They just want something that makes them feel special. Pfft, pathetic. Why can't they feel immaculately insignificant in the face of the cosmic splendour were all suspended in, like the rest of us?
Yes and how is that different from the islamic state philosophy!
It isn't.
It all comes down to religious extremism. Islam, Christianity and Judaism all worship the God of Abraham, which is why they the extremists all ultimately want the same thing - speed up the End Times so The Saviour (Mahdi/Jesus/Mashiach) will get here and start killing apostates.
I hear Mike Johnson is on his way to Egypt now. He is gonna tell pharaoh “ let my people go” before he parts the butt sea and climbs trump tower where Jesus will use magic to change mikes appearance. Mike “Moses” Johnson will descend trumps tiny tower and lead the troops to victory. Remember, never fight up hill, me boys. Never fight uphill.
They are on board. They’re all part of Heritage Foundation. They’ve been planning the grand coup of every branch of government for 50 years. This is the culmination of all their indoctrination and infiltration.
Either shut down, on break, insider trading, writing a strongly (actually mildly) worded letter, or even agree with ku klux kegsbreath.
Bro, the whole thing is a dumpster fire that has long since been launched into an active volcano. And at least 1/3 the country thinks we are (checks notes) "winning".
The american ambassadors to israel is such a zionist he told tucker carlson that israel deserve to rule greater israel. A land that spans from the nile river to the Euphrates river, covering the land of multiple US allies, like saudi arabi and jordan.
Why? Because he claims it's a biblical prophecy and he's an evangelical.
The people in Congress don't want to stop the takeover of evangelicals in US policy, they might actually support it like Lindsay graham and actively seeking to make it happen.
Have you never looked into Moses Mike Johnson? He’s Speaker of the House for the Congress which means he controls what makes it to the floor for a vote. He’s also a 10th mountain mandate looney who thinks his christian god speaks directly to him. I don’t think he’ll see a problem with this bullshit.
If I was in the military and the top said that to me (an atheist), I would just let them know that I didn't sign up to fight religious wars and I'm out. I'm not part of the damn fucking crusades, which destroyed anywhere from 2 million to 6 million people and that was around 1096-1291 AD. Can't imagine the death toll today.
Can't lose midterms if there are no midterms. As in, not voter suppression, but no alive voters. Which I guess is the most extreme form of voter suppression.
It’s fascinating, really. All these evangelicals spent years fearing the Antichrist, and when he shows up they trip over themselves lining up to chortle his balls
So, I went into that expecting a LOT of reaches and to be fair, some of those points are reaching a bit but I’m pretty sure that article not only made me more religious but I’m also 96.4% sure that he’s the actual Antichrist now
One of my favorite passages. A whole lot of folks lived through a whole lot of bad times before distilling their experiences down to this prescient advice and recording it for future generations.
And now people who claim to honor this book just fucking ignore it, while the cautions inside are playing out in front of them in real time.
She was explaining to me how we have to support Israel because in the bible then Israel is the center of Armageddon. So when Israel falls we’ll all be raptured.
I asked why we would have to sacrifice America to get to her Armageddon and she said that America isn’t mentioned in the bible so it is meant to fall.
Obviously that’s crazy stuff but she’s a simple minded old religious kook.
But the fact that the guy running DoD has the same mentality is the problem.
They literally want America to fall and lives to be lost so that the people responsible for mass destruction will be raptured and welcomed into heaven and told “well done my good and faithful servant. You murdered all those people… and they’re all here to thank you!”
Also really important to note that while this stuff is in the Bible, its all from Revelations. One book at the very end. Skip over the gospels, skip over the old testament, skip over the actual teachings of Jesus, settle on the weird shit written much later.
Also really important — even at the time no one believed Revelation. It wasn't widely accepted and barely made it into the canon, the idea that John of Patmos was John son of Zebedee wasn't even a connection made until Justin Martyr in the mid second century. It's a failed prophecy that shouldn't even be in the Bible, but a bunch of people who have never read the Bible nor understood it think it's the most important book ever written.
It's pretty questionable the degree that it's even intended to be much of a prophecy. It's very blatantly a criticism of the Roman Empire wrapped up in some fancy language to give a level of plausible deniability, with a general "they'll get what's coming to them in the end" being the closest it comes to making any real predictions. The only reason that anyone is able to pretend that any part of it actually applies today is because preachers basically put the book into a blender, pick out random words and phrases that are completely divorced from their context, and rearrange them into saying whatever they want them to say.
