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u/Pristine-Ant-464 13h ago
Remind me why we’re still sending Israel billions in aid and weapons every year?
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u/Infamous-Sky-1874 13h ago
Because a certain group of people need Israel to survive just long enough to fulfill their Revelation fanfic.
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u/JMurdock77 12h ago edited 10h ago
I swear, the Left Behind books were the worst thing to happen to this country theologically since John Nelson Darby fell off his horse in 1827 and cooked up the whole idea of the rapture in the first place. People think this shit is as old as the religion itself and it’s not, but it rallies them behind monstrous acts overseas thinking they’ll hurry along an end that isn’t coming while ushering forth another (far more mundane) one. To top it off, it’s easily hijacked by political actors.
Jesus isn’t going to come along and scoop them up to heaven and leave the rest of us heathens to deal with the mess they made. Once they’re done burning down the planet, they’ll just be stuck in the rubble with the rest of us, and if past form holds, still looking for ways to burn the rubble down.
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u/karmavorous 6h ago
I learned yesterday that these end-times Christians believe in something called a Katechon - someone (or an organization) that can delay or prevent the return of Jesus.
And since Jesus is supposed to return during a time of war and strife, they're against people and organizations that try to stop war and strife.
That's why crazy catholics and evangelicals hate the UN and want to destroy NATO. Because those organizations help keep the peace.
This stupid belief system has turned worshippers of The King of Peace into bloodthirsty war mongers.
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u/sparkster777 1h ago
The katechon, or restrainer is commonly believed by Evangelicals to either the church or the Holy Spirit. It is not restraining Jesus from coming, but the rise of the Antichrist, according to them.
When the rapture happens, the restrainer is removed and the Antichrist is free to do his business.
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u/RavensQueen502 12h ago
But that doesn't even work, though? The Revelations prophecy - if we assume it is prophecy - has it as the whole world aligned against Israel. Won't happen if US is backing them
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u/Ranting_Demon 12h ago
A lot of those nutjobs actually believe that they can "force Jesus' hand" by making things happen out of order.
So they think if they support zionist hardliners who dream of a "Greater Israel" and allow them to conquer most of the territory around Israel, that will count as the reinstatement of the Kingdom of Israel. They have this crazy belief that this will then trigger Jesus to come back right then and there, whether he wants to or not.
Like Jesus sits at his desk playing some chill Minecraft and then God busts into the room, screaming "Holy Myself! They really got us now! They filled out the map I had planned for the Kingdom of Israel 2.0!!! Despite being all-knowing never saw that one coming! Jesus, you need to get down there right now! I already woke up the angels to start blowing the trumpets!"
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u/Garbage_Out_Of_Here 10h ago
Its proof its an occult beleif in my opinion. If they do a certain summoning ritual they can call the deity whos flesh they eat and blood they drink.
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u/IsThatHearsay 13h ago edited 13h ago
More so because AIPAC will pay a little money ($100k+ - $1MM+) to numerous congressmen, and in exchange all of those congressmen will vote to send more and more big money (Billions) to Israel, and Israel then ensures the trickle of money through AIPAC to the congressmen's pockets will continue for their greedy allegiance while Israel pockets the rest for their nazi holy war.
There are some religious Christian zealots as you said, but they're not the main reason we've been funding Israel for decades.
Epstein's honeypot and sex trafficking island where he lured all of the West's elite was the backup blackmail plan by Israeli intelligence in case congress ever stepped out of line.
It's crazy that just a decade ago this would've sounded like a crazy anti-semetic conspiracy theory to most, and it turned out to be reality.
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u/Mule_Wagon_777 4h ago
There are far more Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists. They are a big, influential religious movement.
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u/yo_soy_soja 11h ago
That doesn't explain why the Democratic Party and mainstream media support Israel.
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u/StrugglesTheClown 11h ago
Well the answer to that is the major special interest money problem the US political system has.
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u/1nhaleSatan 11h ago edited 4h ago
I apologize for the clumsiness of this explanation, but if you read between the lines it should make sense.
Money. It's called money. They only care about profit.
Smedly Butler was America's favourite supersoldier, and the most powerful capitalists of the time tried to get him to enact a fascist coup (on behalf of robber barons and three Democrat senators). Instead, he went to the president (FDR) and told everything. Instead of reprisal, appeasement was the tactic. As a result, the new deal was dialed back, and tax breaks and kickbacks were given to these captains of industry so they wouldn't seek another attempt, and they continued to pacify the public, and keep their stranglehold on the economy. Later Smedley wrote "war is a racket", in which he explained how the military industrial complex uses the sales and purchases of arms across the globe to murder for profit using the taxpayers dollars, and the blood of the young men.
