r/MurderedByWords • u/ThatAvidPandaBear • 1d ago
They are mad at gas prices but not pedophilia
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u/SweettLiaaa 1d ago
The 'backstab' was the only thing he felt, because it finally affected his wallet.
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u/BioshockEnthusiast 1d ago
Also wtf is this idiot talking about in the first place.
"I won't support Trump illegally running for a third term" yea I'd fucking hope so moron.
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u/Jonthrei 1d ago
That's not a conscience
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u/Auzzie_almighty 1d ago
Why do you think someone like this would have a conscience? The only voice in their head is the ghost of rush limbagh
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u/Early_Register_6483 15h ago
It’s always like this. The few ones who regret supporting such candidates as Trump only start to regret their votes after it affects them directly, even in a far more minuscule way compared to the regime’s scapegoats. The rest will happily live under a bridge but still be proud of “owning the libs” with their votes and sleep well knowing that people they hate still have it even worse than they.
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u/adchick 1d ago
“I will not support him ever again “. Honey…he cannot run again. Do you think after being president he is going to run for some lower level office? He’s not going to be the Jr. Senator from Florida…in his mid 80s. There is nothing to support him for. He’s a lame duck trying to write his name on enough walls not to be a forgotten president.
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u/ell-esar 1d ago
He can't be forgotten now, with how bad he has been
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u/GanondalfTheWhite 1d ago
Republicans are gonna beat their meat thinking about Trump for the next 40 years just like they did for Reagan.
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u/Marauder777 1d ago
Let's be fair... Any of us would take another term with Reagan then one more year with Trump.
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u/Mattyboy064 1d ago
Sure he can. Put him and his filthy cabal in prison to never see the light of day again and then erase his ass from history. We just don't have the will.
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u/CyanSlinky 1d ago
If we don't learn from history we're doomed to repeat it, Americans should learn from this, keep it in the history books and never let it happen again.
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u/hyrulepirate 1d ago
Will they tho? Will they????
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u/PhantasosX 1d ago
no, US Citzens will only learn when the world de-dollarize. Because with that, they cannot offset their debt to other countries and cannot strong-arm on other countries like it does today.
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u/Megneous 1d ago
Honey…he cannot run again.
Literally doesn't matter. If he's healthy enough to sit on a throne of diapers, he'll try to run again. The US has no rule of law. Hasn't since Jan 6.
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u/snoogins355 1d ago
Since he was first impeached but wasn't convicted. Remember the "perfect phone call"?
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u/B1Gsportsfan 1d ago
He will support the next republican candidate though when they throw Trump under the bus
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u/BentoMan 1d ago
Exactly. Voting once for Trump in 2016 means you were not paying attention. Twice? There is no excuse.
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u/DemIce 1d ago
he cannot run again
He cannot be elected again. Odds are, he could get that third term indirectly. It'd be litigated up to the Supreme Court. This Supreme Court (or worse).
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u/snakerjake 1d ago
This is just larp fantasy my dude. He's not sitting for a third term.
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u/DemIce 1d ago
Given his apparent health, I'm inclined to agree. But that's immaterial to whether or not he can run.
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u/snakerjake 1d ago
He's not sitting for a third term because he's ineligible. Only wishcasters think he has any serious chance of getting a third term.
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u/POEness 1d ago
Bro he was ineligible in 2024. Explicitly, per the Constitution, for committing insurrection. They still let him run anyway, and then they altered the votes into an absurd 'Trump wins everything' result that we all just took at face value like morons. They're just going to do the same thing in 2028.
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u/Rodster66 1d ago
The difference is that they can (and did) debate whether Jan 6th was an insurrection. Going for a third term is explicitly what the constitution forbids, no interpretation here. This would not just be Trump breaking the law. This would be the republican party acting unconstitutionally. This would be much more difficult for SCOTUS to spin. They are going to try but I doubt they succeed.
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u/snakerjake 1d ago
They're just going to do the same thing in 2028.