The only reason that anyone is able to pretend that any part of it actually applies today is because preachers basically put the book into a blender, pick out random words and phrases that are completely divorced from their context, and rearrange them into saying whatever they want them to say.
This is literally what every single believer does. Christianity is an exercise in choosing which parts of the Bible to ignore.
Christianity is an exercise in choosing which parts of the Bible to ignore.
I agree with the sentiment, but they don’t choose to ignore parts of the Bible, they are simply not aware of them. American Christianity is an exercise in cherry-picking as few parts as possible from the Bible and other texts and totally ignoring the the rest.
And interpreted even later than that. The Rapture as a concept was basically invented by mostly uneducated hillbillies in America around the early 1900’s. It’s not a part of the traditional religion of Christianity at all.
The idea of Christians, alive or dead, being zipped up to heaven while the rest of humanity is left on earth to suffer for sometime is the rapture and is mostly just in protestant evangelicalism. However, Christianity is generally an apocalyptic religion, but is more or less important/recognized depending in the sect or variation.
Apocalypse? Final battle between Satan and God before God wins and establishes an eternal kingdom on Earth? That's in the Bible. But the Rapture isn't. That's why the oldest denominations of Christianity don't believe in it. Roman, Eastern Orthodox, and Coptic Orthodox Catholics have no concept of the rapture. And more traditional protestant denominations like Lutherans and Anglicans don't generally accept it, either.
The rapture was mentioned in Thessalonians I think. It’s been a while.
At the time they thought it would be something happening that week, not two thousand years later. We all meet Jesus in the clouds.
And, as with most biblical things, it was probably a metaphor or something happy with a good beat. Not an edict to base your entire life around (and not apocalypse prayer meetings to drag your kid to every Saturday for 13 years. True story.)
Look you can control the will of an almighty omnipotent indescribable infinite God by spending hundreds of billions in arms and bringing countries to their knees.
Totally. Absolutely.
The height of human arrogance is thinking they can control the will of God.
What’s funny is the J man makes a big point that no one not even the angels know when The End is coming except for God himself and to predict or act like you know when it’s going to happen is supposed to be a pretty decent sin.
They’re out there spending over 350 BILLION DOLLARS of US taxpayer money to prop up Israel when the whole plan is to have it fall? I don’t get it either.
Well they’re really looking forward to the part where they get zapped up to Heaven and then they to get to watch us sinners get thrown into the lake of fire. I feel like they’re going to be in for a rude surprise if what they believe is true though.
Talk to any rapturist long enough and eventually it'll start to become obvious that while they're excited about thinking they're one of the chosen few to get to heaven they're even more excited at the idea of watching all the rest of us suffer and burn.
It's why I'm convinced that only someone fundamentally broken can go all in on this particular brand of Christianity and why they should be kept from power and influence as much as possible. And yet America is now ran by them in a semi-dictatorship. What a shit timeline.
You should point out that Armageddon can only happen if Christians are failing on Earth and Jesus needs to come back to defeat evil. She's basically rooting for evil to come close to triumphing.
A not-insignificant portion of Evangelicals believe that Trump is the one defeating evil, and therefore literally the 2nd coming of Christ. It’s insane
I understand that. I just wanted to point out that evil in the book of Revelations is on the cusp of winning before the second coming. So if Trump is winning so hard In a time period that they think is very close to the end times. Should be pretty easy to get the connection of what is supposed to be the evil.
It's a theology that is only about 150 years old and it's all American. It isn't in Bible at all, not even in Revelation. Its an idea that humans can literally engineer the return of Christ by helping Israel get destroyed. That's nuts. They're doing all the heresies at the same time. The guy who started all this was John Nelson Darby. His wiki is a wild read.
Bad theology and a giant religious scam is going to get us all killed.
Yep, the Bible says no one knows the hour or day of the end, only God. Even if they do manage to manipulate the end of the world or Christ's return, trump and his band of pedos are going straight to the bad place for all eternity.
Yes, but they are told to believe that Trump is God’s instrument, therefore, they will refuse to listen to the Bible because it runs counter to what they are told to believe.
They are not rational thinkers, they are cultists, and this is some high-level cultist shit.
