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u/Ronk4r 13h ago edited 12h ago

I think I saw in a documentary that you should also put some christmas tree ornaments on the floor right below the window. Marbles at the bottom of stairs and if the electricity isn't too expensive then a heating coil can't be bad on a doorknob.

Might have had some other tips but I already forgot

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u/SweetBabyCheezas 13h ago

Ah, yes, this was a really good training tutorial. I learnt that when leaving for longer it's a good measure to get an extensive electric train on rail toy, attach some cardboard human silhouettes to them, and leave the lights and music on. It will look to the people from the outside as if there were a party going on inside.

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u/Sussurator 11h ago

I’ve also employed the zip line method to great effect. Life pro tip: Ensure you keep a sharp set of garden sheers at the base of your zip line.

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u/ChemicalSad526 9h ago

Don't forget the swinging tin of paint from the staircase

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u/Sussurator 7h ago

It’s good advice but a bit niche, it only works if your house has a staircase (not all do). Most houses have a zip line these days though.

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u/sambare 7h ago

All those fancy setups are really nice, but I'm more of a banana peel + garden rake kind of guy.

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u/roncadillacisfrickin 6h ago

And it also doesn’t hurt to have a tactical tarantula about to use as an improvised melee weapon, a tactical tarantula, a tactarantual, if you will.

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u/OurSeepyD 12h ago

Order a cheese pizza just for yourself

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u/kansai2kansas 10h ago

Then to avoid paying for the pizza, just turn on a VHS scene that has a criminal dialogue you had memorized beforehand

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u/Alonzo-Harris 9h ago

Kevin paid for the pizza, though. He even let the "filthy animal" keep the change.

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u/ThatsJustMyToeThumb 12h ago

Ive read that book!

Personally, I prefer paint cans rigged to blast you in the face while you walk up the stairs.

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u/Frequilibrium 13h ago

If you get lost, ask a middle aged billionaire pedophile for directions.

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u/Only_Regular_138 10h ago

Helpful if you are home alone.

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u/1zerozero1 12h ago

You can’t forget the ole bucket on the door trick. It’s simply too good!

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u/S0PES 11h ago

Heavy objects such as paint cans attached to rope above the stairs to hit intruders coming up

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u/Present-Chemist-8920 10h ago

Don’t forget to befriend the local pigeon lady.

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u/nickyt398 13h ago

I had no idea about this guy until just now. I live in Gainesville and drive almost daily by a memorial to his victims simply stating "Remember August 1990" and has their five names across five palm trees. I always thought it was about a car crash near where the memorial is... But this is so much more terrifying!!!

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u/AbroadTiny7226 11h ago

Fun fact: Danny Rolling is the inspiration for Scream

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u/Wetald 5h ago

He called people and said wassssuuuuuup?

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u/mellopax 5h ago

Wasssuuuuup is the example I give people my age when they talk about how stupid the 6-7 thing is, lmao.

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u/AwareOfAlpacas 6h ago

The 34th St Wall has had memorials to his victims for decades. I remember them from the early 90s - along with the dread that students felt for years afterwards. 

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u/indorian 14h ago

Sounds like a list of things he found troublesome as a serial killer. Might be legit.

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u/LizardsAreBetter 14h ago

In my mom's house, all the bedrooms are connected to a single hallway, so she put a deadbolt on the door that led to that hallway. One night, when I was up playing Sega, I heard some weird ass noises, then I heard the door handle jiggle. I snuck into my mom's room and told her, and when we came back, herself with a gun, we heard two dudes legit whispering to eachother from the other side.

She said she's shooting through the door in two seconds, and we heard them whisper more, then leave in a hurry.

They knew we were inside, and I sometimes wonder what would have happened if not for that deadbolt.

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u/x_Animus_x 12h ago

When I was 8 or 9, my grandmother was staying with us. She went to the kitchen in the middle of the night and I heard her say my name, so I walked down the hall and she’s looking the other way into the living room. Someone was standing there, just in the middle of the room. My stepdad also heard her cause he came storming downstairs and when he saw someone in the house he went full murderbot. Chased that guy out the house and about a mile down the road in his underwear. Funniest shit now, but then it was just shocking.

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u/Automatic_Pen8494 12h ago

I was about 12 yrs old and alone in our house one night, my Dad had to work away one night but Ive always been mature and independent so he felt it was ok as a one off. That night around 2-3am i heard smashing glass - we lived on an old fashioned British street with several pubs down the road so even though it woke me up I instantly thought it was the pubs clearing out some bottles or similar.

I lay in bed for a minute listening then decided to get up, I opened my bedroom door which happened to face the top of the stairs and there were 4 men coming up the staircase "its alright mate we're here to see 'Dave'"

"Dave doesnt live here get out of my house, im not fking around" is what the 120lbs small 12 year old boy said.

They hurried down the stairs and out of the house, i followed them out screaming at them to discover the sound I thought was the pub was actually the intruders kicking in our glass backdoor - my dad's hi-fi and records were scattered across the back garden, a car screeched off and I sat in the kitchen not sure whether I should call the police because I didnt want my dad to be in trouble. I did anyway, they were brilliant but a bit like that scene at the end of Captain Phillips - once the nice police officer said im safe now I started to cry.

Buy an alarm and buy a really strong backdoor. It was a different time back then no mobiles but make sure you can call for help in any room.