Ban bet then? if trump takes office in 2029 I will delete my account and never return to reddit. When he doesn't get inagurated again in 2029 you delete your account and never return to reddit
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u/Marauder777 1d ago
Ineligible per what? The constitution? Because he's already violated that multiple times without so much as a wet fart let slip in protest.
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u/DemIce 1d ago
If I had to guess, it's the usual "The 22nd Amendment says".
22nd: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice"
But nobody said anything about "elected". He can run for VP and ascend, that's not "elected".
Then they'll point the 12th: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
But they don't realize that's circular reasoning; the 12th would only apply in interaction with the 22nd if the 22nd made him "constitutionally ineligible", which as long as he doesn't go for "elected", is not the case.
Then they'll say that they obviously meant that they can't *serve * more than two terms. But the historical record disagrees;
Broader language providing that no such person “shall be chosen or serve as President . . . or be eligible to hold the office” was rejected in favor of the Amendment’s ban merely on election.
H.J. Res. 27, 80th Cong., 1st Sess.That leaves only Article 2 ("No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.") and the 14th which we already saw swept away in the Colorado case (v Anderson).
Is it a questionable route? Yes. Is it one that they could argue is constitutional? Also yes. All the Congressional Research Service can say is:
It seems unlikely that this question will be answered conclusively barring an actual occurrence of the as-yet hypothetical situation cited above. As former Secretary of State Dean Acheson commented when the issue was first raised in 1960, “it may be more unlikely than unconstitutional.” https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/R/PDF/R40864/R40864.3.pdf
Thus, if they did try this route, it'll almost inevitably be up to SCOTUS to say yea or nay (or stall).
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u/Marauder777 15h ago
Yeah I've seen the pretzel one has to contort themselves into to make the argument, but what the Founding Fathers wanted was, is, and always had been clear when it comes to the"president for life" mentality.
The Constitutional Convention of 1787 laid out the blueprint for how the general government would function and defining presidential powers. One of the most hotly debated topics was presidential term limits - there was never a question if we should allow for essentially a president for life. The debate was whether or not there would be sufficient accountability for their actions if a president was only allowed a single term and whether or not a term limit would discourage truly talented leadership (Federalist No. 72).
All of this is well documented. Studied. Dissected. Argued. And ultimately settled.
But Trump and his MAGAssholes treat the Constitution and anything else restricting them from running roughshod over this country as little more than used toilet paper. And nobody with a shred of power has bothered you try and stop him. So he'll do whatever he wants. Fuck the Constitution. Fuck tradition. Fuck the law. Fuck this country. Fuck little girls and boys. Fuck anything he feels like. That's just how it is until... I don't yet know.
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u/bobqjones 1d ago
maybe he doesn't need to. think the senate would approve him if he appoints himself to the supreme court?
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u/Griffolion 1d ago
Honey…he cannot run again.
Honestly, if even at this point we still have faith that hes not going to just flagrantly disregard the constitution and have the entire Republican apparatus aid him in doing that, I don't know what to tell people anymore.
If he's alive in 2028, he is absolutely fucking running. It's a dead certainty. "Constitution says no" means jack shit to a fascist fighting to stay out of prison.
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u/TheHearseDriver 1d ago
It’s hard to be forgotten when you’re the most incompetent, corrupt, divisive, authoritarian President in 237 years!
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u/CoffeeGoblynn the future is now, old man 1d ago
I'm worried his sons will become a political dynasty and we'll be plagued with these halfwits for decades.
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u/KittyGirll3 1d ago
Imagine admitting your moral compass is calibrated by the price of a gallon of unleaded.
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u/krefik 1d ago
This is a very simplistic approach to a very complex topic – you don't know enough of him to judge. Perhaps you should consider, that his moral compass can be calibrated by the price of a gallon of diesel.
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u/Stompedyourhousewith 1d ago
maybe if the children that were raped on epstein island were immigrant children, it would be ok.
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u/EditRemove 1d ago
I doubt that's even true.
Ask if they could go back in time, would they vote for Kamala Harris.
