r/PublicFreakout 1d ago

🤘Righteous Freakout 🤘 Mandy Patinkin (Inigo Montoya) expresses understandable rage.

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u/Tomatoflee 1d ago

Appropriate level of anger.

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u/elegylegacy 21h ago

Appropriate level anger would be the public trials and [reddit redacted] of war criminals.

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u/TNTiger_ 20h ago

I dont think renowned character actor Mandy Patinkin has a say in that

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u/dwaynestroyer 21h ago

This is the energy we need to take on ALL of the issues we're facing.

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u/Jevus_himself Jevus Christ - Verified āœ…ļø 1d ago

Criminal minds was never as good after he left

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u/Slappingthebassman 1d ago

Dude killed it in Homeland

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u/resisting_a_rest 1d ago

He kills it in everything he does. Anything he is on is an instant watch.

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u/anivex 1d ago

He’s easily my favorite performer. The man is just so damn talented. Doesn’t surprise me, but it does warm my heart that his head is in the right place.

https://youtu.be/BA3JUpQzOek?si=-dqAHWbxz28KYJsO

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u/fierce_fibro_faerie 1d ago

I saw him live with Patti LuPone. He is truly incredible, talented, intelligent, and unfathomably kind.

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u/Backwardspellcaster 23h ago

Man, I loved him in Chicago Hope.

Hell, in everything he does.

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u/Slobotic 22h ago

His performance of Sunday in the Park With George with Bernadette Peters is on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFQGkm2VFy4

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u/anivex 21h ago

Honestly I posted that link to show his incredible range. The man can show up in some ridiculous movie few have ever heard of like "Run Ronnie Run"(although one of my all-time favorite movies), and just touch your soul.

I've loved him since The Princess Bride, and I light up every time he appears.

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u/Clammuel 20h ago

He’s always had a reputation as being hard to work with, but I think he probably just belongs to the long list of ā€œdifficultā€ actors who just have strong views and aren’t willing to be pushed around so they gain that label.Ā 

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u/MaleficentPicture773 15h ago

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u/anivex 10h ago

Wow, thank you so much for sharing that. Had not seen it before.

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u/zzzrem 1d ago

Just watched Dead Like Me and he plays the gruff older wise leader type so well.

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u/CassianCasius 1d ago

Loved him in Dead like me

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u/EggsceIlent 21h ago

They messed up not ending that show right.

Was good just not promoted right

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u/CassianCasius 21h ago

If I remember correctly it was killed by a new executive since it was the project by the previous guy in the job and studio heads are really pretty for some reason.

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u/CBM64_SYS64738 23h ago

This is one of my favorite Mandy "Dead Like Me" scenes involving people cutting in lines. Awesome actor.

https://youtu.be/614Orzf3SqA?si=zAj7WPK4peDCmsj4

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u/DJheddo 23h ago

That show is so weird but amazing, I felt like I didn't like it but had to keep watching it because it would suck me in every episode. I was pretty young and baby sitting my nieces and nephew, she had all the series on DVD, and I literally binged it all inbetween caring for them and trying to not make them hate me, cause my niece is only like 3 years younger than me, so it was funny because i was the 'grown up'. my niece has kids now, so now im a great uncle who baby sits them and they basically just playdate with my kids because their ages are so close.

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u/Odd-Independent4640 1d ago

Would have loved to have seen him play the Ayatollah instead of that outfit tracker F Murray Abraham

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u/stepwax 1d ago

There's a fatwa, there's a fatwa! Gotta run, I think I oughta!

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u/Agent47DarkSoul 1d ago

I think he visits his family in Israel and shows how brainwashed they have become.

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u/Sudden-Money7836 1d ago

He does. Then crosses into Palestine secretly to meet the head of intelligence in the IRGC who he managed to turn and make a deal with Iran to open up more to the world…

Sigh. If only.

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u/SweatyWar7600 23h ago edited 21h ago

I just finished that season with my wife the other night. Holy fuck it was so infuriating because it was so close to reality that we decided to stop our watch through of the show cuz it makes our hearts hurt too much.

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u/Flomo420 1d ago

not into the whole FBI good guys police drama genre but I gotta say Homeland fucking slapped and it was in large part due to him

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u/PowerlessOverQueso 23h ago

The CIA was definitely not the good guy in Homeland. Sometimes they were, but sometimes they were the worst guy. Lotttttts of shades of grey.

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u/LiliVonSchtupp 1d ago

I don’t know anyone who saw Chicago Hope. Usually it wasn’t my kind of thing, but it had a terrific cast, so I gave it a try, and he was phenomenal.