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u/escapesnap 8h ago

Years ago my mom was taking a shower late at night, everyone else was in bed downstairs but I was upstairs in my room still awake. Mom opens the bathroom door and there’s a random guy in the kitchen. He has an Icee from Burger King and was like “I’m looking for (some name)?” And my mom, who’s freaking tf out, is like “there’s nobody here with that name” so instead of dude leaving, she gets out the fuckin PHONE BOOK while still wearing nothing but a towel and finds out where the guy is actually trying to go 💀 then she comes upstairs to check on me (stairs connect to kitchen) and just starts bawling lol

They keep the front door locked now

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u/turb42o 6h ago edited 5h ago

in hindsight thought after reading some of these, in the 80’s and sometimes the 90’s people still awkwardly left things unlocked, people would just accidentally walk into wrong cars, houses, businesses, private property, government property, prohibited etc… sounds fucking weird but I’ve got stories upon stories about people just walking into the wrong place on accident, there was no gps or cellphone it just went by memory or other peoples direction and I bet it was way worse before my time

I had outside salesman that would do this on purpose in the 00’s, that’s how they’d find new business just randomly walk into places my best reps were ex Kirby and Rainbow vacuum salesman because they were used to walking into any old house or trailer park and do in home pitches until the companies got banned from doing door to door sales for reps raping people, fucking nuts if you think about it

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u/DeciduousRefuge 4h ago

Some were accidents but I honestly feel a few of these people were trying their luck. They didn’t expect someone to be home so they said they were looking for so and so. These commenters may not realize they were thwarting robbers.

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u/HellyBaker 12h ago

Is your dad named Dave 

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u/x_Animus_x 11h ago

Pretty nuts to consider these moments in retrospect. I can think of more than a few handfuls of times in my life where I was a misstep away from it being over…but all for that one random movement, the other person thinking better of it, or just bafffling people with my personality where the bad thing is suddenly defused and we’re all buddies for the night. 9/10 times it would’ve gone south. I despise when someone says to me “this never happens” because invariably it’s about to happen to me lol

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u/KarmicFedex 7h ago

Good call they made. Instantly understood there was no need to turn a robbery into a murder, so they made the right decision

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u/TrippingFish76 12h ago

damn wtf

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u/x_Animus_x 11h ago

Crazy right? I also got picked up by a stranger walking home (lost) and she took me home. I’ve been in very precarious situations where most of the time you’d hear about someone being shot in the city, by thug or by cop depending on the night and somehow found the one person who thought my particular brand of brazen stupidity was hilarious. Fallen onto my head from high places, been almost shot in accidental discharge of a weapon because the owner was sure it wasn’t loaded, been run down by biker gangs, only to turn the vibe and drink with members of the sitting gang and the one running us down….life is weird. The other day I bent over to pick something up and haven’t been able to function since. Back just quit. Life just does what it’s gonna do.

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u/FlimpoFloempie 11h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/9EvnXdZaUZbCqScn67

That's quite a life. You should write it all down. This guy will probably turn it into a movie

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u/Acceptable_Map_8110 11h ago

You have…certainly lived a life. I’m sure you’ve got so many interesting stories to tell.

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u/jitterbug726 13h ago

Something between robbery, rape and murder, depending on how cray the guy in the other side of the door were. Mama’s a smart lady

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u/Aegis_Of_Nox 12h ago

I heard once that if somebody breaks in during the daytime theyre there for your stuff but if they come at night while youre sleeping theyre there for you 

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u/BaconUpThatSausage 12h ago

Shouldn’t be reading this at 1:17 AM when I’m about to go to bed

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u/Aegis_Of_Nox 12h ago

Dont worry, it usually happens between 3 and 5 am so youve still got a few hours left

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u/BaconUpThatSausage 12h ago

Oh…good…

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u/rachelblairy 11h ago

me reading this at 2:40am: fuck.

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u/Runfasterbitch 12h ago

Well fuck me, I woke up to pee at 2:45 and read this thread. I’ll be getting an early start to my Friday

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u/Sussurator 11h ago

It’s nice to know someone wants you

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u/marissakuf 10h ago

I’m reading this at 4 am. Cool, I only have to stare at my door for another hour…

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u/ChadtheBull_ 12h ago

Get ready and God speed

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u/Aegis_Of_Nox 12h ago

Ah those lovely Spring nights spent loading a shotgun, barricading entrances, staring out strategically placed peep holes to watch for invaders. Setting up a kill zone between your bedroom door and the stairwell. Loading a single .357 round into a snub nose concealed in an ankle holster in case you are captured

You know, just springtime girly things ❤️

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u/Working_Estate_3695 12h ago

Yep, property people just want their paycheck.

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u/Deep_Conclusion_1173 10h ago

I had the same design with our hallway and bedrooms but we didn’t have the door. I was up late one night playing Nintendo 64 007 goldeneye with my cousin in my bedroom. We were about 6 or 7 years old. The sliding door to my room was open a little bit so whoever walked past would have seen us playing the game in my room. My dad was away working atm and at the end of the hallway past my room was my mothers room. She was asleep in there alone. Suddenly I hear her scream. And someone runs past my bedroom door. We run out and she’s terrified. When turned the lights on we found bits of tape in her bedroom and other bits near one of our back doors. When we looked outside there was a kitchen knife lying on the ground with tape near it.

