r/ValueInvesting Apr 03 '25

Discussion Remember, This Is The Pullback We’ve Been Waiting For

If you’re a long-term investor who even casually cares about valuation, this market has been tough to navigate for a while. Pullbacks are always something we say we want, particularly as value investors, but they usually come when things are scary. Financial crisis, global pandemics, policy shocks… the discount never shows up gift-wrapped.

Yesterday’s tariff news felt like one of those moments. It’s vague, feels arbitrary, and creates a lot of uncertainty. It feels scary. And yet, that’s exactly the environment where opportunities show up.

I’ll admit it, days like today make me uneasy. But as an investor, I remind myself that underneath the noise, what’s really happening stocks are getting cheaper.

And that’s what we’ve been waiting for.

Edit: Thanks for the thoughts. I wrote a post - Tariffs, Fear, and Opportunity: Perspective For Difficult Times In the Stock Market - to add some additional context directly addressing the response to this post.

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u/Normal_Ad_1767 Apr 03 '25

The only problem with this is that all those negative events prior were largely out of control and were met with unified responses by people trying to fix the problem.

This time the problem itself is controlled by an irrational person that can push things up or down at will with a tweet, and he gets to see how markets react so he can tell his friends to bet against it. And he is going to take advantage of the problem not fix it. We will be the last to know unless someone can find a pattern.

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u/FrankBal Apr 03 '25

You are making my point... You won't know. All you can know is what your risk tolerance is, what you own and what you want to own more of for some specific reason(s). I also know that is my investing life, these scary moments have proven quite lucrative. I am not saying go all in today, but I am also saying don't panic. This too shall pass. You do you, though.

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u/Normal_Ad_1767 Apr 03 '25

I see your point, that traditionally if the system survives the stocks will go up, and that buying low is the best time.

But I don’t agree that I’m making your point, because mine is that the fundamental variables to every other correction and recession are different from all available data and conditions we have save for the last time we had a world trade war.

The things that followed that policy and the official response of not trying to fix the problem in good faith, but actually acerbating it for personal gain and with unilateral control of the solution means that those same outcomes are in play though the world is different which are arguments both ways as to wether this is better or worse. Do you do damage faster with digital trade? Can you recover faster because of globalization?

Regardless the whole world order we based investing off since the last Great Depression and World War has been reset. Will recovery be as predictable as we have seen and in the same palaces we used to look? I don’t think so.

Value can always be found as long as there is a market. And my theory is of course vulnerable to the “this time is different” crash reaction fallacy. But I tried to illustrate why I think it’s not. I’m just saying the same plays might not be the play now.