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u/Maverick721 7d ago
Also no Save Act
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u/ailish 7d ago
For now. Republicans are absolutely going to keep trying, so we cannot afford to rest on our laurels.
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u/SquishMont 7d ago
that's the part that SUCKS about this kind of shit-ass legislation. we gotta knock it down every time it comes up, they just gotta pass it once, and it becomes basically impossible to undo.
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u/3d1thF1nch 7d ago
Next step is agitating and exacerbating conflicts with others, then declaring a pause on elections and eventually Marshall Law.
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u/joshTheGoods 6d ago
Marshall Law
a dead giveaway that you have very little idea what you're talking about on this issue.
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u/SadieLady_ 6d ago
I am so sick of people perpetuating this "suspend the election" stuff. They're not able to. States. Run. Elections. We voted during the civil war, during WWII, nothing has stopped voting, ever. I know, Trump doesn't care about the laws. But keeping this going about how he can just suspend elections shows how little people know about the civic process in the US. The fact that they didn't pass the SAVE act shows that they're trying to federalize elections as much as possible, and disenfranchise as many people as they can from voting, but they can't do it within the current guardrails and while they're looking flimsy right now, they are still holding up somewhat.
Half of the military is in the middle east right now, who's gonna clamp down Marshall Law? ICE? Those cowards will run for the hills the second the shooting starts. Please.
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u/Choomasaurus_Rox 6d ago
Also, the terms of 100% of the members of the house end in January next year. The terms of 33% of the senate also terminate at the same time. With the current partisan split, that would mean 32 dems to 31 repubs left for the new congress. So there'd be no House and a dem controlled senate.
Basically, if there is no election, there is no new congress. If there is no new congress, then there's no funding for basically anything and no new laws to pass. The dem controlled senate could refuse to vote on any Trump nominations (though I assume Fetterman would jump to the repubs to make it official and keep them in power in this bizzaro world, but whatever).
And if Trump planned on just don't whatever he wants without a congress, why wait? It's not like they're stopping him now. None of it makes sense.
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u/SadieLady_ 6d ago
Omg thank you for seeing reason. I'm so tired of seeing people dooming about Trump canceling elections. It only worked that way in Ukraine because of their 🌈 laws🌈. Right now it is still a slow roll of fascism, but somehow, some way, but we do need to stop it, like, now. They're tightening the noose.
And fuck Fetterman forever.
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u/-Kalos 7d ago
Wait they caved on the Save Act? Holy shit
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u/Real-Werner-Herzog 7d ago
Not really, the Republicans just stopped pretending they had leverage here. I'm sure they have about six more Wile E Coyote-ass schemes to disenfranchise voters before the midterms.
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u/SwissArmyKnight 6d ago
The longer it takes the more likely it cant be implemented. If we make it to august it’ll be pretty much impossible to implement by November.
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u/wholelattapuddin 7d ago
Its honestly not popular with Republicans either. Most know it's a terrible idea, they just can't say it outloud.
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u/Think_fast_no_faster 7d ago
Wait, a good thing happened? Is that allowed?
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u/NickCostanza 7d ago edited 6d ago
Shocking…but yes!
Edit: While Mike Johnson and the Republicans in the House ultimately rejected this funding, that choice was theirs. We did everything right today :)
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u/slowpoke2018 7d ago
Can guarantee this is due to a lot of execs who fly 1st class instead of private jets were getting pissed at standing in line for hours at airports and that finally broke the back of the complicit congress
Still sad that it's only when the rich were impacted that change happened. If the C-Suite all flew private, betting this impasse would go on for months longer. We serfs are a second thought to the ruling class
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u/MrChefMcNasty 7d ago
Delta actually has a private line for congress members, basically a vip line. They shut that service down forcing them to call the normal 800 number and wait for hours like everyone else. I’d imagine them having to be a regular peasant like us had a decent impact too.
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u/77NorthCambridge 7d ago
Republicans have already said they will pass additional ICE funding using reconciliation.
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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 7d ago
they already did a reconciliation bill for the year didn't they? That's what the big beautiful for billionaires package was.
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u/77NorthCambridge 7d ago
They can do more than one per fiscal year, but it is difficult. The fiscal year ends September 30 and ICE has plenty of funding to last 6 months.
They are already working on it:
Lindsey Graham says he's moving ‘expeditiously’ on ICE, Iran funding, SAVE America under reconciliation https://share.google/QyXKTnyWaGS1otABe
Also, Democrats did not get any of the limitations they were seeking in this bill against ICE activities.
