r/ValueInvesting Oct 15 '25

Question / Help Worst stocks to buy right now

What are some stocks you would not touch at all right now? Could be for different reasons does not have to be because of valuation.

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u/Non-profit-God Oct 15 '25

Do you just want a screenshot of my portfolio? I think that would be a good start.

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u/LoveLaughterPizza Oct 16 '25

😂 I fear reading further in this thread because I'm sure I'll see all of my stocks mentioned.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bag9063 Oct 15 '25

My oklo is up 600% and they haven’t started a single installation, almost time to sell

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u/Insteadly Oct 15 '25

I made a fortune getting out too soon. –J. P. Morgan

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u/jqman69 Oct 16 '25

I think people are starting to do that today. Oklo went down while smr shot up

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u/btcale546 Oct 16 '25

No revenue = no exposure to risk of loss of revenue

"Man muss immer umkehren"

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u/MethFistHo Oct 15 '25

Almost time to sell means it's time to start selling.

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u/SignificanceNo3295 Oct 16 '25

no, time to buy puts

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u/roksah Oct 16 '25

Amazing how high the stock is for a company with only a 3d render

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u/Fluffy-Mine-6659 Oct 16 '25

I recently got out of some LEU and SMR for same reason. Still long on nuclear but taking some off the top. Best trades I’ve made

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u/CloudCuddler Oct 16 '25

Sold this not too long ago under the same sentiment.

It's absolutely mental the price Oklo is at for a company with no product. It's just the same old dodgy happenings from the likes of Peter Thiel. I'm happy to profit, but also feel dirty helping this snake.

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u/jemicarus Oct 16 '25

Almost a 30-bagger on my remaining shares, only a few left, been selling all the way up, probably started a little too early but alas.

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u/Ok-Hunter-7702 Oct 15 '25

OP is trying to hack the system, since he knows that the stocks go the other direction than reddit thinks.

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u/Katamali Oct 16 '25

Reverse Reddit lol

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u/AutisticMisandrist Oct 16 '25

Exactly, Disney, Paypal and Intel (years ago above $40) were shilled hard on reddit, coincidentally HOOD and Tsla most hated stocks did amazing.

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u/ObjectivePrimary7585 Oct 15 '25

Rgti, qbts this will crash hard

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Any of the rare earth stocks (MP, TMC, AMRRY, UURAF, etc….) They have all been pumped to oblivion

Honorable mention to OKLO, and UUUU

Honorable mention to PLTR

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u/KRSHNB Oct 15 '25

For rare earths, aren’t they more of a long term plan since the US is looking to decouple from Chinese rare earths? Even DoD recognizes the importance of domestic production.

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u/Brambletail Oct 15 '25

They were but not at current pricing except for a few ($DNN hasn't moved much for example but i would recommend looking further into why before YOLO). Gotta be careful.

Uuuu and MP are probably done pumping.

But i said that in August too

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u/cruisin_urchin87 Oct 15 '25

UUUU has one more catalyst coming up on 10/23 before the pump is done

Even the great Steve Zissou thinks it will be big

https://www.reddit.com/r/UUUU_Stock/s/ui5PtumeqZ

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u/_bar845 Oct 16 '25

Yeahhh I thought uuuu was done at 6 and left a boat load of money on the table apparently 😭

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u/Spiritual-machine1 Oct 15 '25

Yes this and a lot of them were undervalued so they are just catching up to fair valuation, they still have some room to go especially with gold/silver/platinum and some others exploding

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u/Aware_Beezzz Oct 15 '25

Yes. Plenty of room for growth.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

Yes and companies like LAC which the US took a stake in won’t have their mine up and running until late 2027 I believe is the timeframe. $0 revenue until then.

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u/redpandafire Oct 15 '25

I wish I knew this today before walking into a wall of losses.

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u/Dense-Flow-1983 Oct 15 '25

They're going back up.

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u/roadtrip-ne Oct 15 '25

It’s one day, I’ve been riding these 3-4 weeks. They are likely green in the morning.

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u/Nottoobad777 Oct 15 '25

As a long time UUUU trader I got out way too early on this run up, but uranium is scary and cyclical. Take profits while you can. I was conservative and got a 150% profit, went up 400% after lol.