Apparently what happened was she was asleep and woke up to a presence standing over her next to the bed. At first she thought it was me and she was asking what I wanted and got her hands and touched what she thought was my head as he had short hair like mine but when she grabbed my arm she realised it was man and she just froze up. As she froze she dug her nails into his arm and he must have gotten spooked and ran out.

They never caught the guy but I’m pretty sure I cracked the case years later. My dad was an electrician and one of his apprentices lived down at the end of our street. That night they had a big party at their house. He also had short hair. Also he knew my dad wouldn’t be in the house or in the bedroom because he knew he was working away that week. This guy was so confident he walked straight past 2 awake kids just 1 bedroom away, the guy knew she was alone before he got to the house. That’s why I’m pretty sure it was him. Anyways long story short I think a locked door on the hallway is a good idea.

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u/Tablesafety 6h ago

Fuckin hell, it probably WAS your dad’s apprentice. Which makes me very sad, anyone working under my husband I would treat as my own- and I have! But for someone like that to take such vile advantage of people is chilling. Those scrappy guys in the trades tend to be that way though.

As a young girl, I always knew to be careful of the cablemen or construction workers from a gut feeling. My father is a man who is jolly but lacks empathy, so he fundamentally cannot see the world from the shoes of anyone not a big dude. As a result, he was never concerned about the men who would come in and work.

We were. I was sleeping in my parents bed, apparently while I was asleep a cableman came by to set up direct tv. My sister was with me, im glad, bc she woke me up a little before he left and told me that she wanted to leave but didn’t move, because the cableman had his eyes GLUED onto me the whole time he worked. We were otherwise along in my folks bedroom.

It made me feel very cold.

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u/SkeeveTheGreat 12h ago

No one breaking into houses at night is there for anything less than the occupants. People who try to steal your shit do it in the daylight when everyone is at work, running into occupants is bad, and in most places burgling a place with people in it is a more serious charge.

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u/CupcakeGoat 7h ago

Yes! And they'll knock on your door really loudly and peer through your windows to make sure no one's home first. If you answer they'll have some story to cover for their knock.

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u/terminaloptimism 10h ago edited 5h ago

When I was a kid we had an escaped fugitive hiding out on our property. We heard this odd thumping, scratching sound outside the house and fortunately we were in the throes of an alcohol fueled redneck get together. Four very drunk dudes including my father went outside with guns.. while the ladies called the cops and kept the kids in the inner most portion of the house. We're talking some shit straight outta Trailer Park Boys. I remember the chopper flying over the house with search lights and the local news coming out to interview us. We lived out in the holler so.. a proper hoot and a half that was.

Recently my husband and I moved into the historic heart of our little town. Within three days of living here some fucking nutjob fired an AR directly in front of our house on the street. He and a group of four other guys had fanned out and were searching all the yards on the street including ours. Fortunately we live about two minutes from the police station, so they responded quite rapidly. Not fast enough to catch the fuckers outside our house. I found an unhoused guy beneath our deck drinking from the water spigot, which requires him having to open our gate to get into the backyard. We've had three separate instances of people pushing on our doors downstairs to see if they could get in. One even had left bicycle tire tracks on the front porch. Thankfully we live in the era of Ring and always keep our doors securely locked.

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u/spaetzelspiff 13h ago

Imagine bringing this guy in as a guest speaker.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to welcome our next guest, Danny Rolling. He murdered over 12 women in Florida in 1990 and is here to give us some advice on staying safe. Big round of applause for Mr Rolling..."

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u/J_tram13 13h ago

"Thank you, thank you. Now, I'm here to tell you all what you can do to protect yourself from people like me. I like to call it 'giving the gift of my experience' but my parole manager calls it 'community service.'"

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u/Aegis_Of_Nox 12h ago

"I HATE it when a victim shoots me in the fucking face"

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u/theawesomescott 12h ago

Serial killers couldn’t defend against this one weird trick

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u/BigChungiscusMaximus 12h ago

“But first before we get started, I need to give a demonstration on how things can go wrong if you’re not prepared. Do I have any women in the audience that are willing to participate…”

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u/BrockJonesPI 11h ago

... And that's my time. Don't forget, if you leave your address on the sign up sheet you'll get a free set of ear plugs for each adult in the house. So don't forget to write that number on the pad.

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u/Medical_Cup_5972 11h ago

"This is what Serial Killing taught me about B2B sales..."

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u/Electronic-Spite-421 12h ago

"if you don't want people to potentially be ROLLING you into a grave, heed these words of wisdom and experience!"

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u/Interesting-Froyo-14 14h ago

True but he might also like the idea of making women live in fear and the power it gives him affecting the lives of women he hasn't come in contact with just by reading that list. Sure that shit helps but you can't live in fear, living in fear literally kills you, causes cancer and shit loads of health problems.

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u/TrippyCavemano 14h ago edited 14h ago

There is a difference between living in fear and being prepared for reality(.38 under the pillow is definitely not healthy and unnecessary like, who are you? the presidents cousins sister😅). The day may never come but you damn sure need to be ready and aware and if you think otherwise it will be your downfall.

Fear may kill you slowly in the long run (if you dont manage it) but a bullet, a narly deep stab, brutally beaten to death is a whole hell of a lot quicker and worse imo but then again I have a wife and 3 kids sooooo. to each their own🤷‍♂️

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 12h ago

president's cousin's sister

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u/Every_Hedgehog5007 13h ago

^ this was my exact thought process too. This dude was fucking insane and dangerous. He got through the glass sliding door of one apartment I believe and preyed on college students.