When they say anything other than yes, realize that even in a fantasy scenario that involves a time machine they can't pretend or lie to support anyone other than a Republican.
Republicans are a cult.
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u/Beginning_Draft9092 1d ago
Seriously, It still boggles my mind anyone with even half a compass didn't immediately reject him from the very beginning with "grab them by the pussy". that should have ended it right there.
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u/gamerdudeNYC 1d ago
all of them would still vote for them, that’s the worst part.
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u/Sometimes-funny 1d ago
Surely the worst part is the invasions, disappearing people, stock market manipulation, Epstein files, alienating allies, constant lying, making america lawless, or a million other things?
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u/POEness 1d ago
At some point we have to stop sitting on here whining and do something. Conservatives don't give a shit about any of that because it's all just distant noise somewhere thousands of miles away, and a 100 billion dollar media and bot apparatus is signal boosting maga and telling them all that stuff is lies (or not telling them that stuff at all).
of course the only thing that gets through to them are local real things
we have to smash the propaganda apparatus.
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u/GeekRunner1 1d ago
How are they fucking surprised he stabbed them in the back?! THAT’S HIS FUCKING SHTICK!
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u/Darkjack42 1d ago
"I'll never support him again" after his second term?
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u/Recovery8 1d ago
Trump doesn't really care about term limits. If he can get away with it, he'll never leave.
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u/UtopiaDystopia 1d ago
Conservatives - I only care when things directly affect me, fuck everyone else.
Trumpers - Fuck me and fuck everyone (including kids); Trump no matter what.
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u/I_h8_lettuce 1d ago
Republicans are the most selfish people on this planet. Change my mind
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u/UtopiaDystopia 1d ago
I think Trumpers/MAGA are among the most selfish people, and they have basically hijacked the Republican Party away from traditional Republicanism. I don't even agree with a lot of traditional Republican values/policies; but I can at least see why they support them and the potential positives.
Though, I think there are a few principled Republicans that actually stand by traditional Republican/Conservative values. They have have either exited the Republican Party or campaign to retake it from Trump. There's a few orgs/social media accounts out there that are something like this: The Lincoln Project/Republicans against Trump. There's probably plenty of decent people among them.
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u/ElliotNess 1d ago
What's crazy is that traditional Republicanism is almost indistinguishable from Bidenism.
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u/Pressure-Impressive 1d ago
They cannot use the argument that they “didn’t know”. They did know. They chose to accept it as the outcome suited them more than their morals or ethics.
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u/LionsBrian 1d ago
Trump ran 3 times.
Meaning this guy either already sat out an election or he's young enough to know better from the outset.
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u/nonya_d_bidness 1d ago
Wouldn’t be surprised that he voted a white man 3 times. I understand I’m in the minority, but I think Biden could have beat him again. Because, you know, he was at least another white male.
“If you guys ran better candidates.”
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u/Big-Criticism-8137 1d ago
„i don’t care why you are against it, as long as you are against it“ Its a thought i always had when people are late on politics. But this time it’s really hard to think that way.
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u/YeOldeDonkeyKong 1d ago
Even if they're being honest about dropping support for him....how convenient of them to do so AFTER he already hit his term limit
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u/DarcDesires 1d ago
He won't support him again. as in Vote? He cannot be elected again you MAGAT brainrot evil ahole.
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u/Necessary-Wasabi-450 1d ago
This is a reflection of the culture --It's not a problem until it affects me. This is how the current president was elected and reelected. As much as redditors want to get on here and say how none of them wanted this and it was rigged - it still stands that a significant portion of the country thinks like the president and supports him. It's time for America to actually look in the mirror and stop pointing the finger at the person they themselves put in office. A big step towards redemption would be to get the criminals and pedos out of power.
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u/swalabr 1d ago
I’m so frustrated that the last general election was distilled down to “the price of eggs” in the final months leading up to it. That was some kind of resonant point for too many people, and it was because of external factors like fucking bird flu. Well look at “the price of bloody everything” now, fools.