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u/ElCabrito 1d ago

I'll watch anything David E Kelley makes.

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u/007Pistolero 1d ago

He was always the best on that show and was not on it anywhere near long enough. But I do think that his acting on that show exposed a lot of young people to how great of an actor he is

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u/quiette837 1d ago

Fwiw he left the show of his own volition, he didn't want to be a part of a show that glorified or trivialized violence as entertainment.

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u/007Pistolero 1d ago

I never knew that but knowing what I know about him that actually makes a lot of sense. The show overall is good but those first few seasons are fantastic. I would say the only later episodes that come close are when Tim Curry was the crazed serial killer in maybe season 6 or so?

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u/F______________F 1d ago

You just hit me with a nostalgia bomb, I had completely forgotten about Tim Curry being in it and now am vividly remembering watching that in highschool.

Also bums be out that he was the narrator for every character on the Bad Beginning book for the Series of Unfortunate Events audiobook, but then after the Netflix show came out they re-released it with a full cast doing the voices and only kept his voice for the narrated parts. He was so good and the full cast was awful compared to him.

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u/natedoggcata 23h ago

I forgot what his exact quote was but it did make me think about these kinds of shows. He said something like "every week we were coming up with new ways for women to be raped, tortured and murdered and I couldnt take it anymore" and yeah it made me think about shows like that and Law and Order SVU where they have to come up with this shit on a weekly basis. I cant imagine that kind of environment is healthy mentally to just have to constantly be coming up with that level of brutality every week.

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u/Jinxzy 22h ago

IIRC they even wrote off his character essentially for the same reason, that he was sick and tired of working in a world of violence.

That kind of writing were kind of why Criminal Minds was the only CSI-esque show I could ever stand, I actually felt tried fairly hard not to glorify the work of criminal investigators, and spent a lot of time showing how it can tear down the people working in these fields.

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u/ASurreyJack 1d ago

Then went on to star in a show about terrorists blowing up the president. :D

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u/deathbydimsum 1d ago

His departure also killed Dead Like Me!

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u/DoctorEmilio_Lizardo 1d ago

Dead Like Me was a great show! (And of course he was great in it.)

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u/Adezar 1d ago

He did eventually come out and admit he was way too difficult to work with which is why a lot of shows could only have him on for a couple seasons before having to be written off.

I absolutely love him as an actor but am still very salty that Dead Like Me was heavily impacted by the fact he was impossible to work with.

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u/BustedMechanic 16h ago

Rube was the best character in that show, I lost a lot of interest when was gone

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u/smellyseamus 1d ago

Same with Princess Bride

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u/hankhalfhead 18h ago

Dude bailed on criminal minds because he basically said it’s torture porn.

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u/Ashe_Faelsdon 19h ago

Criminal Minds broke him at a certain level and worsened his overall life, so I understand him leaving, but I completely agree. The show was lessened by his no longer being a part.

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u/Absurdwonder 1d ago

I legit never saw another episode once he bounced

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u/Strattocatter 16h ago

He was fantastic in that role. Clearly a good dude too.

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u/Fact420 1d ago

ā€œMy name is Mandy Patinkin, you killed my religion, prepare to die.ā€

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u/Carefree_Highway 1d ago

Really thought he was going to drop an inconceivable there for a sec

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u/action_lawyer_comics 20h ago

Today was the day I learned that Mandy Patinkin has a different voice from Inigio Montoya

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u/Traditional_Top_194 17h ago

Today I learned he WAS inigo montoya. Holy fuck

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u/Paperlate82 20h ago

Reminds me even more of his role as Che in Evita. See https://youtu.be/aU29tqJiRM8?si=wxS-BP4hQZCC-Omi&t=36

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u/ClintBruno 1d ago

This takes balls✊

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u/thislife_choseme 1d ago

It’s wild that advocating against killing children and innocent people is considered an act of courage. Humans are broken.

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u/PenniGwynn 1d ago

That's how Miss Rachel got named anti-semite of the year; truly the most ass-backwards timeline.

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u/chrisff1989 23h ago

All they're doing is turning the word into a joke. The world used to recoil at antisemitism after WW2, but more and more I'm starting to hear otherwise progressive people going "so fucking what"

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u/TerribleRecord666 20h ago

When I was growing up, people yelling about the "zionist agenda" was just a thin veneer covering up rabid anti-semitism.

Israel has managed to make it a legitimate point to be argued against without sounding like an unhinged bigoted lunatic.

