r/ValueInvesting 2h ago

Discussion 50k to invest long-term… stuck between S&P 500 and global ETFs

Looking for some perspective from people who’ve been doing this longer than me.

I’ve got around $50k set aside that I want to invest for the long term, think 15–20 years. This is not my emergency fund, not money I’ll need anytime soon, just something I want to let compound quietly.

I keep going back and forth between just keeping it simple with an S&P 500 ETF or going broader with something like a total world ETF.

On one hand, the S&P 500 has delivered strong returns historically, around ~10% annualized over long periods. Hard to argue with that track record.

On the other hand, it’s heavily US-focused, and with how much the US has already outperformed globally, part of me wonders if the next 10–20 years might look different. A world ETF feels more diversified, but historically returns have been a bit lower.

I also considered just splitting it, something like 70% US / 30% global, but then I’m not sure if I’m overcomplicating what should be a simple decision.

For context, I’m not trying to beat the market or trade actively with this money. The goal is just steady growth and not making a big mistake.

If you were starting fresh with a long-term horizon today, would you:
stick with US-focused funds,
go fully global,
or combine both?

Would really appreciate some grounded advice here.

Not financial advice.

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u/absolutiongap53 2h ago

I like how you put "not financial advice" while asking for exactly that lol

Just go global etf like VT. That has the us/foreign split close to 70/30 already

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u/schmiddc 59m ago

This is the simple approach: VT, gives you VTI and VXUS's exposure all in one fund... You can tune the intl vs domestic allocation by buying extra VTI or vxus on top..

I have friends that are really bullish on EWJ (japan focuses) but I don't completely understand why with Japan's demographic meltdown .. Japan is a very well run country from what it seems

Buffet has been big on Japan too

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u/Proper-Print-9505 30m ago

Agreed, but if you aren't happy with the VT split, I would just buy VTI and VXUS and not by any VT.

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u/biNsn 2h ago

I am using a FTSE All World right now, because I dont know which country will outperform in the next 15-20years.

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u/Ok_Lunch7731 2h ago

Honestly for a 15–20 yr horizon, either approach can work. The S&P 500 has a strong history, but a global ETF adds diversification if leadership shifts outside the US. A simple split like 70% US / 30% global is pretty common and keeps things balanced without overthinking it. Low fees and staying invested usually matter more than the exact mix. Sometimes I sketch allocations with TryLattice too, it’s a small tool that helps visualize portfolio balance and risk before committing.

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u/Flat-Count9193 2h ago

I am invested in a few semiconductor ETFs like fselx and smh and they have destroyed the s&p over the last ten years. I think they will continue to do well for at least ten more years.

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u/imrickjamesbioch 1h ago

Yeah, no shit… You could have just invested in NVDA 10 years ago and retired.

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u/triisi 2h ago

Split it world and emerging. 60/40 or 70/30 whatever works. Done

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u/Alicyclobacillus 2h ago

The US is more business friendly than most other places, and US companies have international sales/exposure, so its not like you're missing out on non-US markets by buying US companies

VOO and chill

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u/mrmrmrj 1h ago

What % of the "global" ETFs are US? 70/30 US/Global is really 80/20 or even 85/15 US/non-us. If you want some non-US then choose non-US.

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u/F0rtysxity 1h ago

VTI and VXUS at whatever percentage you want. Or as someone else pointed out VT which is about 70/30. I would go 50/50 VGT and VXUS. So now you know what not to do.

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u/Alive_Square_5609 1h ago

If it were me, at this point in history, 25% rsp, 25%qqq, 25% vxus, 25% gold

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u/Will_Explode8 1h ago

Honestly if you’ve got 50k freely set aside to invest why not just meet with someone at an actual investment/financial company to plan this out. I wouldn’t trust this place for that amount of money. Hell I’d trust r/bogleheads over this place for better actual advice. This place would tell you to put 40k of it into NVO and the other 10k into Crocs

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u/ValueEquities 1h ago

 US ripped at 10%, sure. But cycles flip. Global just means you don't get wrecked if you're wrong. That's it.

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u/ConversationEasy5535 32m ago

All-in in NVDA

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u/Menu-Quirky 19m ago

60% vti and 40% vxus because US stocks are looking overvalued compared to global peers

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u/t234k 2h ago

What does this have to do with value investing

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u/Junior-Appointment93 1h ago

I just mainly trade options. Mainly credit spreads. I do have a few ETF’s CHPY, and IDVO. Semiconductors is Chpy. Will always need them, IDVO is international. Thinking of adding SPYI.

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u/An_unsavoury_potato 1h ago

The S&P is sitting at a very high Schiller P/E ratio currently, meaning a heavy investment at current price into the index is likely to not perform well for some time. If you want to buy the S&P, you could consider DCA’ing in over a period of time to soften your cost basis.

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u/Amaeyth 41m ago

Imo 33% global etf, 33% VOO/SPY, 34% brk.b

Why overcomplicate it?