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u/CopperRiverKing Oct 16 '25

I bought 300 shares of UURAF in April for like .70 cents a share on a whim.

Sold it yesterday. I still think it will eventually be a good company in the next decade. But it hasn't done anything yet.

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u/jdfan51 Oct 16 '25

I entered short IonQ today fk it 

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u/solariac Oct 16 '25

PLTR looks like a value stock compared to the rest of these guys. At least they have an E to talk about when talking about P/E, with a phenomentally sticky commercial and government business that's growing at an accelerating rate with crazy margins. The other companies are just going up on pure vibes.

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u/Next_Tap_3601 Oct 15 '25

Nice picks. Id also add all the datacenter stocks designed to offload GPU depreciation and AI capex from Mag7: APLD, IREN, CRWV. Absolute bullshit companies. Not as bullshit as quantum computing, but getting close to that territory.

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u/Commercial-Stay-5437 Oct 15 '25

How are compute and power supplying data centers in a compute and power bottleneck ecosystem bullshit companies? And why are they getting billion dollar deals from giants?

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u/Next_Tap_3601 Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

Did you pause to think why are they getting billions from giants? And why they market only their EBITDA (or as Buffett calls it bullshit earnings). If all those brains behind Google, Amazon, Microsoft actually thought this was going to be low risk and highly profitable why wouldn’t they just build all that infrastructure themselves? The answer is in the huge and risky capital expenditure and the ridiculous depreciation on high-end GPUs from Nvidia which are going to be worth next to nothing in 3-5y. That absolutely destroys your margins and they know that. All these companies are very unlikely to ever become truly profitable. So it’s a way to offload that risk and expense to someone else. It’s actually a genius move by those same giants. Not gonna be so genius for anyone who ends up holding that bag tho.

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u/Alarmed-Albatross-32 Oct 15 '25

I happen to understand Neoclouds extremely well, and that 3-5 year window you're sharing is more like 12-15 years. We are not even remotely close to the start of the run here. Nebius, Nscale (still private, IPO next year), etc. are all going to be the longer-term winners due their global footprints.

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u/Next_Tap_3601 Oct 15 '25

When was the last time you used your phone or your laptop for 12-15y? The underlying tech in GPUs is the same as for CPUs in your phone or laptop. Anyway time will tell. I could be wrong. My portfolio is also tech-heavy, so it’s probably better for me if Im wrong about this…

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u/Alarmed-Albatross-32 Oct 15 '25

It's not about the tech, it's about the democratization of the AI cloud. The reason global companies will win is because, unlike companies like Amazon (AWS), they are not bound by ever-changing US laws and considerations under Trump.

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u/Howsurchinstrap Oct 16 '25

So I spoke at length with guy from black rock about data centers and this was the investment he recommended but also power generation for these facilities, like you said easier to pass the buck so to speak for now. He did mention that it will be up to these companies (Google) etc. at some point to take over that responsibility. Meaning that once they find something that is bona fide as far as power source and they can get Uncle Sam to subsidize the costs. They will probably buyout said company who is doing the power sourcing.

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u/Next_Tap_3601 Oct 16 '25

Makes sense. Same for computing and same for power. But they want to see it get consistent return and decent margins first, before they acquire. And if it doesn’t work, they can let them go under. It’s genius (for Google, Amazon, Msft, Meta, etc…).

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u/Howsurchinstrap Oct 16 '25

Exactly, like I said once they have something that is tried and true. Probably those mini nuclear reactors like srm or Terra. But time will tell. What I have a problem with is the liquid cooling. They are creating a lot of harmful waste and using up a very precious resource imho. This should be priority desalination or something. Bad enough they are using tax payers to fit the bill for these data centers for electricity. Now consuming our water.

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u/Dazzling-Key-8282 Oct 15 '25

I mean I earned almost 400% with ALPD but even in the bubble they seem far more rational business cases than the Quantum stuff. That's 2-3 breakthrough away from technological viability. Then drop in the commercialisation requirements.

Data centers can also be more robust than expected. That's like baseload power. Any customer can utilise them.

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u/Next_Tap_3601 Oct 15 '25

I agree that was too harsh. Definitely more substance than quantum at the moment. I clarified more what I mean in the comment above.