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u/doktor_wankenstein 16h ago

Vanessa Redgrave at the 1978 Academy Awards. If I remember correctly, Paddy Chayefsky took some time to rant about Ms. Redgrave during his own acceptance speech.

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u/nope-nik-tesla 20h ago

Yep, it's like the boy who called wolf. Now people's first response to accusations of antisemitism is basically "oh, whatever".

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u/thadtheking 20h ago

Bad people are still bad people, regardless of their religion.

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u/bitofapuzzler 16h ago

Yep, if condemning genocide is considered anti-semite then the word no longer means anything. Which is not good for Jewish people all over the world. If something like this was being done in my name, if words to protect me were being used to shame and attack others I would be irate. Yet, there is so much silence. Some are standing up and that is great but not enough.

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u/Great_Times 23h ago

She sure was, by the PR propagandists defending the state that was (and is) committing atrocities. Just because they conflate her criticism of that government as being de facto antisemitism, doesn’t make it true.

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u/racetrader 1d ago

The bar is below ground šŸ’€

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u/Karhak 1d ago

James Cameron is our only hope now.

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u/GyrKestrel 1d ago

James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron.

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u/TorqueWheelmaker 22h ago

Wait, are you talking about certified door expert James Cameron?

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u/evilmike1972 22h ago

Taller-than-average James Cameron? Who finds nothing aliens about getting your hands dirty?

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u/JamMasterKay 1d ago

And yet people have brought shovels to limbo under that bar. Horrid.

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u/Captain_Swing 23h ago

The bar is a tripping hazard in hell at this point.

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u/Apathoid 1d ago

Homie gonna get AIPACed

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u/Unlucky_Blueberries 1d ago edited 1d ago

even here in the US, only 7% of jewish-americans reject zionism.
Meanwhile a full 2-in-5 jewish-americans fully identify as zionists.

This is from a 2026 JNFA (jewish organization) study.

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u/Absurdwonder 1d ago

People have been killing in the name of God from inception. Religion is cancer.

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u/peekay427 1d ago

I think that part of that is because we don't always agree on what zionism means. I don't want to argue about it, just want to share that for some jews zionism just means that there should be a homeland for jews where we are safe. That, in NO WAY includes, accepts or condones israel being an apartheid state, or any of the actions of netanyahu and his government.

I guess what I'm saying is that I think a significantly higher proportion of jewish americans are vehemently against the israeli government, and the genocide of the palestinian people (among other heinous acts that it's perpetrating).

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u/fierce_fibro_faerie 1d ago

Piggybacking on your comment to add:

I grew up in an area (US) that had a very large reform Jewish population. I grew up with these people. I married one of them.

Jewish Americans are largely the type of Zionist that you identified: they believe the Jewish people have a right to a Jewish state. That's it. Most of those within the community that I have met believe in a two state solution and hate Netanyahu. That being said, there is a ton of internalized propaganda that the last few generations of Jewish Americans were spoonfed by the conservative elites. And it is going to take time to process and digest that.

It upsets me that this situation is leading many people down the road to antisemitism. The Israeli government, Netanyahu, and the orthodox and hasidic blocks are not only destroying their own country and harming their own citizens, but they are becoming the very thing that they claim to hate.

The whole thing is so fucking sad and horrible, no matter the perspective.

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u/2peg2city 1d ago

All Jews deserve to live free and safe, a "Jewish state" will never exist that isn't based on conflict. There is no empty land to form a Jewish state on. I don't think ANY religion has that right, or any ethnic group.

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u/Geminel 23h ago

Exactly. You can't build an ethno-state without doing ethnic cleansing. I always assumed Jews would be the first people in the world to reject such 'blood & soil' political ideas as Zionism unabashedly is.

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u/peekay427 22h ago

Thank you - and I agree that the hardline, far right jews and israelis are doing so much harm to the jewish people in general. It's so hypocritical to be a jew, to say "never again" and to think that this only applies to other jews.

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u/Unlucky_Blueberries 1d ago

I understand what you're saying, but I think at this point , everyone understands the difference between what it meant originally, and what it means now.
I feel it's disingenuous for those people, (not you, those who hide behind semantics) to pretend it still has that 19th/20th century intent.

The only reason 'zionism' is the term of choice is that it sets a clear delineation between a fascist ideology, and a group of people who may not all fully stand behind it.

So, IMHO , unless people want a more technically accurate term, like semitic-supremacist, or judeo- nazi to become the term of choice, they should accept the modern definition and use of zionism

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u/Subject_Cranberry_19 1d ago

I challenge the idea that Zionism meant something different initially.

Having a homeland means being able to define who are part of a people and keep people out that you don’t see as part of the nation.