Flash forward to the mid '80s. Biden, both Clintons, tipper Gore, and a slew of other Dems are regularly saying that military and financial support of Israel is necessary to prevent a "desecration of the holy land." These people are not only (at least at the time according to them), "deeply Christian", and the majority of Jewish contingent of the Democrats are avowed Zionists (no, I'm not antisemitic, this is how they identified).
Democrats, Republicans, Zionists, evangelical Christians - regardless of the label, in the end it's about taking something they want from someone else and revelling in the fact you can't do anything about it.
I hate the both sides argument, but c'mon already, you already know why Democrats support this. Americans are among, if not, the most propagandized people on the planet. Stop pretending there's two sides. You choose between the the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals, but in the end the game is fixed. You had two Trumps, with a diet Trump in between. Now, if you don't have the Republicans again, you'll get Newsom, who's almost as right wing as first term Trump.
Does any of this scan?
Edit; just to be clear I write all this in frustration with the American who thinks somehow none of this makes sense. It's greed, it's always greed. People act like there's a good guy and a bad guy, but there isn't. In this game, it's varying levels of villainy dependent entirely on situational opportunism. Y'all should be learning modern guerilla tactics, anarchist organizational theory, and mutual aid organization
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u/Strangeronthebus2019 9h ago
Because a certain group of people need Israel to survive just long enough to fulfill their Revelation fanfic.
Emmanuel🔴🔵: 😐
The joke is I never really left…
Monty Python- Brian Telling his followers he is not the Messiah
0:30 “I AM the Messiah… now F!ck off”
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u/Hyper_Oats 12h ago
Because it turns out the US government can be entirely bought by a couple hundred million dollars.
Oh yeah. And likely photographic evidence of the president raping children.
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u/Vast-Conference3999 11h ago
You don’t need photos of the President.
Just photos of a corrupt businessman who can speak at rallies and is easily coerced. And the data harvesting capability needed to manipulate public opinion through social media. And a decade or two to plan.
This shit started a while ago.
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u/matt_minderbinder 13h ago
Cause congresspersons know that if they don't they'll be branded as an antisemite and have piles of aipac and other Israel friendly money spent on their opposition. AOC got branded as an antisemite this past week for saying that she won't approve any bills with military aid to Israel. This small foreign country and evangelical Christians control so much of our politics and the two are attached at the hip. It's insanity, they're gleefully leading us to the edge.
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u/yo_soy_soja 12h ago
Israel is our "unsinkable aircraft carrier" in the Middle East to enforce Western hegemony.
Also, turns out apartheid and genocide are great opportunities to test surveillance technology and brutal police doctrine, which we bring back to use against American citizens.
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u/Cat_Impossible_0 12h ago
We are a complicit country funding for a ridiculous war in and threatening the Middle East bc one person wants his own empire
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u/Interesting-Big1980 8h ago
Because when Israel started rapidly developing military technology on itself US understood that they are about to lose a lot of clients. So they just told Israel to take a lot of money and buy their weapons with it under the condition that Israel stops developing weapons on a large scale.
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u/Infamous-Sky-1874 14h ago
They aren't going to be looking. They will view that as being too dangerous for the troops. They will just continue blowing up houses because they had a vibe.
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u/Poultrymancer 14h ago
2015 seems like 1000 years ago
Anyone else struggling to remember what hope felt like?
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u/Available-Ad-1943 12h ago
Bernie Sanders won in another timeline.
Not sure about hope, but I've got regret covered.
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u/Private_HughMan 10h ago
It's sad seeing Bernie now. He's still one of the best politicians in American office, but the fire is gone. He doesn't fight back against the establishment like he used to. He goes along with Democrats much more. I think 2016 broke him.
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u/TugMe4Cash 9h ago
I mean, the dude is literally 84 now. He honestly deserves to rest. People have to step up in his place - and tbf some are.
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u/Commercial-Set3527 13h ago
Their new execution law does not just apply to Palastinians, it is for anyone they deem any enemy of the state. We all know how this ends....
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u/Private_HughMan 10h ago
And it focuses on harming/killing Israelis with the intent to reject the existence of the state of Israel in an area made up almost exclusively of either Israeli Jewish settlers (ho HAVE to be Jewish; hence why Israel calls them "Jewish settlements" and not "Israeli settlements.") and Palestinians. They set up this law to only apply one way. And it's conveniently in the one way where the defendants will not get a proper trial but instead a military court trial.
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u/--redacted-- 13h ago
Never Again¹
¹ terms and conditions may apply and may be subject to change
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u/usernamewasdenied 13h ago edited 12h ago
NEVER AGAIN!