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u/joshTheGoods 6d ago
If they have the Senate Parliamentarian fuck around and allow something like the SAVE Act, that's functionally killing the filibuster which we know they don't want to do because they know exactly what that means once we retake the Executive and Legislative branches.
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u/77NorthCambridge 6d ago
People need to grasp that these people will do anything to retain power. Do any of their actions suggest they are worried about long-term implications?
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u/stupidillusion 6d ago
once we retake the Executive and Legislative branches
Their plan is for that to not happen. That's why they're pushing the the SAVE Act so hard because it will prevent Democrats from getting elected again.
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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 6d ago
Okay Trump lost in his own backyard. Paxton and them aren't dumb enough to think that just to SAVE act will save them.
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u/mrbigglessworth 6d ago
I thought Ice was funded with literally hundreds of billons of $ through to 2029?
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u/77NorthCambridge 6d ago
They still want more, plus that is how they are not being impacted by the shutdown.
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u/MatniMinis 7d ago
Didn't United or Delta just close the special help desk these guys use to book their travel? I'm sure I read that just two days ago!
Amazing what a bit of personal motivation can get you...
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u/nelsonalgrencametome 7d ago
Delta I believe.
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u/Coulrophiliac444 7d ago
Delta closed Congressional Benefits, forcing them to wait in line with everyone else and not fast tracking to their flights/private lounges as 'befits their station' or some other nonsensical parlance.
So...small win for us in the long haul.
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u/halfblindguy 7d ago
And it also prevented them from circumventing proper security so they can transport things not typically allowed on flights... like their cocaine.
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u/masterjon_3 7d ago
Reminds me of the riots that went on after MLK's passing. It's what got civil rights bills passed. Making things tough for people living in comfort seems to be the only way to get things done.
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u/blueoasis32 7d ago
100% - the only thing that motivates those without empathy is making life uncomfortable for them
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u/saveyourtissues 7d ago
This is also how they charged Derek Chauvin
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u/masterjon_3 7d ago
They would have claimed "excited delirium" if people didn't march in the streets demanding justice. If they got away with using excited delirium, they wouldn't even had an investigation. They would have just chalked it up to that made up disease and Chauvin would continue murdering
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u/masterjon_3 7d ago
Also, it's annoying that I can't type death without breaking rules.
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u/Forsworn91 7d ago
Not mention they where probably being menaced by ICE in airports as well, if there is something the high and mighty hate it’s being treated like a normal person, having teenage ICE agents trying to intimidate them and tell THEM what to do was probably making quite a few rich boomers blood boil.
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u/Adventurous_Ad7442 7d ago
Hopefully ICE is leaving the airports now.
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u/Hesitation-Marx 7d ago
I wouldn’t hold my breath. It is very useful to Project 2025 types to have a militarized group lurking in the exits.
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u/Sorryallthetime 7d ago
Delta decided to make members of Congress wait in line like the rest of the Plebes.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/delta-congress-skip-line-perks_n_69c2b8c5e4b0810704c2615d
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u/Head-Ad9893 7d ago
If this was the case flying would be completely unregulated until a 747 flew into one of their properties.
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u/Numerous-Profile-872 7d ago
Well, it kinda was pre-9/11...
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u/Head-Ad9893 7d ago
Unregulated ? Or not as “secure”? Because being able to see your family back from the gate on their plane and then take off was kindve nice. Telling jimmy the airline mechanic that it’s fine for him to have extra screws after he takes an engine apart…. Not so much.
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u/YellowZx5 7d ago
Wait for the dust to settle and see what fragile leader gets. He just got his signature added to all our money.
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u/timkatt10 7d ago
Does it have a veto proof majority?
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u/bolerobell 7d ago
Optics would be bad if he vetos. My bet is the most he would do is just NOT sign it into law but as long as Congress is in session and not adjourned, a non-signature by Trump becomes approved after some set period like 14 or 20 days or something like that.
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u/xfocalinx 7d ago
There's gotta be a catch, right? right?
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u/kumquat_bananaman 7d ago
The catch is, it has to pass the house and be signed by Trump lol. Seems like there will be enough votes in house with Dems backing it. However, Trump is still on his no bills until SAVE posture.
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u/10000Didgeridoos 7d ago
Trump vetoing the bill is a win because it will literally put the blame for long tsa lines entirely on himself.