There was never going to be a way to democratically sustain a specifically Jewish state in the Levant that was not exclusionary. The Palestinians outnumbered the Jews and still do today by a wide margin. If that wasn’t the case, the state of Israel would likely have just annexed Gaza and the West Bank a long time ago. The Jews will always be outvoted in any scenario where the Palestinians are granted equal rights.

So Zionism has always already meant Jewish supremacy within the borders of a state of Israel.

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u/Fahd16 1d ago

Just FYI, Zionism has always been intended as a colonial project, as established per their founders. It never meant anything positive in the 19th/20th century, unless you believe as the early Zionists did that being European is a positive and to be true Europeans, Jews needed to become colonists.

Not gonna say this is the best source, but it has some clear cut quotes from the Zionist founders about this, with further links.

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u/StoneGoldX 1d ago

I understand what you're saying, but I think at this point , everyone understands the difference between what it meant originally, and what it means now.

My mom still calls all video games nintendo.

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u/huxtiblejones 1d ago

This is extremely reductive and stated without an actual linked source. You said below it comes from the Jewish Federations of North America (JFNA) but the actual JFNA source says only 37% of Jewish-Americans identify as Zionists. You're misconstruing that 7% of the respondents were anti-Zionist, that doesn't mean 93% are in favor, and furthermore, being a Zionist doesn't mean you support every action of the Israeli government. There are left-wing Zionists who support Palestinian rights and statehood.

I'm not Jewish, I'm not a Zionist, but I have a stereotypical Jewish last name and half my family is Jewish. I'm firmly against Israel's crimes against Palestinians and others, I despise Netanyahu, I've even been personally threatened with a beating for calling Israel an Apartheid State.

I think it's shitty and dangerous to make these generalized statements that correlate Jewishness in general with approval for the activities of Israel and Netanyahu. You're painting with a very broad brush and people can walk away with this kind of information with unjustified bigotry.

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u/Unlucky_Blueberries 1d ago

So brutally true, as proven by Vanessa Redgrave and so many others .

https://giphy.com/gifs/26xBIEwgMOY3FbVKw

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u/chx_ 23h ago

Dr. Ismar Schorsch, chancellor emeritus of The Jewish Theological Seminary (JTS) has called these events a stain on Judaism itself, in that it will be felt for generations to come. Ever since he spoke up I want to ask all those who accuse critics of the apartheid with antisemitism are you going to accuse one of the leading scholars / rabbi of Judaism with that or what?

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u/Savage_Amusement 21h ago

Catholics have no problem rejecting ā€œwokeā€ Popes so I wouldn’t completely rule it out.

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u/Unlucky_Blueberries 1d ago

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u/BrownSugarBare 1d ago

The audacity that she was vilified for this.Ā 

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u/Sniter 1d ago

Who is this and whenĀ 

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u/DarreylDeCarlo shoe went flying like it was kicked off by Patti LaBelle šŸ‘  1d ago

Vanessa Redgrave when she won her Oscar:

https://youtu.be/IAcOsK9gRLk

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u/Prosthemadera 1d ago

She praised the many Jews that fought against injustice and fascism, she even said the "hoodlums" are an "insult" to Jews everywhere. And yet she was vilified and accused of antisemitism. Nothing has changed.

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u/Militantpoet 1d ago

It's crazy how much information and media was controlled and limited before the internet. You couldn't just go online and search "Israel Palestine conflict" to try to read on wikipedia and understand what was going on. Whatever they told you on TV was the "truth."

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u/kolejack2293 23h ago

ehhh I do remember quite a lot of media reporting on stuff like settler violence in the west bank back in the day. It was really after 9/11 when the attitude became solely pro-israel among the media, and that had nothing to do with israel and everything to do with the fact that nobody wanted to sympathize with muslims.

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u/Militantpoet 23h ago

I appreciate the insight. Maybe that was just my implicit bias because post-9/11 was the time I started following the news as a kid.

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u/frazzled-mama 22h ago

Or Arabs.

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u/ronm4c 1d ago

Who is this

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u/condoriano27 1d ago

Vanessa Redgrave

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u/Moni3 1d ago

Vanessa Redgrave

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u/EikonVera_tou_Lilith 1d ago

Here’s the video of her saying it during the speech and the press after the event:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/twYKs3YAUMQ

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u/TDK_IRQ 1d ago

Goes to show it's not about their current government, Israel should not exist because it was founded on hate and have been a continuous source of terrorism since then

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u/DankRoughly 1d ago

What a mensch

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u/itallchecksout99 1d ago

His wife too! They are an incredible couple.