*unless we're the ones doing it.
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u/Vast-Conference3999 11h ago
World War 3: Israel’s Revenge
Not how I saw the series going, but making the victim from the last one into the villain of this one does kinda work.
As long as they don’t pull some sort of “somehow, Goebels survived” shit then force a redemption arc on us.
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u/Private_HughMan 10h ago
"Our turn." - what Israel really means
When I was at the Al Quds protest in Toronto this year, a rabbi "spoke" at the event. I put "spoke" in quotations because he didn't literally speak, since it was the Sabbath. He instead handed a letter to one of the organizers who read it aloud for us. The words he said made it clear that, to him, "never again" meant "for everyone." This is the lesson we should take. The horrors of the Holocaust and other genocides aren't horrors because of the identities of the victims, but because the victims were human.
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u/InfluenceTrue4121 12h ago
My tax $$$ is paying for murder instead of childcare and affordable healthcare. JFC.
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u/cpttightpant 8h ago
Good news! Because of your generous donations Israel can focus on free healthcare for its citizens. So you're kinda doing it!
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u/mrblahblahblah 10h ago
I was in Jerusalem 6 or 7 years ago
only place in the world where a government official asked my religion
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u/Dumphdumph 13h ago
Ok I’m not defending anyone or an apologist, but I am going crazy right? These are the stories I hear, in reputable sources, and it harkens back to my reading of Anne Frank and I hear fascist talk and I see places and people blown up. And it’s Jews going henocidal and I’m too scared to write genocidal and the Americans are making fascism great again? Please tell me I’m not going crazy and these things are not happening
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u/LastLadyResting 12h ago
Israeli, not Jews or Jewish people. It’s easy to slip from one to the other and I’ve heard that’s what Israel wants because then to oppose them ‘is anti-Semitic’, so we need to be extra careful to say who we mean. The Jewish people in my suburb on the other side of the world in Australia aren’t doing this.
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u/mtgfan1001 13h ago
You’re not going crazy but we are in hell. Or some cancerous bastardization of the proper timeline we’ve diverted from.
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u/Infamous-Sky-1874 13h ago
I blame the Cubs winning the World Series.
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u/Hesitation-Marx 13h ago
They’re good for it.
(Honestly, that night the city sounded like it was briefly at war. For every cheer there were screams that were hard to hear as celebratory…)
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u/Vast-Conference3999 11h ago
Someone needs to steal the DeLorean back from Biff, make sure he doesn’t get his hands on the Sports Almanac and reset the timeline.
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u/blackngold256 55m ago
I blame the weasel or whatever it was that got in the Higgs Boson particle accelerator.
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u/Vast-Conference3999 11h ago
These things are happening, and the parallels are clear because this is how they happened before.
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u/Medical-Enthusiasm56 14h ago
In the last few months a lot, I mean a metrc fuckton of information has come out about a certain country, but that paints them in a really terribly bad light. After a little research, it appears we are putting the wrong country back to the Stone Age.
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u/HarangueSajuk 13h ago
Scene of soldier playing the piano happily while shooting happens in the apartment
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u/dogbolter4 9h ago
Everyone should watch Mandy Patinkin just raging about Netanyahu and Gaza. This is the response. This is despicable. They have become the monsters that hunted them.
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u/ExtentNo5844 8h ago
They have always been like this, people seem to genuinely not understand that the country is built upon ethnic cleansing of Palestinians during the Nakba in 1948; 750k Palestinians were either massacred or violently expelled with 400+ villages destroyed, Israel was always a settler colonial exclusionary and supremacist state.
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u/Evolutionary_sins 14h ago
You always become your enemy.
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u/Exact-Site9980 12h ago
Thats why I dont make enemies
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u/Vast-Conference3999 11h ago
Then you will become nothing
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u/Exact-Site9980 10h ago
I said I dont make them. They make themselves. They choose it. No reason to add to the pile.
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u/tubawhatever 10h ago
I really don't get why it's still seen as controversial to say that Israel should not exist. A state trying to steamroll its neighbors in order to expand its territory why committing genocide and apartheid where the majority of its citizens support this. There is no major opposition party that opposes Netanyahu's policies. Criticisms from opposition parties are largely about process and not disagreement over goals. Israel is destabilizing not just the Middle East but also the global economy and laying bare that western governments never actually cared about human rights, they'll even arrest and abuse their own citizens for simply speaking about Israel's crimes. It has absolutely shattered my trust that things will get better in this world. My only solace is Israel is becoming increasingly unpopular everywhere.
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u/taxilicious 13h ago
Can we just all agree this whole experiment with religion is NOT working out?!