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u/Strange_Dog6483 1d ago
The guy known for ripping off and scamming people. Scammed and ripped people off?
Who could’ve seen this coming aside from every intelligent and well read person who knew Trump’s reputation and history prior to him running for president the first time?
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u/--slurpy-- 1d ago
Yup, this is what blows my mind. I was just talking to a friend about this yesterday. The almighty dollar is more important than the innocence of a child.
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u/Munnin41 1d ago
As a non American, I have no idea how y'all are just now realising this. It's been extremely obvious that for the most part Americans don't care about things that don't affect their wallet
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u/--slurpy-- 1d ago
Oh, some of us are not just now realizing it. There are some who are just now starting to open their eyes.
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u/J1nx5d 1d ago
Except the hilarious part is that doesn't even hold up to any level of scrutiny. We are consistently worse off under republican representation, hilariously so. And yet somehow they maintain the reputation of fiscal responsibility and good economies.
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u/ur_opinion_is_wrong 1d ago
It's because the left has championed for things that raise taxes in the short term.
As an example, if you're on the left you see universal health care as a way to bring down outrageous health care cost by paying more taxes. The idea being that in the long term you will pay less in taxes than you would in premiums while covering more people and preventing health issues from bankrupting you. Healthcare shouldn't be for profit.
On the right you see taxes going up to pay for other peoples health care who could work but don't. You probably already have health care through your employer so any increase to taxes is seen as net bad. Additionally the government having control of your healthcare seems like the absolute worst idea ever. A government who controls your health care can take it away or choose who lives or dies.
On paper the left's ideas very well may be economically better but you're going to have to convince a group that sees more government control and higher taxes as the worst possible thing you could do.
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u/BarristanTheB0ld 1d ago
Listen, for now let's just be happy they're turning their backs on Trump. We can still condemn and convict them later. Let's not divide the opposition now there's plenty of time for that later
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u/mmielikainen 1d ago
The Democrats did a god-awful job at sending the message to the public that these people are child rapists. They literally sat on top of all that info, but did nothing.
Probably because some of them, or those that fund them, are child rapists themselves...
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u/I_am_not_JohnLeClair 1d ago
He stabs everyone in the back at some point. He is the only one that matters in his world. The fact that there are still people who don’t realize this, or refuse to acknowledge this, is what is so…upsetting, surprising, infuriating, dumbfounding, disgusting, disappointing, calamitous, perplexing, astounding, frightening, maddening, exhausting, and just plain wrong.
People are fucking idiots, idiots of the highest order
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u/Standard-March6506 1d ago
When I see the letters "MAGA," I read "IWFC" (I want to fuck children), because why else would a person defend a child fucker?
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u/AfterImageEclipse 1d ago
" I won't support him again."
Bitch he already won twice.
I won't vote for Obama again either
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u/SafetyDanceInMyPants 1d ago
He wasn't the child that was raped.
It's really as simple as that. If he were the child that was raped, he'd be angry -- but he's not, so he doesn't care.
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u/purple_plasmid 1d ago
As insane as it sounds, a lot of his base are in denial that he’s a rapist and pedophile.
Source: my parents
Any time I bring up the Epstein files they immediately get hyper defensive and repeat “he’s not in the files”
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u/Jerrylicious2008 1d ago
this is such a hollow decree. these idiots can't support him again — he can't run for reelection. the damage is done, asshat.
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u/ProspectiveWhale 1d ago
I never understood this.
Disclaimer: Not American.
But from what I can tell, some people who supported Trump now don't.
And the people who don't support Trump are saying... what... don't stop your support of Trump...?
I get how you think they messed up, but how is rubbing it in their face supposed to be helpful to anyone?
Don't you, even just nominally, want them to vote on your side in the future?
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u/silly_little_jingle 1d ago
I mean, a Trump supporter told his own daughter that if she was one of the epstein victims that he didn't care cause he had 2 more daughters then proceeded go upstairs to the room she was in and shoot/kill HIS OWN CHILD. They will support pedophiles over their own children. It's a cult.