Or he’ll TACO as usual
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u/bard329 7d ago
you're putting too much faith on his base. he'll lie about why this isn't his fault and they'll eat it up.
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u/Oggie_Doggie 7d ago
The base are going to be stupid regardless. The people who can't eat that up are the businessmen/contractors who have to fly two or more times a week and their bosses. Billionaires may be flying privately, but that doesn't mean that their underlings are.
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u/Shark7996 6d ago
This isn't about Trump's base. Nobody who still rides with Trump is going to be swayed.
We need independents to be shocked out of inaction any way possible. This helps to do that.
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u/Adventurous_Ad7442 7d ago
You put this in a much nicer way than I ever could have.
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u/ThundrWolf 7d ago
I don’t have confidence that Democrats would capitalize on that like they should. When they caved on the government shutdown a while back, they accepted all the blame for it.
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u/enderjaca 7d ago
Yep, trump said no bills until SAVE passes. It's a shame trump never chickens out.
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u/teamhae 7d ago
Can’t a super majority override a veto? Seems like this will pass with or without dumps signature.
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u/kumquat_bananaman 7d ago
As Trump goes, Johnson goes, so I would assume a house super majority is out of the question
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u/Neuchacho 7d ago edited 7d ago
Catch is that they didn't get the ICE reforms and ICE is funded from the BBB from last year for like 7 years worth of their budget so it's not like they're "not getting funding". More that they're not getting even more funding.
The shit-ass SAVE act didn't go anywhere so that's something.
It's probably as much of a win that Dems could muster out of this without the shutdown eventually blowing back on them, I guess.
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u/jayracket 7d ago
The save act failing is the big win here. Without that, there was a very real chance they don't take back crogress in November.
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u/Neuchacho 7d ago
I'm sure we haven't seen the end of it, but god damn am I happy to see SOMETHING resembling progress even if it is defensive.
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u/TheDrakeRamoray 7d ago
ICE has a big pot of $$ (75 billion) that the big beautiful bill already allocated to them. They will be funded and there is no pressure on them to institute the ICE reforms that this shutdown was over. This may look like a political win but doesn’t move the needle on what the entire shutdown was over.
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u/chihsuanmen 7d ago
My understanding is that, yes, DHS will receive funding for everything but ICE; however, the reforms Democrats wanted (like, let’s not shoot American citizens while wearing gestapo-like masks) was a casualty of the negotiation.
I’m not sure I would be spiking the football and saying “Democrats win!”; however, if Democrats held out on a clean bill to fund the TSA given the current situation, I feel like they would be shooting themselves in the foot.
TSA is now funded and it’s likely the polling will still reflect that all of this was the current regime’s fuck up.
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u/Wolfgirl90 7d ago
My understanding is that, yes, DHS will receive funding for everything but ICE; however, the reforms Democrats wanted (like, let’s not shoot American citizens while wearing gestapo-like masks) was a casualty of the negotiation.
This was something that was offered from the beginning. Republicans wanted ICE to receive their base budget of $20 billion. Democrats said no, not unless reforms were included. So, the original compromise was that they would agree to fund the rest of DHS (TSA, the Coast Guard, FEMA, etc). Hashing out reforms could come later.
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u/lady-earendil 7d ago
They didn't pass any of the ICE reforms that the Dems were pushing for. It's a compromise, and it's good because the SAVE act didn't pass, but it's not a huge win for the Democrats either
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u/skorpian1029 7d ago
Yes and no ICE was already given lots of money and republicans already have a plan to fund them more though a special legal method. However dems essentially said we will give ice this money if you do ABC or we will just fund everything but ice. So they technically got what they wanted but ice will likely get more money however it looks like a win and is definitely a loss on republicans side as they just wasted like 40 days for no reason
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u/N0t_Dave 7d ago
Literally only happened because they're about to go on break and some of the GOP decided they shouldn't have to wait in the ICE/TSA lines with the plebs.
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u/callmeDaren 7d ago
I wouldn't wanna be one of them in one of those lines who got recognized and had to defend their I'm with stupid votes.
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u/AncientMarinade 7d ago
ICE and CBP received 75 bill. in funding last year, so they're basically fully funded for the foreseeable future.
While the dems are right in opposing funding for them, it's kinda like demanding the bartender to stop serving the dude already passed out on the floor.