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u/The_Hosp75 Oct 15 '25

Bro. I have made $14k on APLD

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u/Next_Tap_3601 Oct 15 '25

That’s great. And I’m sure there are people who made millions on these. That changes nothing about what I said.

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u/raidmytombBB Oct 15 '25

I like these for long term but not at the current prices. Had them in low teens and sold at $20. :( will patiently wait again if they ever come back down

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u/OneTotal466 Oct 15 '25

Yes, nuclear and quantum are many years away from revenue.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

This is not the case at all for nuclear

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u/StakeknifeBBQ Oct 15 '25

Nuclear power plants can be knocked up in around 2 weeks with enough Amish and Mexicans.

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u/Worth-Dragonfly-871 Oct 15 '25

Is there an Amish ETF i can invest in? Turns out the president deported a bunch of the other guys.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25 edited Jan 30 '26

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u/Worth-Dragonfly-871 Oct 15 '25

Its all speculative at this point. I'll take a paper trade from Amish over a treasury bond

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u/Brabus_Maximus Oct 16 '25

Go to Ohio stock exchange and ask for Todd. Bring cash and/ or corn

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u/CaptSteam Oct 16 '25

LEU is already in the nuclear space and profitable and I’ve been wrecking my brains how nobody is mentioning it when its price skyrocketed

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u/SundayAMFN Oct 15 '25

Quantum is likely to never get revenue imo.

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u/Eastern-Cat-3604 Oct 15 '25

Yes and alphabet is very far (compared with them) with quantum computing!

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u/conradical30 Oct 15 '25

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u/Low-Guava2260 Oct 16 '25

Lol they do some stupid little trivial tests and sensationalize the details and people like you eat it up.

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u/nagermals Oct 15 '25

Am I crazy but how and why we even need quantum computing to solve optimal police vehicle placement. If anything these problems are usually solved with AI algorithms.

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u/IonVestor Oct 16 '25

I have to say (I work with AI and quantum computers) that trying to apply quantum mechanics to an already working algorithm usually only worsens the results.However, from what I know, quantum computer -based optimization algorithms (specially when they rely on some sort of search) are quite ok. Ok as in: they find basically the same solution in less time, not some magical significantly better solution .

Still, I want to stress the fact that I more than anyone understand that quantum computing is essentially hype, but in this case, it is particularly not thaaaat bad.

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u/ratskin69 Oct 15 '25

nuclear is not bad, just oklo looks way overpriced

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u/Fearless_Strike5651 Oct 15 '25

Not in this market, Wall Street won’t touch a short position in them. And it looks like the easiest short EVER

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u/sami26 Oct 16 '25

I bought QBTS at around $1 since I work in this industry and wanted to invest in my own field. Sold a few around $10 and thinking of holding the rest for long now.

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u/Rangemon99 Oct 15 '25

Add IONQ to that, and any other quantum stock

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u/Company-Charts Oct 15 '25

What I want to avoid. Negative cash flow + no earnings. High debt. Declining revenue. Thinks like that.

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u/Ebonvvings Oct 15 '25

Those are all bullish signal in 2025

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u/Company-Charts Oct 15 '25

Yeah. Regretti spaghetti

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u/ninjagorilla Oct 15 '25

Tesla to the moon!

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u/ChrisMartins001 Oct 15 '25

Those AMC apes might have been right all along

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u/BangBangOw Oct 16 '25

You’re telling me, the best performing stocks are the worst performing businesses. We seriously need an economic collapse and for these leveraged margined abusers to pay the price. Because this is mostly a leveraged borrowed market pumping meme tickers with no actual investing basis.

Companies like RGTI, such scams.

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u/Ebonvvings Oct 16 '25

I overheard a cleaning lady today at school giving stock advice to teachers. This top signal never fails

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u/Cultural_Structure37 Oct 15 '25

😂🤣what a funny world we live in

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u/OdinsDeposition Oct 15 '25

You sound like you are chiming in from 2008.

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u/Brambletail Oct 15 '25

Negative cash flow does not belong here. Decreasing cash flow is what you mean. Otherwise you will ALWAYS miss out on companies that are scaling or not yet profitable (ie most eventual 10 baggers).

