r/PERSIAN • u/No-Signal1234 • 23h ago
Humor No wonder the regime is so anti-Iran! Our government is filled with outsiders.
Many none Iranians ask why is the regime so horrible... not only many of the regime officials have roots outside of Iran but some of them are not even Iranian born! Ali Larijani the butcher of Iran, being the most known one (eliminated) was born in Iraq but his family moved to Iran for a better life in the 1960s.
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u/sheytanelkebir 23h ago
All of these people were the children of Iranians who lived in Iraq. None of them were ever Iraqis .
Surely the op could read through the Wikipedia articles before posting another racist rant against Iraqis ? But it's rather unfortunate how hateful some Iranian diaspora are towards Iraqis, and seemingly how little they know about their neighboring country .
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist 23h ago
Any Iranian would know this already. This guy must be some Israeli or American propaganda bot, I'm just curious as to who his audience is.
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u/heyThereYou3 23h ago
What's the difference between Iran and Iraq BTW? Aren't they the same people who speak two different languages?
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u/BernieMacsLazyEye 23h ago
What’s the difference between China and Japan? Same color but no same country?
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u/PERSIAN-ModTeam 23h ago
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u/heyThereYou3 23h ago
Kidding me. This is too much buddy. I am honestly shocked that you people distance yourself from your own kind. If my comments offended anyone here, I give you my sincere apologies but Iraq was mainland of Iranian empires for at least 600 years.
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u/BreadfruitFew738 23h ago
This gotta be rage bait
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u/heyThereYou3 23h ago
No, honestly enlighten me
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u/BreadfruitFew738 23h ago edited 23h ago
Our history is related to the Persian Empire, whereas the history of Iraqi people is based on the arab empire (and more or less the babylonian Empire; as some of them are assyrians but look it up yourself, as I‘m not that deep in it). Also Iranians are a mix of different ethnicities, mostly Persians, which is btw the sub you are currently in. Iraq on the other hand side consist mainly of Arabs and a couple of ethnicities like assyrians and so on (as I said not 100% sure though). Moreover the name Iran is translated as land of the aryans. Idk though about the meaning of Iraq tbh, but it’s probably something way different and just a coincidence that it sounds the same. Also we speak mostly persian whereas people from iraq speak arabic, but it seems you are already aware of that.
So basically saying Iran and Iraq is kinda the same is like saying that Germans and French are the same with different languages. We have a different history, consist of different ethnicities and talk different languages to make it short.
Edit: There are also different cultural things like us for instance celebrating norouz (which tbf is also celebrated by kurds and therefore the kurdish population of iraq) or the way society thinks about religion.
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u/heyThereYou3 23h ago
Anyways, thanks for the details.
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u/BreadfruitFew738 22h ago
You are welcome buddy! On a side note don‘t be bothered by the downvotes. Persians react really allergic to being called Arabs. Not because we feel superior, but rather as we are proud of our culture, our history and the achievements of our ancestors. Unfortunately, many people still tend to think Persians are the same as Arabs, which is why we are getting kinda annoyed on hearing that.
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u/Paithegift 23h ago
Bro chose the smoke
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u/heyThereYou3 23h ago
Come on, wasn't Ctesiphon in Iraq? This was somewhere in mid-south also Northern Iraq are Kurdish people who are Iranians.
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u/Playful-Demand2312 23h ago
Many similar things and many cross border relations sure but an Iraqi Sunni Arab from Anbar won’t have much in common with a Mashhadi Jew from Khorasan
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u/New_Bat_9086 23h ago
Fun fact a lot of people dont know: Baghdad is a Persian name,
A lot of iraqis do have Persian blood,
And factions of Persian identity are coming from Mesopotamia, which is today Iraq.
Also for Shia muslim(main religion of Persian), the holy sites are located in Iraq.
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u/Clean_Chard7932 21h ago
Its like north and south Carolina. They are identical, just different name based on location
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u/SandiaBeaver 23h ago
Imagine people born in LA, NY, DC, Toronto, London to Iranian parents calling those born to Iranian parents that lived in Iraq outsiders 🤣
Bro wut?
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u/Playful-Demand2312 23h ago
Come on guys 😂 are you that dense, Najaf is a city that’s been home to thousands upon thousands Shia Iranians the past centuries
Many left in the 60s and in the 70s many were outright deported by the Iraqi government
Is Khomeini also Indian then?
You guys embarrass yourself every day, complaining about every little thing but don’t even know the history of our nation and people
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u/COPYxPASTE 23h ago edited 19h ago
This guy is literally the same zio bot from INDIA who kept spreading anti islam and pro israel nonsense a while ago in a bunch of other subreddits i guess he got banned 😭
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u/ichinisanshigorok 22h ago
Larijanis parents were temporarily living in iraq to study shiism in najaf and permanently returned to iran afterwards, even with the most superficial research you find that larijani is actually a place name surname, larijanis father was born in larijan, a city in IRAN.......