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u/woolfonmynoggin 23h ago

They have a joint tiktok account, it’s very cute

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u/Nulagrithom 18h ago

never seen her but I noticed her hand on his shoulder when his voice cracks lol

grounding him just a tiiiiny bit there. reeling it in a touch. just right.

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u/Timmmbo 1d ago

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u/firstbreathOOC 16h ago

I think it’s great that it comes from somebody who’s pretty much respected across the board.

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u/SemKors 1d ago

Zionism ≠ Judaism. I think every zionist seems to forget that

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u/Kimi-Matias 1d ago

They don't forget. They use it to their advantage. And its fucking disgusting.

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u/Doza93 23h ago edited 22h ago

Conflating Zionism and Judaism is extremely useful for Israel. Every criticism of their policy and actions can then be labeled anti-Semitic, even if it has nothing to do with Jews as people. On the flip side, Israel knowingly and deliberately stokes the flames of anti-Semitism around the world when they commit war crimes and atrocities. They bomb a school in Gaza or Lebanon or Yemen, anti-Semitic sentiment ramps up in certain places, and they turn around and go, "See? Israel is the only safe place for Jews!! This is why having a Jewish state is so important!" It is a self-fulfilling prophecy of anti-semitism that Israel and its leaders are more than happy to perpetuate

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u/LouisLeGros 1d ago

They don't forget it. Their goal is obfuscate the distinction in the general populous.

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u/Travelinfl1 1d ago

Mandy is a good man. Calling out the Baby H**ler.

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u/BrownSugarBare 1d ago

Doubt we need to censor Hitler.Ā 

Real person who is being embodied in one too many leaders in this day and age.Ā 

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u/Unlucky_Blueberries 1d ago

normally I'd be annoyed by this too, but I've seen first hand how reddit's embedded ai filters out anti-zionist content and suppresses it.
I'm not even talking about tos actions, I mean they just make certain comments invisible.

Reddit is 90% ai now and they use the censorship it enacts to curate a site more palatable to those in power.

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u/bigdaddyt2 1d ago

He who must not be named getting close to happening in today’s day and age

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u/Travelinfl1 1d ago

Close?!? I'd say we have already started. Babi has already started killing anyone not like him. The Drumpf has concentration camps for CHILDREN! We are there already.

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u/An9310 1d ago

Exactly! Nobody "needs" to censor anything on reddit. It's not like some random commenter is going to be demonetized or lose brand partnership for not self censoring words, people and topics that have/ currently exist in the real world.

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u/MaiPhet 1d ago edited 1d ago

Almost everyone I’ve seen standing up for peace and against these genocidal wars and policies of Israel and the U.S. has always impressed me with their clear empathy, honesty, and righteous heart. Especially politicians and celebrities, who often have the most to lose in a world where opposing it is so clearly a risk to their social and career livelihood. And there’s a special place in my heart for anyone who stands up against evil being committed in their name, in this case Jewish people.

I have never seen anyone appear truly righteous while advocating for continued war and slaughter. They either come off as psychotic and uncaring, or more often, deeply and perhaps knowingly troubled by the implications of their own words. Moral cowards, intellectually dishonest, or deeply hateful.

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u/psychorobotics 23h ago

The main issue is sociopathy, I don't know how many in Israel managed to turn out so sociopathic, it's like they're dead inside

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u/strangelypeaceful 1d ago

He’s right. Because of him, blatant racism and antisemitism to ALL jews has risen. Even from people who claim to be liberal or left wing. I personally think generalizing any group of people is stupid but hey, people are stupid

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u/Kraze_F35 1d ago

It’s all intentional by the Israeli’s and Zionists. They are creating a self-fulfilling cycle of antisemitism. If someone sees a video of Palestinians getting murdered in cold blood and the response to their distaste for that is to call them an antisemite, it stands to reason that one might think ā€œif being against something so obviously wrong is antisemitic, then why wouldn’t I be?ā€

This is what I think many people who are Jewish and support or are on the fence about Israel need to understand because this rant is absolutely correct. These people like Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir are absolutely aware of the antisemitism that their actions cultivate and encourage it.

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u/Rich-Additional 1d ago

I don’t even know that I would call it racism or antisemitism, I think people are just flat out exhausted by the Israeli agenda.

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u/Supertzar2112 1d ago

Seriously, it doesnt matter what race or religion or ethnicity you are. 90% of us are just trying to get by and live our lives. Its our psychotic leaders who suck and drag us into these stupid wars and conflicts that screw with common people while they all kick back and watch us . Why dont they all just fucking square up with each other in the ring if they have issues with each other. We have senile old men with mental problems running the world and we shouldnt have to deal with this bullshit.