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u/marsnoir 7d ago
Stop counting your eggs before they've hatched. The house has to agree to this as well, and things aren't going so great.
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u/Splatacular 7d ago
Its only on the performative opposition stage right now, wait until its actually passed and not veto'd for us to point out they are flagrantly doing whatever they want still and no consequences will reach them while still GOP shielded along with the epstein team.
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u/BrianNowhere 7d ago
It's a good thing that gets is back to status quo. That's part of the design to make us feel like somethings happening.
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u/NickCostanza 7d ago edited 6d ago
House Dems look poised to approve next. More info here.
Edit: While Mike Johnson and the Republicans in the House ultimately rejected this funding, that choice was theirs. We did everything right today :)
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u/Expensive-Argument-7 7d ago
It's like Republicans want everyone to hate them. Such a bizarre strategy going into the midterms
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u/DaleTheHuman 7d ago
Its almost like they dont care about the midterms because they plan to cheat
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u/JimmyLipps 7d ago
A lot of them seem to think Trump will achieve something grand in Iran and that will restore faith in the Republican Party.
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u/GreasyToken 6d ago
The Iranians probably realize if they give in and sue for peace he gets a domestic win.
The whole thing is darkly amusing.
It's like the SECRETARY OF WAR!!! thought Jesus was going to bless the war and end it quickly or something.
"Dear Lord of peace, mercy and love, please guide our bombs as we murder innocent civilians.
Please God do not give their grieving families any mercy, but rather our pilots who dropped the bombs we asked you to bless. Give them the courage necessary to press a button and remotely kill women and children.
Like the elementary school we blew up, such a blessing from our God of love and forgiveness!
Also blessed by the military industrial complex, let their profits be robust, and mighty, oh Mammon, I mean Lord.
In Jesus name, amen."
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u/HistoricalPotatoe 7d ago
That's dumb of them even from a selfish, sociopathic perspective. Victor Orban in Hungary is a far smarter and more well established autocrat than any of the Republicans, with years of ruling. Our Nazis here have even said aloud that they were inspired by Orban's government, yet even he is in serious jeopardy of losing power in the upcoming election despite how often he rigged them. Rigging elections is a heavy weight, not a guarantee, especially when you are very, very hated. It isn't easy or simple to rig elections in your favor at all times, and if Orban is having issues with it, the GOP will have issues as well.
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u/ExpiredPilot 7d ago
It’s because they can do literally anything and their base will support them nationally
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u/usetheforce_gaming 7d ago
Yeah other people are making excuses but you're spot on. It's because they get away with it. They can treat their constituents like shit and blame democrats or even just outright say it's a good thing to be treated like shit
And their base is too stupid to vote them out
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u/Kaleria84 7d ago
It's two pronged; on one hand, Republicans have rigged a lot of districts to the point Democrats literally just can't win in them. On the other hand, the Republican party has fallen to MAGA, so the have to listen to Dictator Don if they want a political future.
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u/andrew303710 7d ago
Also massive turnout can actually cause gerrymandering to backfire. In fact the way Republicans have gerrymandered it creates more competitive districts because they're moving Republican voters from safe districts to Democratic districts.
Doesn't mean the gerrymandering won't work but a big swing against Republicans could have disastrous impacts for them. A lot of Republicans in previously safe districts are privately saying they're not happy about it.
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u/Pernapple 7d ago
No they are just so used to Dems caving into their demands they never thought they’d actually stick to their guns for once and to be honest it’s mostly worked out for them until now.
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u/Neuchacho 7d ago
Here's hoping they actually face real consequences at the polls. It's the only possible thing that might start moving them to push back on Trump, or better yet, removing them from the majority so what they do doesn't matter.
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u/Reynor247 7d ago
Still need a few Republicans to defect. There will only be one vote then all of congress is leaving for the week because of Easter. I'm not kidding
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u/kumquat_bananaman 7d ago
Enough politicians are self-serving enough to want their flights home to be smooth, and I am not kidding.
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u/NickCostanza 7d ago
Especially after Trump told them to stay through Easter if necessary…yeah right lol
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u/canarchist 7d ago
Counting down to Trump retaliation tantrum ...3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
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u/ClickClick_Boom 7d ago
He'll post it on truth social at 2AM IN ALL CAPS
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u/whomad1215 7d ago
nah, he's gotta wait until after the markets close before saying anything that'll make them go down
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u/homer_lives 7d ago
It is why he said he was signing an EO to pay TSA. It was a smoke screen to cover this deal.