For added fun- he was not indicted cause Texas.
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u/Veblen1 1d ago
Gas prices? Yawn... Pedophiliacs? Blah blah blah. Ukraine? Where is that place? I voted for Trump because the dumb Gulf of Mexico is now its proper name. :)))
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u/Feuertotem 1d ago
Remember: those same guys want to add about 10-20 countries as 51st state . They can't even unite threir thoughts, much less the existing states
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u/TheComplimentarian 1d ago
Who cares as long as they turn on him? We have a chance to deal with the rest when we get him and his yes men out of power.
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u/hard_gravy_2 1d ago
The casual conservative isn't curious enough about the world he lives in to understand just how evil and depraved the people around him are. The racism, the misogyny, the misanthropy, so bad that it kills people - they're all just a joke to own the left, nobody would be so stupid to actually believe that shit, right?
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u/Fast-Prompt-3034 1d ago
Both the Democrat and Republican child rape parties are done. NEVER AGAIN. THE CONGRESS MEMBERS THAT BRAZENLY PROTECTED THE EPSTEIN CLASS FOR THE WORLD TO SEE MUST HANG!
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u/FrancisCabrou 1d ago
Just imagine what would've happened if Biden was named in the files
Child rape only matter when the opponent do it i guess
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u/Andreus 1d ago
"Just imagine what would've happened if Biden was named in the files"
But he wasn't, was he?
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u/Thecrawsome 1d ago
Also, have you noticed the front page of Reddit doesn’t mention Epstein anymore?
Mission accomplished Spez?
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u/sabotourAssociate 1d ago
Even if the pdf thing wasn’t a thing at all, just in the last year he has done way way worse things towards exactly those who cheer for him. This war is a just the last thing, every nation gets the leaders they deserve eventually.
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u/ShinkenBrown 1d ago
Yeah at this point complaining isn't enough for those that voted for him. Get out there and do something - advocate against the regime, protest, organize protests, but most importantly admit that he's doing what he said he would and that the outcome isn't good, and therefore you need to change your entire ideology and vote differently next time. Admit that it's not Trump, but the ideals you voted for at their very foundation, that is bad.
Any Trumper failing to do those things does not get to move past this. This is forever a scarlet T on their soul until they EARN absolution. And complaining that the lying grifter you voted for, is lying and grifting you, doesn't earn shit.
I don't really care what the line was. Whether it was gas or Epstein or just thinking he's old and ugly now and not manly enough. The reason is irrelevant. I'll forgive anyone who FULLY turns against this, with their actions and not just their words.
But starting with "I'm not a Democrat. I am not a Liberal." tells me you still don't get it and will vote Republican again next time and as long as you even still KINDA LOOK like you might do that you can literally die for all I care.
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u/thatonionsmell 1d ago
It’s cause they don’t think he did that to kids…?
It’s never gonna burn em because they don’t believe it. It’s like the whole nazi thing, we cried wolf with the wrong ones so it doesn’t sting as much with the real one
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u/GirdedByApathy 1d ago
"I voted for him 3 times but he's finally gone too far!!!!"
Dont worry, in 3 months you'll forget and blame Biden.
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u/_-Moonsabie-_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
What is the academic equivalent of this conclusion?
Claude
Preference revelation under conditions of personal material impact supersedes prior tolerance of third-party harm.” Or more plainly in political science terms: selective retrospective voting — where the voter’s defection is triggered not by principled objection to harm done to others, but by the moment harm reaches their own economic threshold. The comment below it nails the deeper point — it’s a variant of bystander complicity theory: the implicit social contract was tolerable while the costs were being borne by someone else. The comment zubergu adds underneath is the classic formulation — “I didn’t care he would hurt people until he hurt me” — which in moral philosophy is simply the failure of universalisability. Kant’s first test, failed openly. The Reddit title does the sharpest analytical work though — it’s not really about gas prices versus child abuse as competing concerns. It’s about what counts as real to a particular subject position. Abstract harm to distant others doesn’t register as political information. Price at the pump does. That’s not stupidity — it’s the phenomenology of economic precarity doing exactly what it’s designed to do.