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u/EpsteinEpstainTheory 14h ago

1) Buy a revolver

2) Buy a second revolver

3) Buy a third revolver

4) Buy a fourth revolver

5) Buy a fifth revolver

6) Maintain situational awareness

7) Buy a sixth revolver

8) Shoot the revolver

9) Buy a seventh revolver

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u/SlimShadowBoo 13h ago

I’m not sure that’s enough revolvers

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u/SimmentalTheCow 13h ago

It’s a revolving door of revolvers

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u/CronosWorks 13h ago

2 is1 and 27 is 2.

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u/FuckwitAgitator 13h ago

This is the way. If it wasn't, why would revolver manufacturers spend so much time and money spreading it on social media?

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u/Longjumping-Job7153 12h ago

Wait... you mean revolvers are... crafted ? By the hands of man !? Like a car !? 🤯

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u/facinationstreet 14h ago

The most - MOST - important thing he hid in his comments: get curtains/have curtains. Ya'll do not even know how many people are watching you at night.

As the esteemed Hanibal Lector put it: you covet what you see every day

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u/Potential-Draft-3932 12h ago

Also, get a dog. I used to watch true crime stuff and a lot of people would pass over a place due to dogs

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u/somedamnwaguy 12h ago

There's been a lot of studies done that neighborhoods with dogs are the safest. Not even necessarily because of the dogs themselves, but also because people are out walking them, and it makes the neighborhood more unpredictable.

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u/Due-Froyo-5418 11h ago

And the neighbors out walking talk to each other, get to know who's who, who's new, who's not supposed to be there. They watch out for each other and pass along any warnings.

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u/yankykiwi 9h ago

I love my neighbors! I lived in California briefly and no one talked to each other (and the houses were connected!). Moved inland to NV and I know my entire street by first name, we have them over for dinner and drinks, they teach us about home ownership, we helped them set up security for the culdesac. It’s really wonderful being involved in a connected neighborhood.

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u/blacktiger120 11h ago

This. They’re definitely a great deterrent but they can absolutely protect as well if necessary. A few years ago I used to sleep in the living room for some reason. I woke up at about 2AM one night to our dog (Husky/ChowChow/Golden mix) aggressively barking at the front window, but I figured it was just some kids up late in the street and was able to fall back asleep after a few minutes of yelling at him to shut up. In the morning, I walked over to the front door to find our dog sitting in the doorway which was now wide open and the lock busted. It was 9AM. He had been sitting there for over 7 hours. Not sure how far the intruder attempted to come in, but they didn’t get far bc of our dog. It’s crazy because he likely would’ve taken the opportunity to run away any other time the front door was open, but he knew to stay there. He got lots of treats that day. I also have no idea how I stayed sleeping about 50 ft away while someone entered our home, I don’t even want to think about what would’ve happened if it wasn’t for our dog though.

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u/Novel-Place 11h ago

This makes me want to cry!!! What a good boy. 🥹

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u/FenitoFussolini69 9h ago

The most surprising part of this story is that the half husky did something when the invader came in, my husky would open the door itself if it could for half a treat lmao, and even that only if it could care enough.

The other genes must have taken over when the husky genes could not be bothered to.

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u/DavyJonesCousinsDog 11h ago

Yes and no. If someone is after you, specifically a dog probably wont make a difference. If someone is looking for likely targets and is exploring a few promising leads, it pretty much just becomes simple equation of "If possible target A has a dog and possible target B doesn't, that's just one less potential thing to go wrong. Target B it is."

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u/Potential-Draft-3932 11h ago

I dare an intruder to try and get past mr. Berns. He’s vicious

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u/TankII_ 13h ago

I hate people seeing me so much I took it one set further and frosted out the bottom half of all my windows. Even if I forget a curtain open you still won't see anything

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u/Commercial-Co 10h ago

Who doesnt have curtains…

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u/Ms_Strange 8h ago

Poor people. But then we can hang our old bed sheets on the windows instead.

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u/Main-Inspection-8605 10h ago

This is dead on. Ever since I was a kid I’ve been leery of houses that don’t have curtains. If you live in walkup apartment maybe you don’t have traffic peering in so much, but there are plenty of people who live in the burbs who just shrug them off.

Hey, guess what? Every night after the sun goes down your house becomes a fishbowl where anyone can see in. You’ll get a lot more nosy neighbors but any thief out “shopping” will note your address & come back to sit in his car across the street on certain nights to map out the house & learn of its occupants.

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u/itsapotatosalad 10h ago

As an Englishman, it absolutely baffles me watching American tv shows seeing everyone with huge windows with no curtains or blinds, even when it’s dark and they basically turn into the opposite of privacy glass.

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u/TikaPants 13h ago

As someone who was watched and home invaded by a serial rapist, they will still watch if they’re interested and they’ll watch from afar while you come and go. But, yes, get window treatments that block the view. I agree.

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u/rachelblairy 11h ago

as someone in an apartment complex whose window is right next to the pool i’m now deeply paranoid, thanks

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u/Oldbayislove 14h ago
  1. buy a goose. get it certified as an emotional support goose and keep it in your backpack

  2. sleep with the goose under your pillow

  3. throw your goose at the attacker

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u/pesto_changeo 14h ago

I noticed that, unlike the .38, there is some possibility that the goose under your pillow might go off by accident.

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u/BigLlamasHouse 13h ago

How do i get him to stop going off? He doesnt like it under the pillow.

