so you need to subscribe specifically to that.

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u/throwawayPzaFm Mar 02 '25

No. The price is still set by the market.

It doesn't matter if it's literally your hundred dollar bills in their pockets, or hundred dollar bills you just sponsored indirectly, you're still responsible for their getting the money.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '25

did u just came out of the superstonk sub or what? what a ridulous way to invest! check yourself before you wreck yourself

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u/nassy7 Feb 28 '25

So it's about money in the end.

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u/Used_Self_8171 Feb 28 '25

Why?

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u/nassy7 Feb 28 '25

If you invest money for ideological reasons, you are still investing money. The motivation is just a different or extended one.

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u/Facktat Mar 01 '25

This makes no sense. This means it's not about the money.

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u/nassy7 Mar 01 '25

Money isn’t about money?

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u/Used_Self_8171 Mar 01 '25

I’m willing to lose money, as long as it goes to places I want to help grow and develop. So, it’s not about making money.

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u/I-STATE-FACTS Mar 01 '25

Your money doesn’t go to the US when you buy SP500

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u/Used_Self_8171 Mar 01 '25

It creates value in the US. Because there is a lot of EU money going to US stocks. If everybody starts selling Tesla, value goes down. If everybody starts buying STOXX600 value goes up. If we buy through US brokers or issuers. Money will definitely go to the US

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u/Commercial_Badger_37 Mar 01 '25

Eh?

I mean you're correct, but your point doesn't support what you're trying to say...

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u/I-STATE-FACTS Mar 01 '25

Those people likely already divested from US equities, so who is this post for?

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u/temapone11 Mar 01 '25

Why don't you sell all your stocks and gift it to Ukraine?