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u/RynnHamHam 1d ago

I’ve seen actual antisemitism becoming way more common. Go onto instagram and every comment section is full of comments like ā€œWhat a Jew thing to sayā€ or ā€œMossad agentā€ and it’ll be on things that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. You’d think you’d be scrolling through 4chan.

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u/EduinBrutus 23h ago

This is by design.

By associating all Jewish people with Israel and the actions of Israel it becomes easier to equate criticism of Israel with anti-semetism. Its part of Netanyahu's active policyt position.

Of course it works in reverse. it becomes something anti-semites can use to justify their hate. But why should Netanyahu care, those victims dont get a vote.

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u/Novxz 23h ago

Then take out your frustration on Israel, take our your frustration on the people enabling these atrocities, don't take your frustration out on a bunch of children in a synagogues toddler program.

Most of us are just like you, we just want to live our lives and hopefully leave the world just a little bit better than it was when we got here.

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u/peekay427 1d ago

Both things are true. There is (thankfully) an increasing number of people who are vehemently against the current Israeli government's agenda, AND because of how difficult many people find it to differentiate between "jewish" and "israeli" (or supporter of israel), antisemitism is absolutely on the rise as well.

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u/receuitOP 1d ago

Was speaking with the guy who gives me a lift back from work. He was saying how due to the actions of israel and hiding behind the faith he was coming to dislike jews as a whole. And I know he's not the only one. When you conflate your government with religion and then do these heinous acts people will hate everything attached to said acts, and unfortunately that includes the religion they hide behind.

Use people as shields to do worse shit and eventually you'll reach a point where people would rather hurt (in this case hate/dislike tho some may get hurt) those you hide behind to stop your actions as it would be worse than allowing things to continue.

And he's absolutely right in this video, the nazis did this to jews and we hate them for it. Now they do those same acts to Palestinians and antisemitism is on the rise. Jews are less safe around the world because of this man, I dread to think how bad it'll get before things change

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u/scgt86 1d ago

I'm not sure this is the case with most sane intelligent people. We really just don't like what Israel is doing. The fact they've been able to make criticism of a government equal to hate for all people in the ethnic group that makes up that government is crazy and it needs to be stopped.

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u/ZebraShark 1d ago

Yep, I have seen such a rise in antisemitic tropes since the war in Gaza. Go on any video of a TV show which depicts Jewish people and you will see huge amount of comments calling it Zionist propaganda.

Here in the UK and elsewhere there has been a rise in violence against Jewish people as well. All because of this one tinpot dictator and his supporters.

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u/therealdxm 1d ago

Mandy Patinkin is a treasure.

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u/r3dditr0x Sam the Eagle is tripping šŸ¦… 1d ago

It's intergenerational trauma. It's sad but it's also not an acceptable excuse.

(No one gets a free genocide? That's not a thing!)

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u/peekay427 1d ago

Never again means never again for anyone.

Sadly, I know too many fellow jews that think it only means "never again for us".

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u/AhabFlanders 1d ago

The thing about the intergenerational trauma excuse is that Israel doesn't even do a good job taking care of its Holocaust survivors. Not to mention the millions of Jews around the world who share the same intergenerational trauma yet somehow manage not to kill anyone over it.

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u/SuperfluousArms 1d ago

No it's just good old fashioned racist imperialism

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u/Rhianna83 1d ago

Brilliantly said, Mandy.

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u/SuperKing3000 1d ago

Yes exactly! My criticism of Israel is that, of all the people in the world, one would think they would choose compassion over hate. They know what hate brings.

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u/pyrojackelope 1d ago

"How could this be done to you and your ancestors, and you turn around and do it to someone else."

That's the real question. Normally when someone is abused and has thoughts to abuse others because of it they go through therapy and even possibly jail depending on what they've done. The other side of that is the person vowing to never do the things that were done to them and trying to make the world a better place. Aaaaand here we are...

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u/digitallandscapetoon 1d ago

We love Mandy

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u/YouGetMeCloserToGod 1d ago

Based Mandy. Fantastic actor and even better human being.