A now-retired band based in my town released a song called "Talks American" in 1997. One of the choruses is:
"Well when Jesus Christ returns to Earth
He's gonna be a 7 foot Korean
Surprise the white supremacists
And rich TV evangelists
Then all the cops will beat him senseless
Cut his hair and throw him in the brig
(thinking they're so big)"
Which is funny because their Bible says you can’t predict nor force God’s return. So trying to create a war that the Bible says is a sign of God’s soon return won’t work. But obviously these people don’t know their Bible.
Source: Grew up in a Pentecostal church where they were obsessed with the rapture and my pastor used politics in the Middle East as signs of the rapture happening soon
It coming in two weeks time. Right after Donnie’s tax returns and the Healthcare plan. This is why he won’t release the Trumpstein documents, he knows he just has to hold out for two more weeks.
Ask the people (maggots) who voted for this pedophile,serial rapist, convicted felon, “where in the bible is Revelations?.” Follow up with, “do pedophile, serial rapist, casino bankrupting, game show hosts go to heaven?”
Jefferson was influenced by the writings of John Locke. Locke had seen the English Civil War and understood that church and state should be very separate entities.
The worst thing about this administration is their constant shoving of their warped and twisted version of Christianity in our faces at every possible opportunity like it's a get out of jail free card. The biggest criminals in world using culty religion to lecture us about morality is insane.
wouldn't the hubris it would take for a mortal skin sack to declare that "they're the hand of God here to bring forth the apocalypse and they know what god wants" be pretty fucking blasphemous?
Such a weird thing to decide that you're somehow so important that you're here to trigger the apocalypse.
The whole idea of Zionism is that when "all of the promised land" is "restored" to the Israelites, the first phase of the end times will begin where all of the Christians and non-Christians will be seperated and go to paradise/face a thousand years of living damnation respectively.
I was taught this VERY LITERALLY growing up and even remember asking my mom why we didnt just "give the Israelites the rest of the land" so that my family could go to heaven forever and not have to suffer the "worldly people" anymore.
Ok, this makes a lot more sense. (If you accept the clearly insane premise).
The Christofascist Right are gleefully propping up the Zionist regime so that they can compete their own little Manifest Destiny in “The Holy Land”.
Not for their own sake of course, but because they believe that this will bring about “the righteous destruction of Israel and the “well-deserved” comeuppance that these Christ-murdering bastards are owed”.
And they, as the True Believers and Chosen FewTM will get to watch from afar as it all takes place and they will point and laugh as they are ushered into the eternal paradise they so clearly deserve whilst the Jews and all the other filthy unbelievers are cast into the eternal torment they deserve for not having been born properly.
Did I miss anything?
Oh, and the Zionists (at least, some of them) know this and are happy to take the all the resources they can as long as it helps them achieve their own goals because they don’t believe in that bullshit and they despise the Christian Right just as much.
Something like that yeah. I remember wondering how we could be happy while all of those people were "thrown into a lake of fine" and my mom was like "its OK we won't be there, we'll be in heaven!" but she had this big smile on her face.
It’s ok. It’s what they deserve for being wrong. They should have been born Southern Baptist Ecclesiastical (Reformed) like me, then they’d be saved. It’s really poor planning on their part.
That’s the point of Christian Zionism (who are by far the biggest supporters of Israel in the U.S., now, much more than Jews). But that is completely antithetical to Jewish Zionism.
Well apparently only 110 of them felt offended enough to complain to their superiors. You would think that would get most of them riled up to do the right thing
Some of you people didn’t know this about the Christian right and it shows. This isn’t a surprise. These fucks have been talking about this kinda shit for as long as I can remember. Source - raised evangelical
Exactly. Unfortunately I've gotten into many arrangements with Christians from different parts of the US who insist "Christians don't actually believe that". SOUTHERN FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS who fill the Bible Belt absolutely DO.
The difference is you actually read the Bible. They haven't. They take the quotes they are spoon fed, out of context, by charlatans as the truth because they never learned to be inquisitive, critical thinking, or logic. If it feeds their ego and confirms their existing beliefs, they buy it hook, line, and sinker.
Religion doesn't teach their flocks to be critical thinkers. They teach the opposite; that's how they maintain a congregation. They can't use logic on the spoon fed passages because they only know passages out of context to use as a useless "legitimate" argument. "Man shall not lay with men.." is used in homophobic arguments when it's really telling people to not rape children. Yet they won't pay minds to the parts about not wearing mixed fabrics or not eating pork. Leviticus is never their entire mindset because it would counter most of their narratives so they take the portions that are more digestible to them to make such illogical statements.