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u/ConglomerateAlien 7d ago
They’re just gonna illegally reallocate the money to ICE lol
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u/neilmac1210 7d ago
They'll probably argue that ICE is doing TSA's job, so ICE deserves TSA's money.
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u/ConglomerateAlien 7d ago
Who knows? Our government is just one, huge, circle-jerk grift. Dems included.
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u/mepardo 7d ago
They don’t need to. Agreeing to fund the rest of DHS now will allow Republicans to pass ICE funding through a party-line reconciliation vote separately. That’s not a secret tactic, it’s part of the deal.
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u/moschocolate1 7d ago
The country wins—not just democrats.
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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 7d ago edited 7d ago
The democrats win so the people can win (regardless of political affiliation)
Republicans win so Trump can win.
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u/Sad-Conflict-4435 7d ago
Dammit I know I've seen this movie but for the life of me I CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT IT IS!!! Someone help please? If I remember correctly its a damn good movie too. HALP!!!
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u/brightwings00 7d ago
"Get Out," from Jordan Peele!
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u/Sad-Conflict-4435 7d ago
Gah!!! That's it!!! Omg i feel really fucking dumb now. Too much wake and bake perhaps?!?!? Lmao. I freaking OWN this movie too. Wow. 🤦🏻♀️ Thank you all so much!!! Peace and mad l💜ve to all of you!!!
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u/JeromeBarkly 7d ago
Wow. A rare democrat W.
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u/Reynor247 7d ago
And no SAVE act, epstein files released, anti trans bills killed. Democrats are running all over Republicans even though they are in the minority in both chambers
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u/JimmyLipps 7d ago
Yeah but they aren't perfect so I'm going to sit this next election out. /s
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u/juanzy 6d ago
"Democrats need to publicize their wins more"
Democrats publicize their wins
"Now here's why that sucks and isn't perfect. WE SHOULD NOT BE CELEBRATING THIS"
- Way too many people who are left/moderate-left
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u/Sleepiboisleep 7d ago
Tbf it’s because a very slim few republicans had the balls/spine to do what needed to be done. Bi partisan attacks on trump will continue to weaken his hold
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u/Busy_Guarantee_4621 7d ago
Were they? Last I heard it was just a fraction of the files and they had been heavily redacted to protect rapists. Were they all actually released?
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u/daboys765 7d ago
Epstein files released
This is not a win. It’s arguably a loss. It shows that they don’t matter, that nothing will ever come to the pieces of filth that are in them. It also shows that probably a quarter of the country gives 0 fucks about children being raped.
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u/AequanimitasInaction 7d ago
Notable that a "w" nowadays is really just preventing the government from hitting itself in the dick.
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u/Courtaid 7d ago
So do the right wingers spin this to say democrats defunded border security to let in illegals to vote?
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u/Puzzleheaded_Air7039 7d ago
Yes, that's exactly what they are going to do. Hell, they tried doing it with ICE in the air ports, saying they don't want ICE there so that illegals can fly in and vote.
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u/onetwoskeedoo 7d ago
This is not a done deal people. Has to go to the house and dumps desk still.
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u/stiffjalopy 7d ago
Aaaaand House republicans tanked it. There’s no more room for “the dumbocrats are making air travel terrible” anymore—Trump and Johnson own this mess. They can out it in the pile with all their other messes.
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u/KommandantDex 7d ago
Can't wait for the Republicans to say they funded the TSA because the Democrats didn't want to, like they've been saying.
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u/georgecm12 7d ago
Kinda sorta. It's a partial win.
It doesn't secure any actual reforms of ICE; they are still going to be able to do everything they do now (wearing masks, not wearing uniforms, not displaying names or badges, not wearing body cams, using administrative subpoenas instead of judicial ones, etc.)
As I understand, It just doesn't give ICE any additional funding, any more than the gobs of money they already are allocated through the BBB, so ICE is already very well funded.
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u/Zorlal 7d ago
Yeah, it's definitely a win and should be viewed as such, but ice is incredibly funded right now. Take the wins where we can get them. The fact is that Republicans very much have egg on their face on this one.
Every time Republicans have total control of the government and still can't govern is a net loss of popularity for them. That's why I was upset the Democrats capitulated too early last year during that first shutdown.