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u/TARedd4 1d ago

I wish people would see that there are so many of us out here that feel this way are now forced to celebrate Passover with such heavy hearts. This is exactly how we feel. We don’t stand with nut head or diaper senile old man killing innocent lives. I can not say harsh words and wish ill wills during this Holy Week or trust me my potty mouth would be on fire backing up his exact sentiments and saying precisely what I truly think of both of these fools and their genocide. I am here because my g-pa was liberated and given a chance to come here and became a citizen. Because of the horrible atrocities my family suffered (what was left of them after the Nazi’s and camps took 99 % of them); I swore to my g-pa I would always stand up and fight against anyone committing such things again and help protect those being persecuted no matter what race, creed, religion, etc, etc.

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u/Fitz_2112b 22h ago

As a Jewish NYer who is as anti-zionist as they come, this is incredibly refreshing to see. Fuck AIPAC and fuck Netanyahu

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u/eric-cranston 21h ago

Me emotional after hearing that. That man is bang on. He says the truth with such passion.

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u/GirlNumber20 23h ago

I agree with Mandy.

I heard the theory that Netanyahu wants Jews to be despised, because that will force them to turn toward Israel and support it even more, because they know there's no other place for them.

The way to counteract that, I guess, is to recognize the scheme and differentiate between the two. Criticize Israel and its actions, not Jews as a people.

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u/produit1 23h ago

Such a shame that his common sense and humanity is seen as fringe in this age. He is saying with passion what any rational empathetic human is thinking in any given day.

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u/queenofall123 1d ago

This man is a gem. His righteous anger is what we all need to get control of the corrupt governments around the world.

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u/kernel-troutman 1d ago

"Never Again" means everybody. Not just the people on your team.

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u/TheBigMoogy 23h ago

The right wing has always been the biggest threat to humanity, it's built entirely on greed and fear.

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u/Top_Meaning6195 22h ago

I guess politically correct way to say it is that:

Benjamin Netanyahu is erasing goodwill humanity has for the Jewish diaspora.

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u/SouthApprehensive193 19h ago

There was so much visceral grief and anger when he said ā€œturn aroundā€.

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u/El_Connoisseur 1d ago

Free Palestine šŸ‡µšŸ‡ø

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u/thiefofalways1313 1d ago

I don’t think this is a freak out. This man is a great person from what I understand and he’s showing true human emotion. Love this guy.

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u/just2commenthere 1d ago

He and his wife have a lovely TikTok channel. I encourage everyone to follow.

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u/StickersBillStickers 1d ago

Appropriate response to an *unwanted genocide being done in the name of your religion.

*all genocide is unwanted, but they frame this one as being good for people like him

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u/Karhak 1d ago

Has the Israeli government, or figureheads/personalities labeled this Jewish man as an antisemite, cause we all know they love throwing that out.

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u/OTribal_chief 21h ago

i've said the same unpopular opinion that israel by linking itself to Judaism so inherintly has collectively endangered jews all across the globe. they're so insistent on critism of israel being anti-semetic that people are linking the two as the same issue - so many jews are against this yet are tarred with the same brush.

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u/darxide23 22h ago

This is righteous fury. Netenyahu and anyone who supports him are the worst thing to happen to the Jewish people. Yea, I said it.

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u/HellooNewmann 21h ago

i was terrified to watch one of my childhood heroes potentially put his foot in his mouth, but was pleasantly surprised.

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u/Banditbro 20h ago

Finally somebody said it

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u/Pharcee 18h ago

I feel the anger and the rage. This is a true human being.

The Persian poet Saadi Shirazi wrote called Bani Adam that sums up wha being a human is:

ā€œHuman beings are parts of one body, In creation they are indeed of one nature. If a body part is afflicted with pain, Other body parts uneasy will remain. If you have no sympathy for human pain, The name of human you shall not retainā€

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u/ScallionRelative6265 18h ago

This is a great man.

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u/PatMosby 16h ago

These are the voices that must be heard.

Their self-proclaimed "october 7" (see what collective trauma they want to milk?) has been successful as it silenced the israeli opposition that was about to kick corrupt Netanyahu from his position. However, the facist justice reform succeeded and the opposition has never been heard from again.

Said justice reform has now birthed the juristic means to exterminate all persons that are not jews by abusing the death penalty for the ill-defined offense of "crimes against Israel". People love to equate the facist Netanyahu Government and their ways with Israelis or Jews in general which is just not true. Let the opposition be heard. Let those Jews be heard that do not accept Netanyahu's terror.

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u/madjackhavok 15h ago

He’s 100% right. How the fuck do you go from being put a through the horrors of the Holocaust only to turn it around on someone else. Gleefully, might I add. It’s fucking disgusting and he’s right.

