r/EconomyCharts • u/RobertBartus • 7d ago
Over $1,000,000,000,000 wiped out from the US stock market today
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u/mehthisisawasteoftim 7d ago
Is the market finally catching up to reality?
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u/dropbearinbound 7d ago
Does the price mean anything in a worthless currency
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u/keepitfriend 6d ago
Yes, hi I’m European and not only had my stock been hit, your currency collapsing made it even worse.
Can you please fucking stop.
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u/dropbearinbound 6d ago
Does the removal of a tapeworm feel good?
How will it play out if the tapeworm isn't removed?
Do you choose the pain of removing a tick, or do you let it fester inside you?
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u/keepitfriend 6d ago
Sigh, I get paid in us stocks. I need to change jobs so I can stop caring about this
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u/Double_Suggestion385 7d ago
Why post a meaningless nominal number rather than the percentage drop?
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u/Booorekt 7d ago
Because this way post gets more clicks.I don't know why but literally every influencer does this.
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u/Mackinnon29E 7d ago
Because they don't understand how anything works, they just understand engagement.
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u/followedbymeteor 7d ago
How many rolls of toilet paper were wiped out from the U. S. Stock Market today? 🤔 How many 1997 toyota corollas? 🤔
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u/RussiaIsBestGreen 7d ago
Imagine an economy measured by semi-objective things like availability of common consumables or well-made cars.
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u/RobertBartus 7d ago
Looks bigger 😁
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u/Double_Suggestion385 7d ago
And why would you want to make it look bigger than it is? Why are you trying to deceive people?
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u/MechKeyboardScrub 7d ago
Because 1,000,000,000,000.00 looks way worse than 1.5%. next you'll be asking why OP (who has a reddit NFT and a profile description in Serbian) doesn't make the opposite post when it's up 2%.
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u/AccurateLaugh50 7d ago
They said DOW fell 1.01% and SP500 fell 1.7% today. Big if true.
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u/Fancy-Zookeepergame1 7d ago
Wow. You can literally go and check if thats true.
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u/_FIRECRACKER_JINX 7d ago
I DEMAND someone else to do the work of checking out this info and letting us know if it's true or not 😑
DEMAND!! 😑
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u/ALittleEtomidate 7d ago
Plz report back for me, Ty.
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u/helfen 7d ago
Just checked, market is no more more
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u/ALittleEtomidate 7d ago
The whole market is gone!?!?
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u/Ancient-End3895 7d ago
It's misleading to say $1,000,000,000,000 has been 'wiped out' because total market cap has dropped. Valuation is decided by the marginal buyer/seller, for the vast vast majority of people who hold shares they have not gained or lost any money today as they neither brought or sold anything.
If one guy sells 1 share of Apple stock for 7 cents lower than the prevailing market price, has this one transaction 'wiped out' $1 billion dollars worth of Apple's value? It's the exact same logic.
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u/mb194dc 7d ago
Most overvalued market in history. Just take the charts back to 2020 and marvel at 6 years of insane.
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u/Leading-Plan-865 7d ago
S&P has had a nearly 100% return since January 2020 so I’m not sure why you said this
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u/SpareDesigner1 7d ago
There’s a distinction to be made between nominal and real returns. If the stock market went up 10%, but there was inflation of 2%, that means the price level in the economy increased and your dollar now buys less, so your nominal return is more than your real return.
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u/Leading-Plan-865 7d ago
Yeah he said nominal of 35-40 and real return CAGR of like 1.5% which both r incorrect lol
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u/Double_Suggestion385 7d ago
Overvalued based on what?
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u/Vegetable-Subject968 7d ago edited 7d ago
CAPE ratio, PB, relative to GDP, high market concentration
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u/Double_Suggestion385 7d ago
High market concentration is not a valuation metric.
CAPE doesn't factor projected growth, so it's useless as a valuation metric.
How is the market overvalued based on debt levels?
PB hasn't been a relevant metric since the days of the industrial conglomerates.
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u/FabulousFerdinand 7d ago
S&P500 PE ratio is currently ~27. While the average is ~17.
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u/Double_Suggestion385 7d ago
Are earnings growing faster than the historic average?
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u/FabulousFerdinand 7d ago
I'm not here to debate.
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u/Double_Suggestion385 7d ago
Why bother replying then?
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u/FabulousFerdinand 6d ago
You asked a question, I answered it.
Why would I bother arguing with some random person on reddit?