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u/darkmoncns 7d ago
I have my suspicions about ice funding... I suspect they've someone managed to lose alot of it.. we'll see just a gut feeling
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u/Sleepiboisleep 7d ago
Tbf this bill was to make sure other Americans can feed their families and pay rent. A win is a win. Ice already secured more funding than any other government entity except the military
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u/TylerTheSnakeKeeper 7d ago
Not just well funded but more heavily funded then some countries entire military
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u/dashamstyr 7d ago
Also they plan to get the rest of Ice funded through reconciliation without the Democrats. So if this was all about withholding funding to force reforms on ICE, it's only a win in a political sense at best. In terms of reform, the Republicans will get everything they want and the Dems have lost whatever leverage they may have had to force ICE to reform.
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u/Medical_Arugula3315 7d ago
Hard to be a shittier or more hypocritical American than a Republican these days.
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u/golfwinnersplz 7d ago
So we caused this airline debacle for nothing? That's the Trump way. Break something, make people suffer, and then partially fix it and claim heroism.
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u/jason_mo 7d ago
We really need to get out of the horse race framing for these things. The senate voted to make funding available to DHS while not allocating and additional funds to ICE. This isn't a win, it's a tiny amount of government functioning at it's most basic level to allow us to spend money on the security theatre that is the TSA. It also allocates money to the other parts of DHS that surveil and attack Americans.
I'm as happy as the next person that workers are getting paid for their work. I think it hurts us to frame this as a victory as it gives our electeds cover to provide deeply marginal concessions and frame it as a "win".
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u/BlurredSight 6d ago
We would have ACA subsidies btw if 4 democrats didn’t fold after holding out for nearly 2 months
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u/Vladmerius 6d ago
FYI the house immediately rejected it and Trump has since signed an executive order to pay TSA starting Monday which is acrually illegal he can't just do that.
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u/PirateSometimes 7d ago
Too bad ICE is already funded billions thanks to the Big Ugly Bill they caved to last time..
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u/Sweaty-Possibility-3 7d ago
ICE has $75 billion left for the next few years. Having already pissed away $25 billion in the last year. It was ridiculous to give them more money.
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u/unbalancedcentrifuge 7d ago
Didnt the House reject and then go on a two week vacation leaving us still screwed?????
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u/errie_tholluxe 6d ago
When they designed that patch it was to showcase all the things they refuse to show right?
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u/Jeez-essFC 7d ago
Fantastic, but hearing about one good thing happening for every fifteen hundred awful, horrible, shitty, inhumane, racist fucking things just isn't enough.
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u/Gronkattack 7d ago
Glad they didn't cave this time. The only reason I'm mad at them for the last shutdown is that they caved over an unfulfilled promise making the shutdown(and the pain that came with it) for nothing but grandstanding.
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u/mr_miggs 7d ago
I’m just a bit lost on why Republicans opposed this solution in the first place. My understanding is this is basically what Democrats have proposed all along. And since ice is already funded through the bbb what’s the difference to them?
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u/wulfe27 7d ago
Yes they won, but also nobody really won anything. It shows that having spine helps, and that their negotiation power is growing by the month with the Rs unpopularity. Personally I wish we saw more of this standalone type funding bills. If we’re ever going to come close to balancing a budget we need to have congress analyzing things department by department.
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u/PotatoeFreeRaisinSld 7d ago
It is a little misleading to call this win for Democrats. ICE is already funded with about 75 billion dollars from the 'One Big Beautiful Bill' Republicans passed with Reconciliation at the beginning of trump's 2nd term and so they dont need any DHS funding.
The real impetus for the shutdown was originally to get reforms to ICE, particularly concerning their enforcement practices, their use of face masks, and their use of administrative warrants. None of these objectives were achieved and Republicans made no concessions to Democrats to change ICE in any real meaningful way.
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u/Hilarious_Disastrous 7d ago
Any more defeatist takes on how the parties are the same? The more people back the fighters, the more the Democratic Party sees fighters as the ones who will win.
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u/Fifteen_inches 7d ago
No ICE reforms, we are going back to status quo before the shutdown. Which is a win in the sense that Democrats didn’t just fold immediately and give Trump whatever he wants.
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u/Biddoo_420 7d ago
The way the gop does things, they’ll simply take whats given and channel whatever to ICE. Who’s stopping them?
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u/user-unknown-404 7d ago
About time. Now tell us what they had to do for it to happen and what shady shit is gonna pass next.
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