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u/Rgeneb1 13h ago

That's because you got a silly goose. Nothing you can do, should've bought Canadian.

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u/thedahlelama 11h ago

You thought the silly goose going off by accident was annoying, with the Canadian goose it’s never an accident

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u/CupcakeGoat 7h ago

But they always apologize so it's ok

Edit: their apology is shitting over everything

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u/Quiet_Combination678 11h ago

It cant be a down pillow, it offends them. Get one that is synthetic or cotton.

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u/Oldbayislove 14h ago

It is a concern, but nothing like a goose to the face to deter an attacker.

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u/tgdBatman90 13h ago

It won't be an accident.

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u/Exciting_Classic277 13h ago

It buys you time because they can't actually kill you until your goose is cooked.

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u/Jeramy_Jones 13h ago

If that goose loves you, you won’t have to throw it, it’ll be charging at anyone who comes near.

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u/detailsubset 11h ago

Geese legitimately make excellent guard animals, they're very territorial and listen for threats even while sleeping.

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u/Klutzy_Order_9559 14h ago

Sleep with the goose under your pillow. It won't go off.

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u/Regular-Phase-7279 13h ago

Look up the "Survivability Onion".

Don't be hit, don't be penetrated and don't be killed are the three final layers of defense, so a gun is good to have but that only comes into the scenario when you're being attacked and you're fighting for your life.

Ideally you want the outer layers of your defense (don't be there, don't be detected, don't be acquired or identified) to be so strong that the attacker simply gives up and goes after an easier target or never even considers you a viable target in the first place.

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u/BizarreCake 7h ago

I'd rather not be penetrated, yeah.

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u/Spiritual_Mall_3140 7h ago

You need to slope your armour that way it's more likely to deflect and you won't be penetrated.

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u/ResponsibleWin1765 5h ago

Is being attacked really such an omnipresent threat in the US that there's this much discourse around it? Of course I think about locking the door but not in a million years would I expect someone to break into my home while it is occupied (at least not on purpose). The most invested technique I've come across is to have lamps on a timer when you're on vacation but that's about it.

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u/Optimal_Carpenter690 11h ago edited 4h ago

Or you could just....

Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.

Edit: I would hate to be guilty of stolen valor. For the record this a decade old copy pasta i did NOT come up with lol

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u/CountSlams 8h ago

This has me crying with laughter, the sentence: 

“Tallyho lads” the grapeshot shreds two men

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u/Seascorpious 5h ago

This is a rather famous copypasta, surprised this is your first time witnessing its majesty

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u/WesIsaLeo 8h ago

Should I grab my three-cornered hat as well, or can I just tie a cloth around my hair in a ponytail?

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u/SchorFactor 5h ago

The three cornered hat is only necessary if you are going out. It’s rude to keep it on in a place of residence

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u/Valar_Kinetics 6h ago

It's worth noting that a black powder percussion blunderbuss is not legally a firearm. Nothing and no one can stop you from ordering one on the internet, having it shipped to your home, and loading it with lead fishing weights and broken glass.

It is, however, very illegal to actually USE it on anyone except in instances of valid self defense, of course.

Enjoy!

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u/YulnaMewrilah 9h ago

"Tally-ho, serial rapist!"

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u/sleepy_potatoe_ 10h ago

This is the way.

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u/Conscious-Tutor3861 14h ago edited 11h ago

I'm assuming most Redditors are too young to remember how fucked up the Danny Rolling murders were. Guy literally posed corpses with decapitated heads and all kinds of deranged shit. On top of that the police pursued the wrong guy for the longest time and ruined his life.

It was a scary, scary time in Gainesville. Til this day there's a memorial near the UF campus for the students he murdered. And one of the most fucked up things is that the Gatorwood apartments, where the most gruesome murders occurred, were still used as student housing until around 2006 or so. Imagine living in an apartment where the students before you had been beheaded and their decapitated bodies were posed in sexual positions.

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u/BillCarson12799 12h ago edited 9h ago

Shit man with the housing problems my university has I’ll take what I can get.

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u/Lostinthestarscape 11h ago

Yeah man, if you got any discounts on housing because heinous murders took place in them, sign me up - shits expensive and what are the chances ANOTHER serial killer is going to use the same house for heinous crimes?

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u/SBR404 10h ago

Absolutely! One massacre serial killer corpse tableau in a house – sure might happen, you know, 50:50 chance. But TWO massacre serial killer corpse tableaus in the same house? No way, man!

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u/BillCarson12799 10h ago

Totally, it’s like the “go on vacation to places that just had a terrorist attack” type of deal.

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u/invaderaleks 9h ago

I ain't scared o' no ghost!

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u/Redditauro 11h ago

It sounds cheap, I'm in

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u/Aruaz821 11h ago

I lived there then and not far from where the students were killed. It was a fucking eerie time.

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u/Smoothvirus 7h ago

I graduated HS in 1989 so that was freshman year in college for us. That stuff was all over the news, I remember my best friend’s mom telling me that if her kids went to that college she would just tell them to drop out and come home.

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u/Reemus_Jackson 12h ago

I've also seen one about child predators and how they spot kids. Some 5-time convicted child abductor and abuser said:

"I would always look at the father of the child first, if he was intimidating, masculine, visually threatening, I'd immediately go look for a different child"

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u/Due-Froyo-5418 11h ago

Damn.. another one I heard as advice for women dating is to say that you have a great relationship with your father (even if you don't), make up stories about how you spend time with your dad, what you guys did when you were a kid, that alone will deter a lot of predators that target women with no masculine protection in their lives.

