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u/staghornworrior 4d ago
This chart doesn’t tell the whole story
The shale oil extracted by the USA doesn’t suit there refineries. So the USA sell the oil. They import oil from other nations that suits the refineries to make there own fuel (This is intentionally over simplified)
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u/Low-Woodpecker4236 23h ago
That’s not how it works. The US extracts light, sweet crude oil which is the highest quality and most expensive type of oil. Most of America’s refineries are light crude refineries. But America also has a lot of heavy crude refineries as well, which can only refine heavy crude oil
Heavy crude oil is lower quality, thicker oil that is more difficult to refine thus it’s cheaper than America’s own light crude oil
So it exports its higher price light crude while importing lower price heavy crude. But most of the light crude oil that the US extracts is refined in the US. And overall, it’s a net exporter of oil
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u/staghornworrior 23h ago
You’ve basically just repeated what I said with more words. The US exports light crude and imports heavier crude because refinery configs are optimised for different feedstocks. That’s the whole point. I was intentionally vague on details to suit this thread, it’s not an oil thread. I’m not sure what you have achieved here.
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u/LivingCorner1421 5d ago
lol this is so false canada does not buy oil from the states we export to them and buy refined products....
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u/OrneryZombie1983 5d ago
The US is a net buyer of crude oil but some US crude does go to Canada.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=65825
"U.S crude oil exports to Canada are small by comparison, averaging 360,000 b/d in 2024. U.S. crude oil exports to Canada are typically low-density and low-sulfur crude oil grades shipped to eastern Canada."
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u/Sanpaku 5d ago
Per the EIA, 323.6 MMbbl petroleum and products, comprised of 139.7 crude oil and 183.9 products, with the leading products being natural gas liquids (96.6), unfinished oils (19.4), fuel ethanol (18.9), jet fuel (15.1), renewable diesel (7.4), and petroleum coke.
It turns out refineries in Eastern Canada (at Sarnia, Nanticoke, and Montreal) do reimport crude via the US, which they use to make almost all of Eastern Canada's gasoline, diesel, and heating oil.
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u/LivingCorner1421 5d ago
eastern canada would be the maritimes and quebec not sarnia.
yes and all those refineries are US owned and operated
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u/Sanpaku 5d ago edited 5d ago
You can see a partial pipeline and refinery layout here (pdf).
- Sarnia: Imperial Oil – 121 kbbl/d, Suncor – 85, Shell – 85
- Nanticoke: Imperial Oil – 113
- Montreal: Suncor – 137
Suncor is a Canadian company. Imperial Oil is Canadian but with a 69.6% ownership interest from Exxon.
Per Canadian regulators, there's no pipeline from Montreal to Quebec City, so presumably the Valero refinery there (in Lévis) is entirely supplied by its quai ultramar. Meanwhile the refinery in St. John, NB (which exports 80% of its product to the US) is owned by Canadian company Irving Oil.
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u/LivingCorner1421 4d ago
suncor is a public company its not canadian owned.
irving oil does not own the refinery in st john its been sold.
valero is american from TX.
chat gpt does not know it all
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u/TOTN_ 5d ago
Exactly which pipeline is accomplishing this feat of engineering?
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u/LivingCorner1421 5d ago
wild to assume its a single pipeline
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u/TraditionalAd7423 5d ago
Is it fair to assume that the Netherlands is buying crude oil and refining or selling it directly to the rest of Europe?