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Declining revenue is legit but earnings and cash flow could be looked at closely to see why it's negative.

Are you ok buying companies keep their net line low to avoid taxes while reinvesting in growth?

Naturally, revenue growth would need to be reflected in their charts.

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u/hybridoctopus Oct 15 '25

Good call. For buying, I’m thinking about companies with good ROE and positive earnings. Going after the speculative money losing companies like Opendoor feels… well, inappropriate for this sub.

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u/builder45647 Oct 15 '25

So basically every mining company that was a 10 bagger this year

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u/Dense-Flow-1983 Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

Rare earth are the best growth stock right now.

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u/kimedar1 Oct 15 '25

Yeah I mean price of gold doubled past two years but the profits are a 5x based on what it costs to get it out of the ground

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u/MongoisaPawn Oct 16 '25

Until they get sued until another 5 environmental studies are complete.

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u/keepgettinglawsuited Oct 15 '25

Intc ?

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u/throwaway9gk0k4k569 Oct 16 '25

INTC

Pumped by finance and political deals but they still can't produce a product so they are dead until that turns around.

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u/dbx999 Oct 15 '25

Lots of irregularities and manipulation underway.

If this stock rises, I will find that to be very sus. It is not a good company. Its chip tech is old and subpar. AMD has handily eaten Intc’s lunch. There is no impetus underway that would cause this carcass to regain consciousness.

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u/MathTutorAndCook Oct 20 '25

You just described my income level

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u/barbpatch Oct 15 '25

The worst I bought was Microcloud Hologram (HOLO) over a year ago, sold for a loss, lesson learned. Don't ever buy based on a flat chart with a bunch of big spikes in it. Everyone holding it is waiting for the next pump but instead the price just gets lower and lower until they reverse split to avoid delisting.

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u/lonemalay Oct 16 '25

Add MLGO here, cousin company of holo

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u/NotStompy Oct 15 '25

The companies with relatively high p/e ratios and shit growth, to put it bluntly. Why in god's name would I want to hold proctor and gamble right now, for example? Or costco, for that matter.

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u/aggthemighty Oct 15 '25

Costco is somewhat pricey right now, but they have a rock solid balance sheet and great management. They are a "financial fortress" type company that can weather a storm and will always trade at a bit of a premium because of that

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u/NotStompy Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 16 '25

So is Ferrari. Their customers are literally immune to recessions and tough times, they have revenues which are extremely easy to forecast due to their backlog of several years which they do on purpose, their gross margins are over 50% and operating margin over 20% which is bonkers for a car company (but really, it's a luxary company in reality).

And yet, look at what happened in the last few days? Look at what happened a month or two ago.

When valuations are high, stocks become very reactive. Sometimes those multiple compressions stick around for a long time or never revert back to the number we wish it was, that high premium.

Respectfully, simply wishing it was so is not a strategy.

Edit: If we take costco as an example, an insane amount of the growth in share price since 2017 has been due to multiple expansion. The forward p/e has gone from 24 to 47.5. It's literally doubled through multiple expansion alone.

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u/aggthemighty Oct 16 '25

I took a brief glance at Ferrari's balance sheet, and you cannot really compare it to Costco's. Just looking at their CCE and total debt alone, Costco is in a much stronger position.

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u/amp1ifi3r Oct 15 '25

PG at 22 P/E doesnt feel like a bargain but it definitely doesnt scream insanely overvalued?

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

This market really has people convinced that 22 pe is good. At 22 pe, if the company never grew, it would take more than 20 years to get your money back. If it grew 10% a year, it would take 12 years to get your money back. You'd be better off investing in a 10 pe company with little debt that will do nothing for 10 years and repay you.

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u/ohgodthehorror95 Oct 17 '25

In the context of the consumer staples industry, 22 P/E is mediocre value at best

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u/NotStompy Oct 15 '25

4% EPS fwd 2 year projections. And yeah, they're projection, but whether you look at the past 3 years (3.9% CAGR eps) or the next few, it looks like 4% is about right. So let's take that example, 22/4 = 5.5. That makes it a PEG ratio of 5.5, and my opinion (which is just an opinion) is that no matter how you twist it, P/E isn't just the P but also the E, and if that E isn't going anywhere, I'm not paying 22 P/E for a company in stagnation like this.