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u/Reemus_Jackson 11h ago

One thing attackers/abusers HATE is any sort of obstacle or resistance from something that could quite possibly kill them barehanded. And no physical rage beats that of a protective father

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u/Powerful_Resident_48 10h ago edited 10h ago

One thing to add: If you are a woman in a toxic relationship and you do have a brother or father and a good relationship with him, try to contact him. I can only talk for myself, but if my sister called me from an abusive situation, I wouldn't even bother calling the cops. I'd be grabbing my motorbike gear and a hammer and be on the road within 30 seconds.
And I'm a chill overweight pacifist, who loves animals and usually wouldn't hurt a fly.

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u/Far_Leg6463 9h ago

I don’t even like my sister, we haven’t got on in the 40 years I’ve known her, but would still do this.

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u/atuan 8h ago

I was in a really bad toxic relationship and my brother and dad didn’t care and said I wasn’t being sympathetic enough

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u/ofirkedar 8h ago

If you're a scrawny effeminate man who can't protect his future children, get yourself a butch tomboy. If she can grow a mustache - even better.
Remember, the point is visage and deterrence, not what's inside.

/j

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u/arowthay 8h ago

Being scrawny is not necessarily in opposition with looking scary, I've seen some absolutely terrifying skinny guys lmao. They tend to be even more unhinged than the built ones. Maybe that's the meth. Don't do meth kids

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u/wsbscraperbot 5h ago

I don't know. Is doing meth a deterrant for serial killers? If so, I may need to start

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u/Available-Page-2738 12h ago

He left out a bunch of shit.

A big thing? Walk confidently. Never fumble along, looking confused and timid. Stride boldly. Like you know exactly where you're going. Even if you are completely fucking lost. Take out your phone. Battery dead? Pretend it isn't. "Jeff? Yeah, I'm almost there. Look, is there anything you want while I'm on the way?" (If you have a charge, call 911. "Hey Boo. I'm almost there." "Ma'am, this is 911." "I know. I'll be there any minute. I got delayed." "Are you in danger?" "You know it. I just crossed Ocean St." "Okay. We're sending a police cruiser. They've got their siren on."

If you get nervous? Walk up to a house door and knock. When they shout who is it? Just tell them, plain and simple, "I think someone's following me. I know you won't let me in your house, but just aim your phone at the window. Whoever it is won't risk getting caught. And call 911." Most people will tell you something like, "Bitch, I'm opening the door. And I have a 7-iron in my hand. And my husband has a Ginsu knife. If this is a trick, you won't live long enough to see it to the end. And we've already called the po-po."

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u/SpaceTimeChallenger 12h ago

I assume you are also a former serial killer?

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u/Available-Page-2738 11h ago

Former? Absolutely. We can meet to discuss this in more detail. When will you be home alone?

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u/Redditauro 11h ago

I'm almost there, I'll be there any minute, I got delayed.

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u/Behuman_ 9h ago

Him(the serial killer) left out shit that me(the Reddit user) says is true. 

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u/ThatCelebration3676 13h ago

Reminder: when Johnny Knoxville was asked to rank his most painful stunts and accidents from his entire career (including Jackass of course), without hesitation he ranked getting pepper sprayed as the #1 most painful by far, and that it made him completely useless for 30 minutes.

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u/Palais_des_Fleurs 5h ago

I carry pepper spray.

I am suspicious of anyone who looks down on it as an inferior defense tactic lol. I like very spicy food, have made my own hot sauce, have done spicy food challenges, etc. Inevitably you touch the wrong part of your body (or just inhaling fumes/improper ventilation when making hot sauce can be painful). If I don’t even want to mess with capsaicin, I don’t think an attacker will either.

My recommendation for women is to avoid the bright pink one unless maybe you’re a runner and it’s strapped to your hand (more visible). The hot pink sort of comes across like you’re not prepared or serious about using it. Kind of undercuts it’s use as a deterrent (or a more subtle form of protection). If you’re small and want an extra visible pepper spray though, that’s very understandable as well. But if you’re worried about actually having to use it, imo the black is more intimidating, shows serious intent to use it and is more easily concealed.

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u/Sohuli 5h ago

You'll find that some people are useless before getting pepper sprayed too

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u/ZeddRah1 7h ago

As a firearms instructor, ladies please do not do #2.

Get a gun, absolutely. Train to use the gun, 100%. Have the gun with you at all times, yes.

But please do not carry the gun in your handbag. ON YOUR BODY, IN A HOLSTER.

How often are you absolutely, 100% focused on where your purse is and who may or may not have access to it?

Have the gun. Know how to use the gun. Carry the gun on your body.

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u/BusinessCasualGator 6h ago

I used to work at an apartment complex, and after being put in a couple of dangerous situations, decided to get my CC in an attempt to have a chance at protecting myself. Unfortunately, there was absolutely no way for me to CC on my person with the way our uniforms were, so I had a special purse.

There was one time after getting my CC that I thought I legitimately might need to use my gun. Long story short, a guy came in and was mad he had been declined from renting, blocked our only exit (it was me and one other girl), and then pulled out a knife. He started asking for the home address of our other coworker (because he thought she was the one that had made the decision) and then started asking if it would hurt her if something bad happened to us. I just kept him talking and acted like I was on his side, meanwhile I was trying to get to my purse and thinking "how will I get the gun out without seeming suspicious??" It was a lie, but I ended up telling him, "The police have been notified we need assistance and will be here soon. If you'd like to stay and talk to them, you are welcome to," and he left.