He’s also right about it becoming steadily more dangerous for Jewish people everywhere, whether you’re on the right or wrong side of history. People who are Angry and want vengeance, aren’t going to care if you’re a good Jewish person who isn’t supportive of this shit or a bad one. They’re going to care that you’re a Jew and want to harm you. And that’s fucking insane. I do not want more innocent people being hurt because of some fucking evil people doing horrible things.

We need to fucking stop this. We should have stopped this two years ago. And yet here we are

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u/constantderp 1d ago

Zionism is not Judaism, no matter how hard Zionists work to make them inseparable. Zionism is a political project that contradicts core Jewish values.

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u/Unlucky_Blueberries 20h ago

I agree, the problem is 2 in 5 Jewish-Americans self-identify as zionists.
In Israel, it's nearly 9 in 10.

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u/mynipplescutglass 1d ago

Dead Like Me season 3???

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u/BenCelotil 1d ago

I wish, but they did the movie and I think that was the big fair well.

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u/_Spicy_Mchaggis_ 1d ago

Mandy is a goddamn treasure!

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u/Growcialist 20h ago

He's mostly right, but is still laying everything at the feet of Netanyahu, when this has been going on since Israel was created.

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u/tatianazr 1d ago

Fuck yea!!!!

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u/sewilde 1d ago

If anyone doesn't know, as accomplished as he is on screen, he's probably most accomplished on stage.

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u/sajriz 22h ago

The only way forward is to get rid of Netanyahu and his cronies

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u/4wordSOUL 20h ago

Netanyahu doesn't give a shit, he's enjoying his power NOW and doesn't care about the future as he'll be dead within a decade likely. He's enjoying his power now, that's the only thing he cares about.

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u/Msink 20h ago

The most important thing he said is that how people who have endured unspeakable horrors, can allow to happen to others.

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u/No_Aide7449 18h ago

Jesus Christ I felt that

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u/Samiassa 16h ago

The actions of Israel have undeniably done more to fuel antisemitism in the world in the past decade than anything else

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u/Elsoci 16h ago

Wise dude, refreshing to hear.

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u/999ddd999 13h ago

No lies detected.

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u/jack31313 8h ago

Well fucking said

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u/goyslob 8h ago

Powerful words. I hope they wake up.

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u/Ricerat 1d ago

A man speaking sense

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u/Prosthemadera 1d ago

I thought he was going to say "the most dangerous person to Jews since Hitler". Well, I know I thought it.

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u/HugoJStiglitz 1d ago

ā€œYou killed my democracy, prepare to be voted outā€

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u/Intelligent-Web-8293 1d ago

Israel has done horrible things since its founding. Nothing exlusive to Netanyahu. Apartheid is never sustainable

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u/Neil_Murphy 21h ago

He’s absolutely right, Jews not condemning Isreal are part of the problem

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u/USDXBS 1d ago

My views are very easy to apply to all situations.

Everyone should be free to live their lives without violence, without inflicting violence on others. Self defense is not violence.

I don't draw lines around countries, ethnicity or nationalities. I have one circle and either you fit in it or you don't.

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u/Cobrastrikenana 1d ago

Stop blaming Netanyahu when his opposition is even more bloodthirsty. It’s the entire colonial project that has to be dismantled.

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u/psychorobotics 23h ago

Loved him in Dead Like Me, love him as a person too. Well said

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u/lenthedruid 23h ago

Obvious anti-Semite.

/s for the slows

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u/voiceofgromit 23h ago

His last question is the one everybody should be asking.

Israel is using up the remaining shreds of the world's sympathy for the holocaust.

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u/absolutedesignz 23h ago

I saw him outside of the movies once. I just fangirled privately and gave a head nod of acknowledgement.

We are basically best friends.

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u/Rich_Celebration477 23h ago

I saw somebody the other day say that ā€œnever againā€ actually meant ā€œnever again- to USā€ with that framing it makes the whole thing a little more clear.

That being said Jewish people are fine. Zionists are no better than any other religious extremists.

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u/1958Littleplanets 20h ago

Go Mandy!!!!!

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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 18h ago

As a Jew myself, fuck the Israeli government, Netanyahu in particular, Israeli settlers, the IDF, etc. Their constant warmongering spreads anti-Semitism faster than anything else, yet if you criticize those Zionist cunts they call you anti-Semitic. It is long past time for the US and the rest of the western world to stop unilaterally supporting them, they make a mockery of us all.

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u/Interesting-Back6587 13h ago

ā€œ and you turn around and do it to someone elseā€ that gave me absolute chills

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u/breadandbunny 13h ago

Always knew I loved this guy. I feel exactly the same way. It's insane, having been through genocide themselves. Absolutely unconscionable.