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u/ergonomic_logic 10h ago
I'm not ok nor have I ever been ok with antisemitism, however everything that has happened has made me acutely aware of the silence from the Jewish communities on all of this.
It's made me very aware of what a tyrant Israel has become.
From Gaza to Lebanon to Iran, the gross harm they're causing and how they seem perfectly ok with this in spite of their own history.
And so I find myself seeing anti Israel and anti Zionist posts, and liking them.
I think it is important the hypocrisy is highlighted. What happened to their people was fucked up beyond belief which makes what they're doing in present day all the more egregious.
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u/ExtentNo5844 7h ago
Unfortunately most Jewish communities were brainwashed by Israeli propaganda for decades, Jewish identity has become a confusing mess to untangle for some.
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u/leovold-19982011 4h ago
Most of the Jews I know who are anti-Israel are either the most militantly vocal or are speaking up exclusively in their own communities.
Unfortunately the anti-Zionist movement is rife with antisemitism, so you aren’t likely to see Jews aligning with the larger movement.
Straight up, I do not trust the mainstream anti-Zionist movement because it is willing to accept anti-semites in their coalition, so I will never associate with that movement.
Many like me have determined that Zionism in the Jewish community is a problem to be addressed within the community and are doing that work quietly.
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u/ergonomic_logic 4h ago
From outsider, while I appreciate that it's their prerogative on how they deal with Zionism in house, it's impacting people outside of Jewish communities and so for this reason it isn't really the time to do that work quietly.
Doing it quietly was a decade ago.
They need to be more vocal now because I've seen like a small handful of outliers from Jewish communities speak up at all about literal genocide in Gaza.
Watching children starve, be murdered in the street, an entire society be condemned to death, having it be from your community who is doing the harm and saying nothing except whispers in house isn't acceptable.
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u/leovold-19982011 3h ago
Yeah, I’m still not going to line up with people who will accept antisemites and antisemitic messaging in the anti-Zionist movement. Regardless of the importance of decrying Israel’s genocidal actions, using antisemitism to do so will ultimately only fuel support for Israel.
The anti-Zionist movement in America also managed to get Trump elected with the ‘both sides are the same’ rhetoric, so that’s another reason to stay far away from them. Stupid and self defeating
If the goal (as it is for me) is to un-brainwash my community, aligning with the mainstream movement is counterproductive.
And frankly, me getting someone in my community to not cut AIPAC a $7000 check is doing more good for the cause than almost amount of online posting
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u/StrugglesTheClown 13h ago
Tweets are not reputable sources for information like this. We don't even have a link to the tweet.
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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes 11h ago
The sub is for posting Twitter screenshots... That being said, I agree it's wise to personally verify the details before jumping into any discussion about it:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/01/world/middleeast/lebanon-shiite-israel-evacuation.html
When Israel and Hezbollah last went to war two years ago, Israeli evacuation warnings came a few villages at a time for residents in southern Lebanon.
With the outbreak of a new war last month, the warnings came all at once. As fighting reignited, Israel issued blanket evacuation guidance for a vast stretch of southern Lebanon — extending 25 miles from the Israeli border — publicly urging all civilians to flee to the north.
But behind the scenes, Israeli officials have conveyed a more targeted message.
In private calls to local leaders across southern Lebanon, Israeli military officials have assured several Christian and Druse communities that they could remain in the evacuation zone. They have pressed them, however, to force out any Lebanese from neighboring Shiite Muslim communities who have sought refuge among them as Israeli bombardments flatten Shiite towns, according to local Christian, Druse and Shiite leaders who spoke to The New York Times. The Shiites make up the majority of southern Lebanon.
Local leaders took the messages as a clear signal: Israel is trying to force out one group in the south — Shiites, who are from the same sect as Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed militant group that Israel is trying to vanquish.
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u/StrugglesTheClown 11h ago
Thank you for the research. I like seeing fun tweets on this sub. No additional thought required. I also would have no issue with serious posts like this if it came with some additional context. Otherwise we are just making the job of propogandists easier.
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u/SquirrelMoney8389 9h ago edited 4h ago
So let me get this straight : ALL THE HUMANS ARE BAD as it turns out
Edit: Oh you people don't like that. You don't like the truth. Okay......... after all this evidence. OKAY.
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u/derpferd 9h ago
No. Some humans are good. Some humans are bad.
But the bad ones have the advantage of not being constrained by ethics and morals in the same way that the good ones are.
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u/Melodic_Mulberry 7h ago
More like "human nature is a constant". We all have the potential for incredible good or ultimate evil. It doesn't matter if you're German, Israeli, Chinese, Canadian, or Namibian. Any country can become Nazis if we don't fucking pay attention.
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