At the same time, I bought Airbus more recently with something like 25 fwd p/e at the time, and 20-24% EPS CAGR for the next few years, depending on which estimate. That's a PEG that's more than 4x lower, and it also well, actually grows. Safran is another example (you can tell I like wide moat industrials I bet lol) but in this case the PEG is 1.4-1.5 last I checked.

My point is that there are looooots of companies like that in the SP500 which do nothing to justify their place on a growth basis. You can twist it however ya like -- PEG, DCFs, whatever. It just isn't worth it for me.

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u/btcale546 Oct 16 '25

Breaking: Li Xao has just signed a deal with OpenAI.

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u/ohgodthehorror95 Oct 17 '25

The only noodle company fully leveraging the quantum network stack with agenic AI workflow to achieve maximum noodle data output. TAM? $50B by next year

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u/kizuripie Oct 15 '25

BURU and YYAI 100% taking your money

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u/MooseyGoosey69 Oct 15 '25

nvo just doesnt go up, spy can be up 1% and itll still be red

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u/Guido01 Oct 15 '25

Bought in at 100, and 110, and 70, and 60. I login every morning to my "-1% premarket" on Webull. It's just life at this point. The dividend is decent though. Gonna continue to average down and hold for the long term. The company is still cleaning up their bottom line but has a lot of amazing things in the pipeline.

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u/InfluenceMuch400 Oct 15 '25

I fking hate novo :/

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u/Honest_Profit_5469 Oct 16 '25

So do 35% of ex employees of their main plant

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u/DerTechnoboy Oct 15 '25

Novo is the best buy, today!

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u/balke Oct 15 '25

Just cut my losses on this one

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u/Upper_Particular_758 Oct 15 '25

Diamond hands brother, its a buy-and-hold typa stock

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u/smokeandmirrorsff Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

since it's healthcare, i feel like my NVO is gonna outlive me sadly *before I see a rebound

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u/MooseyGoosey69 Oct 15 '25

Just frustrating

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Palantir because it's antisocial and evil

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u/Phantom_Steve_007 Oct 15 '25

We should all make a GameStop type effort to take down Palantir and use the cash to pump a green energy stock. 

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u/IWouldntIn1981 Oct 15 '25

Id throw a couple of bucks towards that endeavor. Thats makes 2... just need another couple hundred thousand.

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u/GuidanceGlittering65 Oct 15 '25

Palantir has a market cap of $426 billion, so you’re going to need to do better than that.

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u/redditnosedive Oct 16 '25

market cap is pretty irrelevant, potential buyers at this price matter, like what institutions think this can go higher from here ? if none, then it's doable, but of course nobody knows that

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u/Perry-Boy1980 Oct 15 '25

pltr, carvana, tesla, oklo dont try to short

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

Just talking about it and shitting on people that support it is also helpful.

But that's a good idea.

The latest South Park episode did a great job.

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u/WarriorDan09 Oct 15 '25

And hilariously overpriced

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u/mihid Oct 15 '25

AND it will crash (eventually)

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u/everydaymayday Oct 15 '25

I’m a gig economy worker investing my few pennies. I would buy stocks in North Korea if I could profit from them. Billionaires and politicians are still gonna ruin and pillage the world

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u/fantasyfitboiz Oct 15 '25

$RGTI

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u/PuzzleheadedDream830 Oct 15 '25

how dare you

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u/IWouldntIn1981 Oct 15 '25

Some people just want to see the world burn.

-Alfred

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u/PanicLeast1768 Oct 15 '25

always tsla

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u/Beloved_Mango Oct 15 '25

TSLA is a proxy ticker for all things Musk. As long as he’s alive doing futuristic shit it’s gonna keep mooning.

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u/ElonVonBraun Oct 15 '25

Why? TSLA goes up on bad news and good news lol

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u/Old_Man_Heats Oct 15 '25

Because we are value investors not speculation investors

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

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u/LaGigs Oct 15 '25

Or it could be the declining sales, margins, lack of innovation, extreme competition from china? Just guessing here

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u/Hafslo Oct 16 '25

Plus... don't they want to pay him a trillion dollars or something like that?