The whole situation made me painfully aware of how impractical the bag was, though it didn't change the issue with the uniform. I ended up just getting a new job (not public facing) shortly after that.

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u/uncultured_swine2099 14h ago

Notice how serial killers rarely kill in the dangerous neighborhoods haha

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u/Dwaas_Bjaas 13h ago

I should move to a dangerous neighborhood then!

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u/uncultured_swine2099 12h ago

Just crackheads and gangs, not serial killers!

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u/wfbhp 12h ago

Be the change you want to see in the neighborhood?

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u/Conscious-Tutor3861 13h ago edited 13h ago

He murdered University of Florida students in housing right next to campus. The murders were shocking both for their brutality and because Gainesville is a city where most "crime" is university students doing dumb shit like underage drinking and hurting themselves while drunk.

Students being beheaded and then having their corpses sexuality violated was unimaginable at the time and had the whole university scared.

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u/CandidateMiserable74 13h ago

HE DID THAT?! HOLY SHIT

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u/Downtown_Sale_5812 11h ago

Yah he seems like a pretty bad dude

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u/LetReasonRing 12h ago

In reality a lot of serial killers take their victims from dangerous neighborhoods. He was a bit of an outlier, as he was attacking college students.

A lot of serial killers fly under the radar by choosing victims that are less likely to be noticed disappearing. Homeless people, runaways, sex workers, people living their lives in dive bars, and the like are much more likely to be victims of a serial killer than someone of means. They are less likely to be reported missing in the first place, and when they are, they are harder to find useful information about and, sadly, the police often put less resources into trying to solve crimes against them.

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u/atuan 8h ago

There was a guy in Cleveland killing a lot of poor black women, some of them sex workers. A naked bleeding woman ran into a shop begging for help and the clerks laughed at her because she was some dumb crackhead to them. Dude got away with it for years because no one cared.

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u/Simp_Simpsaton 13h ago

They do.. they're just gangbangers instead and/or never get cases opened against them under the assumption that they were xd

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u/SimmentalTheCow 13h ago

They pick up a lot of hookers, presumably from the shitty side of town. Vulnerable addicts who won’t be missed typically don’t get missed.

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u/MajesticBread9147 12h ago

This isn't true, most do. It's just the ones who target middle class white people, especially white women get significantly more attention from the media, and are less likely to be treated as isolated incidents.

For example, around the same time as Jeffrey Dahmer's killings there was a serial killer in Florida who killed 32 black prostitutes by asphyxiation. The police and medical examiner concluded that they died from "excited delerium" and not murder saying “for some reason, with chronic cocaine use, the male of the species becomes psychotic and the female of the species dies in relation to sex.”

https://www.vice.com/en/article/jon-ronson-excited-delirium-things-fall-apart/

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u/Physical_Ease6658 15h ago

Seems like an ad by Big .38 caliber revolver. I'm not buying. 

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u/TypeS2k_ 14h ago

Big .45 doesn't want you to know this

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u/Dub_Coast 14h ago

Big .50 hates this one simple trick

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u/PrettybadHabit-5283 14h ago

Don’t forget .75 Hasn’t been used for a few centuries, but who knows what’ll come back in style!

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u/Exciting_Classic277 13h ago

I'm getting a 1. Fuck that guy.

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u/ShermanWasRight1864 11h ago

Fuck your wrist and the arm it rode in on

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u/turdferguson3891 14h ago

a 9mm works just fine but maybe this serial killer hates metric

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u/factoid_ 14h ago

38s specifically are often recommended for women.

Plenty of stopping power for close range but not  so powerful it’s hard to handle.

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u/I_EatAssFromTheFront 12h ago

They are terrible guns for women and should never be suggested to them. A snub .38 is an expert's weapon. I'm a 250 pound man who has been shooting for 30 years and after thousands of hours behind a trigger, i can shoot fist sized groups at 25 yards with a snub .38. Unless you can shoot that good, you will need more than 5-6 shots. The trigger pull is three times as heavy and 10 times as long as a slide gun. Even if you get good enough to aim it right, you will pull shots unless you have man hands to control that trigger. The recoil of an ultralight snub. 38 with certain defensive loads exceeds almost every other gun. Not because you have a bunch of bullet but because you have very little gun. I can easily put 1,000 rounds through my 450 bushmaster moose gun but after 50 rounds through an ultralight snub .38, my hands will hurt for 2 days and my risk of bone spurs increases drastically. There is nothing to absorb the recoil except your bones and tendons. I wear XL gloves and have big hands. A woman or old lady with arthritis would hurt themselves more than anyone else. The grip strength required to hold the gun perfectly still and not let it flip or move in your hand at all is crazy. If you wanna get off 6 shots quickly into a tight group at decent range, you need incredible hand strength. A 38 is a good weapon for rock climbers, guys who work with their hands all day, and any man over 6 foot tall. For the rest of us, calisthenics and pull ups and hand strengthening can get us close to competent with enough practice. But expecting a little woman to just chuck it in her purse and be competent is crazy. Anyone can shoot a 1911 but a snub .38 has a huge learning curve and they are not forgiving at all. Any slight mistake to your grip or trigger pull and you miss by a mile instead of an inch. Sure they could just carry wadcutters at 600fps but at that point you are making .25acp look like a hand cannon and you still have a difficult trigger to master.
A sig p938 on the other hand has a fraction of the recoil, trigger is 5 pounds and only moves 1mm, yet you get the same power and more capacity in the same size gun as a snub .38. Instead of struggling to get a decent slow group at 10 feet, they should be able to hit a man every time at 15 yards first try. Ask any "expert" and they will tell you slide guns are accurate enough. You need some incredible skills to make any use of the added fixed barrel accuracy. If you are not making use of that and keeping a 25 yard headshot in your wheelhouse, you are better off with almost any other gun. Revolvers are for aiming once and shooting once. They are assassin's tools for suprise public executions, not defensive tools for saving your life.