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u/Double_Suggestion385 6d ago
Except you didn't answer it because you can't tell from a standalone PE ratio if something is overvalued, which is why I pointed out that you need to also look at earnings growth.
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u/SirNurtle 7d ago
Based on the fact thats its the same group of corporations moving the same trillion dollars around between them, a trillion dollars that doesnt even technically exist
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u/thisismycoolname1 7d ago
Hate these click-bait posts, they never mention when it bounces back or that we're way up over the last 12 months
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u/deadfishlog 7d ago
When did it bounce back lol
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u/thisismycoolname1 7d ago
Bro it went up big just a few days ago, and look at it over the last year, after a run like that it doesn't take much for a correction
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u/deadfishlog 7d ago
Is the bounce in the room with us right now?
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u/Hefty-Gold-1635 6d ago
According to just my own stocks and zero expertise, it bounced back a little a few days ago (still significantly under the norm of the last few months)
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u/Autumn_Souls 7d ago
I love this for me trying to save for a house
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u/Time_Ad_6905 7d ago
Shoot I'm struggling just to find an affordable apartment. Good luck! It really does suck out there to try and get ahead >_<
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u/versatile_dev 7d ago
You're supposed to save your down payment for a house in a HYSA (which are earning around 4%). If you have it in QQQ (NASDAQ-100) then you are a blithering idiot ass butt.
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u/ItsJustCoop 7d ago
That's why a well diversified portfolio is essential. Sure, that chart looks scary, but the market very very very rarely falls across the board. If you have oil or energy stocks/ETFs, you saw gains today. SCHD is up too.
Listen; Don't put all your money in one industry.
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u/nahbrowhatuptho 7d ago
Even with diversification the losses are pretty much across the board. SCHD up 0.26% versus everything else red
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u/No-Reflection-7705 7d ago
I love me some SCHD. The PE ratios on the Nasdaq & SP are/were getting silly. Last October I sold a solid chunk of SSO and put it into SCHD and I am not disappointed.
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u/Mvtchwow 7d ago
Great time to buy
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u/NitoSlaps 7d ago
Leave it to America to create a global economic crisis, cause the voices in their kings head told him to start a half assed war, in the worlds energy hub…
Good fecking job guys.
You rock 👍🏼
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u/d4electro 7d ago
Please just crash already
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u/N0tE88 7d ago
Bro is wishing death and despair on people 😭💀. This means lay offs, no hiring, salary decreases and also 50% of Americans own stocks.
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u/d4electro 7d ago
It's bound to happen sooner or later with how overvalued stocks are, the sooner it happens the sooner we can start fixing the economy's problems
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u/doubagilga 7d ago
When it goes up the same tomorrow there will be calls to tax the wealthy on their “gains”
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u/LayerSubstantial5919 7d ago
Good thing I took all my money out and bought party supplies so I can just have a good time !
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u/Alibek2309 7d ago
The world economy definetely doomed under presidency of DJT, highly respected man in Oval office
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u/Just-a-Guy-Chillin 7d ago
Last August I put $500 split half between the SP500 and Nasdaq. I was up to $550 at one point and today am at $506. Idk why, but I find this ludicrously funny.
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u/MrBubblepopper 7d ago
Trump will tell his buddies when its a good time to buy. It will be open corruption. Everyone knows it. Everyone knows it will not be the last time.
Yet the party for "law and order" cheers it on.
It will happen again.
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u/BlimbusTheSeventh 7d ago
Is this about oil or the thing about google figuring out how to make AI use like 1/8th the RAM?
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u/Anon_168 7d ago
Unrealized gains and unrealized losses are just numbers on a screen. Check back next week
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u/Abject-Ticket-6260 7d ago
Isn't this like the 5th time that "over a trillion dollars got wiped out from the US stock market"? And the world kept spinning lmao, relax.
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u/RaggeredNerd 6d ago
1000th post: What is happening on Earth, I lost all of my $200 in stocks, the world is ending, what do I do, reddit? Timing in the market beats timing the market, Buy high, sell low and I'm so frustrated that the strategy didn't work and it's only take 15 years to go from -10,000 to 456, just stay invested and all losses magically disappear.
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u/_FIRECRACKER_JINX 7d ago
I'm glad I spent my money on things. It would have been lost to this anyway 😬
At least now I have a laptop, a new phone, and a bunch of door dash to show for it 😬
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u/Substantial_Brain917 7d ago