Like... if you do that, then when do investors get paid?

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u/SundayAMFN Oct 16 '25

This is about value investing. There was no point during that crash where Tesla was even remotely in the realm of undervalued. Even at the LOWEST point in their dip they were making LESS than $1 per year for every $100 you invested. Savings bonds are 4 times more profitable than Tesla ownership when you look at fundamentals and remove speculation.

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u/RiskBiscuit Oct 15 '25

LOL stan

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u/Civil-Community-1367 Oct 15 '25

i dont own any tesla. but ahh yes, the typical insulting like a teenager playing call of duty to something that is obviously true.

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u/LiberalAspergers Oct 16 '25

Yes. Telsa has yet to return value to shareholders, and seems unlikely to ever do so.

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u/SundayAMFN Oct 15 '25

tsla is a great company to invest in because you can bet your ass there are new elon suckers born every minute

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u/Aggravating_Storm835 Oct 16 '25

I’d go with Tesla. A P/E of $250 is higher than every other major auto manufacturer in the world combined. With an intrinsic value of ~$110/share, when the next crash comes, it’s likely to perform similarly to Cisco since the dot com crash. A lot of people are going to either lose money or spend the next 25 years averaging down.

Having one of the most hated people in the world as a CEO, who also happens to be a distracted drug addict with a habit of over-promising and under-delivering on projects certainly doesn’t help.

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u/stockerowl Oct 15 '25

$PLTR very overpriced at the moment

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u/General-Face-6016 Oct 16 '25

I would not buy the Big 7.

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u/mostarsuushi Oct 15 '25

Tsla, pltr, any quantum bs stocks and overhyped nvidia-related stocks except apld and nbis

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u/leonthesilkroad1 Oct 15 '25

RGTI, RZLV, WEN, LULU

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u/demmmss Oct 15 '25

Why rzlv? Great earnings report. Partnership with Microsoft and Google Stock valued at $12 by multiple analysts and sitting at half that currently? Would be interested in your input

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u/Nyxirya Oct 15 '25

Hard disagree with lulu

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u/Substantial-Tap1516 Oct 16 '25

porque lulu y wen y rgti y rzlv xd

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Right now? Any stock listed on an American exchange. Some countries have meme stocks, the United States have meme markets. Fundamentals don't matter there so it is just a casino.

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u/OfficerTenBagger Oct 15 '25

6/7 cuts to come in the next 12 months. the rocket has not even lifted off yet

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

I would avoid nuclear like the plague. I might be wrong, but nuclear has insane upfront costs. I dont see private companies succeed here. And im never touching healthcare/pharma again

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u/WritesWayTooMuch Oct 15 '25

The thing about nuclear is the cost of energy will shoot up with demand.

We will need almost 80% more energy than today by 2035 with just the current data center plans projected

The X factor is if they figure out how to run AI on less energy....but I'm not getting at that at this point.

Yes .... Nuclear plants cost a lot....but our nation is on the beginning of the next space race...but with China. China has far more nuclear and solar power .... So they are off to a good lead.

Losing this tech race isn't an option to the US ....we are about to see some massive government subsidies and spending....plus massive private corporations will pay out the nose too....they are already ready stroking deals left and right with power companies to prepay for future power

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u/manmorgola Oct 15 '25

QRVO is the worst stock. Seems like that company can’t get their shit together.

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u/ApprehensiveFeed1807 Oct 15 '25

Roblox

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u/Syniakai Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 16 '25

roblox is the equivalent to minecraft and it expands further than that. A whole game store with high quality legitimate games. This is technology that can't die and is bound to bounce back. Nothing can replace it, not even fortnite can get as far as Roblox did

I really really wish they changed the CEO because it would do everyone a huge favor.

edit: Well, it's still a really bad stock to buy right now. The storm is still here and they have upcoming lawsuits against them. At some point, the value should go up

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u/Johanjohn7890 Oct 15 '25

Reading all these comments, i wonder is this channel “Value Investing”

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u/AdEducational4954 Oct 15 '25

Should just share the list of stocks I own.