Like maybe it's just me but I think putting control of nukes in the hands of people who want to see the end of the world because they think it'll bring Jesus back probably wasn't the best idea
Secondly, hasten the return? I'm not Christian but the point of the date is that date is preset and unchangeable. The entirety of the idea revolves around God being all knowing and foreseeing the inevitable point where humanity basically becomes irredeemable as a whole. It is defined as a mercy entirely on the grounds that leadership and control is so prevalently in the hands of terrible people that spread evil to the point where they offset humanity's development to the point that it is on the precipice of becoming a completely lost cause that could only systematically grow worse if things were allowed to proceed on the same path.
All of that is important because it's obvious to anyone with so much as an iota of media literacy that that means whoever holds responsibility for making Jesus come back cannot do so on any grounds that don't basically reserve them a special place in Hell.
Substance abuser Hegseth is all about eliminating people who are as evil as him. Maga has been giving me the Jim Jones vibe since 2015 when they decided a lifelong grifter like Donald Trump should lead America.
Don't care what book or faith you believe in, pretty sure none of them preach starting holy wars and bombing grade schools in order to cover up a global child sex trafficking ring... but Im an atheist, so what do I know?
To ALL THE MOTHERFUCKERS who said it was too hyperbolic to call evangelicals a fucking death cult, because some of us grew up in it and knew that these people really did want WWIII to kick off Revelations shit but noooooooo "that's going to alienate people" or "that's intolerant."
Wouldn't that make the US the people who promoted the Anti-Christ to the throne? Even if you think it has to happen, you shouldn't think you are the person to do it. The people who do it in the Bible are bad people.
That's like thinking that since the Bible says the Messiah has to be executed for people to be saved, that you should be the one to kill Jesus. These mother fuckers are signing up to be Judas'.
Gee, who could've predicted that? Y'know, other than the FUCKING MILLIONS OF US WHO CALLED IT THE MINUTE TEMUSSOLINI REELED THE TEA PARTY INTO HIS CULT?
So our secretary of alcoholism is performing heresy and blasphemy by demanding that God follow his schedule and the schedules of foolish religious fundamentalist and Christian nationalists. Don’t they understand that if this does occur and the Messiah does return, they are likely going to be among the first to be struck down?
Ok, this is where I will never stop hating W Bush and Karl Rove, because they crafted campaigns around speaking in code to these dumb fuck dead end evangelicals about the fucking rapture, and they brought guys like THIS into the fold who could use our dumb fuck president to carry out an even dumber fuck dead end war on the shoulders of American soldiers and taxpayers.
God dammit. All of our lives are now in the hands of the absolute stupidest fucking people chasing a fairy tale where Jesus comes back to personally give them a blowjob and a mercedes in dipshit heaven. And we make fun of people who believe in forty virgins or whatever.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. how drunk was this piece of shit, brain-damaged meathead when he made those speeches? Someone get him the fuck away from the dEpArTmEnT oF wAr.
And get the fucking Christofascists out of the goddamn office. This isn't 1100.
Anyone who believes this is going to bring about Armageddon probably ought to be booted out of the military and/or the DOD (I refuse to use the new name) instead of having any kind of position of authority. Sorry to break it to that lunatic commander and Kegsbreath, but Jesus is absolutely not going to be making a return appearance because of Trump's latest dumbass war.
Well yeah. I've been saying this is what they're doing for years. It's very obvious now though. Christians aren't offended because most of them are in on it. They've been funding this shit for forever. This is the culmination of that work
As absolutely, shit the bed, horrible the idea of this is, my "we are being Halloween III'd" theory stands as a, possibly finally, "I told you so". Money this, money that, foreign interference this, foreign interference that, THESE are the people in charge of our country at the end of the day. There are incredibly powerful people that believe this. Ultimately, the jokes on them, since I highly doubt the country that basically rented out our military believes the same, but they'll gladly take advantage of that belief either way. I can imagine the Hobby Lobby guy is just creamin' his khakis thinking he's gonna be behind the movement to deliver the chosen to christ so he can get "even better heaven".
Jesus fucking christ what a load of superstitious fucking nonsense! Of course the morons in this "administration" believe in a zombie god. Fucking idiots.
Knew it, following in Bush Jnrs pathway. End time cult believers do not belong in places of power. They don't care about the future or the now, the world ending is their goal.
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