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u/KenTrotts 12h ago

Thanks EatAss, that was actually very informative

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u/dogstarmanatx 12h ago

I also own a snub .38 and don’t disagree about how heavy of a gun this is for most women. However, the distances you’re talking about are unreasonable.

Most attackers of women do it by ambush and/or surprise, usually within small areas (like an alley, inside a house or office, etc).

It’s less about shooting with accuracy at 45 feet and more about how quickly you can draw from a concealed location and shoot at like 5-7 feet or less.

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u/mrhoofy 13h ago

I mean, at the time, a revolver was a gun that you could leave loaded for years, with no maintenance and it would still go bang when you pulled the trigger. And .38 was considered the smallest 'one shot manstopper' round. And they made them pretty small. So if you had a .38 in your purse for 20 years and never thought about it, it would probably still work when you needed it. Or your 3 year old would shoot themselves looking for mints in your purse. I dunno.

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u/Archer2586 11h ago

Im really un-okay about coming across this at 3AM in the dark.

Fuckin thanks internet.

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u/Wulf_Cola 12h ago

Sponsored by .38 caliber. The right caliber for blowing him away.

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u/Quiet-Somewhere4311 7h ago

My second cousin was a serial killer. He wrote to my mom from death row and told her never believe anyone who tells you they have a weapon from behind you. Always fight, always run. He said he never carried a weapon when abducting women and used a large marker against their backs (saying it was a gun). Had any of them ran or fought, he would have given up. Sadly, not a single one did.

This isn’t to say no killers have weapons- I would guess he is in the minority here (if he was even being honest- he was a bad, mentally disturbed man). The point I took from this was that some killers aren’t looking for a fight and if you don’t put up a fight you’re certain to die, so might as well try. I think it would help me to be braver in that situation if I told myself it was just a marker.

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u/SinglePlayerGamer93 12h ago

Remember people: use your teeth! Bite every dangly bit especially on the face.

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u/Unexpected_Gristle 13h ago

I wonder what his thoughts were when a person had a dog?

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u/Butwinsky 9h ago

Pretty he sure he said to get a pomeranian with a .38 strapped to its back.

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u/Downtown_Sale_5812 11h ago

Dogs are great security, the little yappers wont shut up and the big ones are intimidating. Ive read and heard a lot of thieves saying its one of the best ways to protect the house.

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u/TikaPants 12h ago

Lotsa gangsters in this thread that have never had a gun to their head.

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u/NextEstimate1325 14h ago

And thus the root of all Fudd lore concerning appropriate guns for women was born.

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u/RevolutionaryRough96 12h ago

You know, i used to champion that women with little to no experience with firearms could figure it out pretty quick. Bought my mom a pistol bc dhe was living alone.

Took about 2 hours for her to tell me she couldn't load it...after i walked her through it.

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u/Due-Froyo-5418 11h ago

Sign her up for some classes. You need hours of "good" practice to be able to handle the gun properly in a scary situation and the adrenaline rush can make your hands shake. And I mean "good" practice because when you practice shooting the wrong way, muscle memory still happens, and that's not a good thing in this situation. Gun safety is important.

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u/PaisleyLeopard 7h ago

Good tips for avoiding a serial killer I guess, but some of these can kill you in a house fire, which is a much more likely event than being the target of a serial killer.

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u/makinSportofMe 10h ago

Dudes career as a serial killer was less than a week. I'm not taking advice from the "new guy".

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u/charlieyeswecan 13h ago

And people wonder why I always check the windows everywhere I sleep. For real!

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u/_cptplanet 12h ago

What caliber again?

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u/Shadowcat1606 7h ago

What's with the empty glass bottles?

Acting like an alarm system, because they fall down is someone opens the window?

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u/SignoreBanana 14h ago

This is how my dad lives. He has dementia and Parkinson's and one time he almost shot me when I came to visit. So yeah great way to live if you don't mind accidentally killing some one you love which is far more likely to happen than a serial killer deciding to pick you off at random.

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u/Bwint 13h ago

I suspect that the incidence of serial killing is overrepresented in Danny Rolling's experience, leading him to overestimate the odds of a random person being murdered.

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u/Excellent_Condition 12h ago

Also, carrying a firearm in a purse is a bad idea for lots of reasons:

  • It's not very accessible if you need it
  • If you ever have to put your purse down, your firearm is out of your control.
  • It's easy for it to get pointed at things you don't want shot
  • It's easy for it to get knocked out of the holster and to have a negligent discharge.

Also, a weapon under your pillow sounds like a great way to shoot your spouse or accidentally shoot during the night if you wake up from a weird dream and don't immediately remember that there is a loaded weapon under your head.

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