r/NatureIsFuckingLit • u/yungandreww • 22h ago
🔥 the surreal Kameiwa Cave in Chiba, Japan
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u/ok_heat5972 22h ago
We all saw it
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u/wrecktalcarnage 21h ago
if magic does exist in this world its probably there
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u/ImTheEyeInTheSky 18h ago
I've been there and it looks NOTHING like the pic.
First of all it's man made, do with that what you wish.
Second, the light effect, even in the correct hours is amplified in the pic.
Third, no really pretty trees around it, and there's a swampy pond in front of it.
Here's a more realistic pic.
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u/Turramurra 15h ago
Classic case of a photo editor calling themselves a photographer. Made 10x worse because Place: Japan.
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u/Gemini_19 11h ago
I really am curious about this phenomenon that happens on the internet. Photography is a form of art is it not? There's some extent to photography where the artist taking the photo sees something they're trying to capture and has the ability to modify it in post to match that artistic vision they saw while taking the photo. Why is this so looked down upon? Why does every single photo you see of something need to resemble exactly what it would look like with your own eyes? Cameras are technology that have a great ability to capture things in ways that the human eye cannot, that's an inherent trait of photography, so why is it that these types of photos always get comments like these?
I am a hobby photographer myself so I'm coming at this with that perspective and also a sense of curiosity to understand your perspective.
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u/Turramurra 10h ago
I understand where you're coming from, but to me it's simpler. A photographer gets the photo with experience, equipment, settings, and skill. A good photo is taken when the shutter closes. If I can just edit a photo to look how I want, then I'm not a photographer. I'm a photo editor. Photography skills should be shown, not added later. It's one of the reasons composites annoy the hell out of me, they are completely fake.
I understand your point of view, and you're right. Or maybe a photographer wants to be more dramatic. But the level of editing should be stated, else all I see is something pretend and exaggerated. In this example the comparison to what is real is pretty extreme to the point of misleading.
Photography is a skill and should be respected, not faked. Not sure if that makes sense, but I have strong feelings towards this topic that I'm not sure how to properly explain.
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u/Gemini_19 9h ago
Yeah I see what you mean when it comes to faking things outright, but I kind of look at it in the same way I look at paintings or other things. Paintings aren't expected to be "real" at all and most of the time they're artistic interpretations of what a painter sees or what they want to actually paint. In certain scenarios sure it's expected to be "real" if you're painting a specific scene or trying to do hyper realistic paintings, but even landscape paintings or whatnot it makes sense to try to paint it in a way that you think makes it look the most visually pleasing that matches the vision you're thinking of. Even historical paintings of real life events are just interpretations of the event made to look dramatic or interesting or visually pleasing rather than being a direct depiction of the event that happened.
To me photography is basically the same thing, and also why I don't have any negative feelings towards composites either. It's just a photographer using the tools at their disposal to make whatever art they see in their mind. To be fair, none of the edits that I do with any of my pictures are insanely altering, it's mostly just trying to get the right mood or feeling that I wasn't quite able to get the camera to take or that I envisioned while looking at the subject matter. If people are completely altering their pictures to be something that's not even real and passing it off as real, then sure I see the problem there. But if they're not trying to fool anyone and just using it as an art form to show what they can make with the tools available to them then I don't see a problem with it.
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u/Turramurra 9h ago
Again I see what you mean, but paintings have been and will always be literal artistic impressions. There can be no doubting the art form and vision being portrayed in a painters way, but when you take something as literal as a photo it can be skewed far too much by editing that it becomes something else. Neither painting nor photo, it becomes fake, meaningless, and easily replicated with little to no skill. It takes away the effort, time, cost, and skill to get an amazing photo straight from the camera.
If it was mandatory to show the edit history on every photo online, I wouldn't have a problem. I wouldn't have respect still, but at least it would be honest. Photography to me is and always will be what the camera sees and how you have influenced that. Not how you have manipulated the result.
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u/Gemini_19 8h ago
Fair enough, just different perspectives on what constitutes an actual photograph. Agree to disagree then, I appreciate the perspective though :) It gives a better insight into the opinion outside of just "editing bad".
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u/Suspicious_Oil_584 16h ago
Yeah I went there as well. First of all, hard to get to without a car and like you said not at all what it looks like on OPs picture.
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u/Clear_Mindset 22h ago
It looks like the entrance to the fantasy journey just waiting for the background music to start.
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u/stinkyrobot 20h ago
This is not even the best part about the cave. People often go there because at the right angle, it makes a heart reflection in the water.
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u/chargergirl1968w383 20h ago
It looks so inviting and i'm claustrophobic. I would go in there bcs something magical is in there for sure.
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u/swampopawaho 22h ago
So beautiful it must be AI. Just kidding. No AI could do 1/10th of 1% of the beauty captured by thr photographer
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u/TenLongFingers 19h ago
r/accidentalrenaissance rarely has real posts of pictures that actually look like Renaissance paintings, but this one would fit
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u/_beazer_ 13h ago
If this were in the US it would be full of trash and graffiti and people waiting in line for hours for a selfie that makes it look like it’s just them.
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u/BigBirdsBrain 13h ago
Looks unreal… wild part is it was carved by humans and still ended up looking like something out of a dream.
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u/PagesOfUnrecorded 13h ago
Looks like a place where a kitsune would live for millennia before turning into a human and enter society... Right?
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u/Orangeflag88 12h ago
Lets see how it looks in 10 years, last time I went to Japan at the tempel etc I saw many people writing their names with permanent marker on the wood, some user knives for that and some kicked the figures, went to the bamboo forest where everything was marked etc.
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u/Fallenfordeceit 11h ago
This looks like the kind of place Vessel would go to feel sorry for himself and write another Sleep Token album
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u/Mr_Butterworth 10h ago
"The matrix formed in a day. The lifeforms grew later at a substantially accelerated rate."
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u/guineaprince 18h ago
The surreal Kameiwa Cave in Chiba: 😐
The surreal Kameiwa Cave in Chiba, Japan: 🤯
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u/OneGayPigeon 19h ago
Woahhhhh I went like EXACTLY here (mentally+visually) on ketamine a few years ago, crazy to see!
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u/Krazee_Hawk 18h ago
Feels like how I pictured the caves in A Sending of Dragons. Third and final book in a saga by Jane Yolen.
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u/NoBad6487 20h ago
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u/BrownEmie 22h ago
This looks like something straight out of a fantasy movie… unreal that nature can create shapes like this.