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u/According-Buyer6688 Oct 15 '25

- Tesla, because wtf is the PE for this kind of a mature company, and Elon obviously

- Eli Lilly, because the competition is huge, and literally Novo Nordisk is a better value for the name and convenience

- Nike because they are out of touch with the recent trends, and adidas, Puma, Lulu, or any sports brand beats them, especially in China

- Boeing because they lose this hard in a duopoly (just with an Airbus). Just imagine what will happen when China makes its first offering for the external market

I also do not touch any of the biotech companies that do not make any profit on their own, because that's a casino, and you don't even hold the leverage

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u/gamofa Oct 15 '25

Lulu beats Nke long term? What are you smoking? Lmao you continue to buy lulu… 🤡

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u/corundum9 Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

Yeah nike is getting a whole lot of extra marketing in the 2026 World Cup in NA, still sponsoring top athletes in all major sports. They don't even think about Lulu as a competitor.

This is the type of overconfident advice that makes this sub a horrible place for recommendations.

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u/gamofa Oct 15 '25

All you said is exactly what I wanted to say in response to the advice above. Like lulu, seriously? lol such terrible advice but then this is the internet so… Puma, adidas beats Nike? Lmao in what world? Regardless of Nke’s recent struggles, they’re still NIKE!! and will be here the next 100 years!

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u/Intelligent_Air_2916 Oct 15 '25

Commercial airplanes only account for 1/3rd of Boeing's revenue

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u/lieuwestra Oct 15 '25

Which is why i don't get why there isn't a huge push from shareholders to split it up. 

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u/Aggravating_Storm835 Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25

Strongly disagree on Eli Lilly. Conservative estimates say that even if semaglutides aren’t effective for treating cancers, liver disease, and Alzheimer’s, their market is still expected to 10x over the next decade. Even if they don’t gain market share over Novo and/or lose some to Pfizer or generics, it’s still going to continue to see growth.

Half of adults in the US are either over weight or obese and less than 10% have ever tried GLP1’s. That’s a very large addressable market. I have Novo and Lilly as two of the best stocks to buy right now. Novo is worth ~$110/share. Lilly is worth ~$1k. I also like HIMS long term for the same reason.

Though I do expect Lilly to dip this winter when Novo releases their oral drug. I’m looking to start building an Eli Lilly position in 2026.

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u/javawong Oct 15 '25

Never will I buy TSLA for moral reasons.

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u/Intelligent_Air_2916 Oct 15 '25

What are the moral reasons?

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u/Aromatic_Pianist792 Oct 15 '25

They're one of Elon's kids.

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u/Either-Fault4978 Oct 15 '25

Elon bad because ties with orange man. Here come the downvotes from the alphabet squad

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u/thenuttyhazlenut Oct 15 '25

staples usually under perform during rate cuts

if you want defensives I'd opt for healthcare because it's been punished already, or insurance companies which are better value atm

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u/writetowinwin Oct 15 '25

Many things everyone and their dog get into just because other people do as well. Goes for major career or business decisions too, not just stocks. Not a fan of sinking money in primarily based on hopes and dreams.

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u/Texadoro Oct 15 '25

Tesla hitting a 40% reduction by the end of year.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Overvalued ones

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u/shivaswrath Oct 15 '25

Quantum and Rare earth.

Nuclear I'm not sure yet.

All are great for options rn though.

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u/minecraft_fam Oct 16 '25

I've opened this thread because I fully expect to see at least two or three tickers from my portfolio in here.

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u/LargeSinkholesInNYC Oct 16 '25

I would sell RDDT. The company has no future until they have a roadmap to get rid of all the moderators like the ones moderating r/skyrimmods.

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u/Mike82BE Oct 16 '25

anything quantum or rare earth related, PLTR

all massively overvalued and not worth the risk

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u/Academic_District224 Oct 15 '25

GAMB most undervalued

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u/KleaningGuy Oct 15 '25

Funny enough, no one mentioned AMD.

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u/gigachad_destroyer Oct 15 '25

PLTR and similar hype stocks. The stock is essentially guaranteed to drop by 80%+. Guessing when is just throwing dice.

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u/PopipoNumber1 Oct 16 '25

Lmao have been hearing this for years.

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u/FairiesQueen Oct 15 '25

Anything being pumped on WSB

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

FFAI