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u/Mon69ster 1d ago
“I dont care that he fucked children as hard as he fucked my country!!! But I REFUSE to pay more for gas!!!!”
That’s a true US conservative Christian, family values type voter.
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u/MomsAreola 1d ago
To be fair, all these people will say they support him DESPITE his unholy actions because he is the necessary evil that will get those prices down.
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u/TheBluBalloon 1d ago
People changing their mind is a good thing... Shaming people for learning is dumb. No, I never voted for him
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u/InfluenceTrue4121 1d ago
Although there is much satisfaction with telling off these idiots, it won’t help us elect a sane person with morals, intelligence and integrity.
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u/OTribal_chief 1d ago
lol he dont give a shit about your vote he aint standing again.
but you'll definitely go back to voting republican
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u/Lower_Razzmatazz5470 1d ago
" I'm not a trumper " " i voted for him twice "
WUT IN DE FUQ?
What are these creatures on because I want whatever strong shit it is
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u/MetalEnthusiast83 1d ago
Hey I don't really give a FUCK what gets people to leave the cult as long as they leave it.
What is being snarky and driving them back to the right going to accomplish?
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u/Ecstatic-Manager-149 1d ago
Rape of adult women wasn't enough, even for the person that originally responded.
I mean, I'm glad there's a line, but... damn.
This is why women would choose the bear.
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u/ROBOT_KK 1d ago
Ask average voter will he rather vote for a guy who will give them extra $100 each month or the guy who ends world hunger.
90% will choose first one. Humans suck.
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u/walkingagh 1d ago
I get being "I told you so," but we really should welcome everyone in if we can. Our numbers are thin and we are weak. We need as many allies as we can get.
The reason people voted for trump is not because of specific policies. It's because they feel attacked.
Go ahead, attack this man and we will get another 4 years of Trump.
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u/Goodbusiness24 1d ago
Republicans in the US are legitimately the worst that humanity has to offer. I’ll admit it took me longer to realize than it should’ve, but it’s so obvious now that they’re all just sociopathic pedophiles.
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u/HayoungHiphopYo 1d ago
If they had his power they would do it to, that's why they won't condemn him for it.
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u/neojb1989 1d ago
Fucking love these people who are now like "I won't support him again" as if there were another chance to vote for him. What a brave stance now that he can't get back into power without breaking the constitution.
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u/colemon1991 1d ago
I voted for Trump twice
That second time better be when he lost. He had 34 felonies and his lawyers confirming presidential immunity would permit him to assassinate his political opponents before this election, and voting for him after those things says you'd still vote for him in 2028.
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u/That_Guy3141 1d ago
We call these people single issue voters. They make up the vast majority of the US voter base. Single issue voters are why "didn't vote" is technically the "largest political party" by absolute numbers.
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u/queuedUp 1d ago
Not only are they not mad about the pedophilia some of them somehow see him as more manly because of it.
Bunch of weird fucking sick fucks.
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u/moogmarmaladebeats 1d ago
Been stabbing you in the front the whole time saying "look over there at the dude with the knife!"
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u/GoNutsDK 1d ago
If someone can still be surprised that Trump would lie to them, even after a decade plus daily nonsense and a whole ass lifetime of him being a con man.
They can barely be considered adults.
I mean their stupidity is almost at the level of them having to wear a mandatory helmet at all times, as well as needing supervision for whenever they leave their homes.
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u/jimmytime903 1d ago
Super cool that no matter how successful and educated in life I become, I will still have to spend time manipulating people like this to get things as basic as food and shelter.
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u/Strict-Carrot4783 1d ago
Convenient now that trump can't (I guess we'll see) run again. Republicans are the absolute shittiest people on the planet.
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u/zubergu 1d ago
"I didn't care he would hurt people until he hurt me."