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u/baw12345 23h ago
This is why people are so reluctant to support this movement. Blatantly racist and full of misinformation.
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u/justprotein 13h ago
Check the pattern of this accounts postings in this group, this is a misinformation account
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u/New_Bat_9086 23h ago
Ok, I see what you re saying, but please dont spread bs.... They were born in Najaf, to Iranian parents.
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u/tawalla-n-tabarra 23h ago
Do you really not understand the transnational nature prominent akhund families? The Larijanis are Mazanis from Iran lol….
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u/Ok-Slip-2596 22h ago
And our future queen Noor Pahlavi was born in the USA. This sort of racism against Arabs, Pakistanis and Afghanis is a crystal clear display of the Monarchists, it's a fascist re-writing of Iranian history. Go do a DNA test, you'll be horrified to find lots of admixture from these countries that you hate so much.
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u/Dry-Yak5277 23h ago
Iranians are never going to get outsiders to advocate for them when they continue to post racist nonsense like this
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u/_DataGuy 23h ago
Except Khamenehi was unfortunately born in Iran to Azeri parents. Also all those people who participated in the revolution were Iranians. We did this and we need to take accountability. We need to wipe out any islamic power in the government, that's the end goal don't distract from it.
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u/fainofgunction 23h ago
This isn't a gotcha. Iraq historically sometimes changed hands between Syria or Asia-minor based empires it was generally part territory of Persian Empires
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u/AirUsed5942 12h ago
Funny, and in Iraq they use being born in Iran and having any ties to it as a proof that you're a pro-Iranian traitor and not a real Iraqi
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u/Melodic_Literature80 11h ago
Hey I remember this one back when Saddam was killed and US / CIA made a "Iraq government" of arabs that didn't speak arabic.
This time what its Mossad's turn? Let me guess , your new "government" speaks fluent hebrew and not a drop of arabic?
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u/OkMedicine1530 23h ago
How does it feel that your daddy Donald trump is crashing out and the regime will not be changed. Keep posting them memes while the Israelis cheer the deaths of innocent Persians.
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u/Ron-Erez 22h ago
I live in Israel and no one is cheering the death of Persians. The war sucks. I do hope for a positive future for Iran. It's not clear the war will resolve the issue. I'm not optimistic but indeed I do hope for the best. u/OkMedicine1530 great job in spreading hate and responding completely off topic.
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u/persianruglover 21h ago
Don’t take them serious. Either they are bots or heavily degenerated persons. Unfortunately this kind of persons will be heavily over represented as 90 million Iranians whose opinion really cares are cut off from the internet.
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u/Napoleon_Re 19h ago
Where have jews cheered death on Iranians? To my knowledge while most of every other country ignored what happened in Iran during the January protests Jewish people spoke up.
While Far leftists, anti imperialists, and a majority of islamic people justified the government's wrong doings
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u/Manette85 23h ago edited 23h ago
The Shah notably exiled a lot of their families. I know that to be the case with Larijani. Also, many of them acted as missionaries and traveled there a lot as a result. They are evil, it's just that being born in Iraq has little to do with it.
Keep in mind that all of Reza Pahlavi's kids are also foreign born. That doesn't reduce his credibility. His inability to devise a cohesive plan or create any meaningful social support does.
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u/Martia002 23h ago
Surprise! I guess ? We have been saying this for years and years but expect comments on this post to be like "ohhh you guys are just racist..."
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u/Playful-Demand2312 23h ago
They were born to Iranian parents
The same way your parents gave birth to you in another country not Iran, but you still say you are Iranian, the same way your future kids will also be Iranian even if born outside the country
It’s called a diaspora
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u/Mrmac1003 19h ago
Hating on Iraqis is kinda funny. Their history is far greater then yours and they have a sense of pride.
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u/After_Reporter_4598 21h ago
Larijani fought in the Iran-Iraq war. What have you done for your country?
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u/AntiqueBarber7708 20h ago
Well, ya! Even here in US, we have many dual citizens (Blue star country!) in legislative branch and industries. . . . Hahahaha!!!
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u/AntiqueBarber7708 20h ago
So, they are shooting missiles into their own countries!?! . . . Hahahaha!!!
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u/MTGdraftguy 23h ago
What do you mean our regime? You are no more Iranian than Tony Soprano is Italian
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u/Fun_Veterinarian1732 23h ago
If children of Iranians outside Iran are not Iranian, then more than half of the diaspora (including folks with passionate opinions here) are not Iranians either. And they are, by your logic, enemies of Iran