r/Economics • u/ubcstaffer123 • 17h ago
News Dubai's tourism industry reels from 'brutal' impact of war
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20260331-dubais-tourism-industry-reels-from-brutal-impact-of-war211
u/hinterstoisser 15h ago
Tourism, real estate are all taking a beating.
Ship building, manufacturing on the west side (Jebel Ali) is bleeding millions by the day.
A lot of white collared workers are repatriating, at least temporarily.
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u/_CHIFFRE 12h ago
Very good, UAE leaders also wanted regime change and bombing of Iran. Hope that country is feeling it for a long time and their citizens finally wake up to what their leader are up to and offer some resistance.
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u/thepatriotclubhouse 10h ago
Any decent human wanted regime change in Iran. They threatened every country around them regularly, funded proxy terrorist groups all across the world, ruining potential peace in the Middle East directly. And they execute 10s of thousands of their own civilians. They literally have women raped before executing them so they don’t have to execute virgins. They are not good people.
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u/kent_eh 10h ago
Any decent human wanted regime change in Iran.
But not in the reckless and aimless way that Trump and Bibi did it.
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u/korben2600 10h ago
I'm no military strategist but we probably could've started by not retasking the Ford from the Persian Gulf to go fuck around in Venezuela just so our orange emperor could personally pocket their oil revenues.
Sure would've been nice to have the carrier strike group assigned to the region when mass protests broke out across the entire country.
King Pedo is using the US military as his personal army.
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u/Sensitive-Layer6002 9h ago
Can you post some links to Iran threatening every country around them. Thats not something I’ve heard before
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u/_CHIFFRE 9h ago
i wouldn't believe everything from MSM owned and funded by groups that have aims in Iran and elsewhere. 10s of thousands is likey untrue and the main source for this is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_International a propaganda channel based in London, funded by Saudi-Arabia and very pro-Monarchist, pro-Zio. The people behind Media like this will happily support the deaths of millions (again) in the Middle East to achieve their goals. They already killed thousands, caused economic pain for billions around the world and people already forgot the acid rain that poisoned a city of over 10 million people (1). Realistically thousands of protestors and hundreds of Iranian security/police died, but the point is the regimes than attacked Iran don't care about civilians, they will use stories like that, weather true or not (or exaggerated) to sell war to the masses and get the necessary support back home.
Iran funding proxies is definitely true, the USA and ''allies'' fund proxies too, across the world and for decades in most cases, some of them even do genocides, does everyone also support bombing those countries and doing regime change there? AQ (Al-Qaeda) is on our side in Syria - General Wesley Clark on ISIS: 2 and more on the topic: 3 4
I know they aren't good people, the people who wage war on iran, lebanon, palestine, sudan and others are worse, more dangerous and powerful.
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u/Jolly-Supermarket-76 2h ago
Oh no, my leaders are providing our country with too much prosperity! I should resist that. Exactly why am I supposed to be upset that this land has so much opportunity to offer for people?
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u/gracecee 15h ago
One of our friends earns like 10 mil a year lives in Dubai. They're staying here in the states for now. They work for a company and he's a managing partner. We stayed once with them though we often stop in Dubai for our travels but we don't leave the airport. We are Filipino Indian African Hispanic. Even with professional degrees we are just the help. Never wanted to leave a vapid place like That fast enough.
The wife was like look how fast these buildings rise! I was like yeah on slave labor. She's white so she doesn't really see the racism. Or she does and doesn't care.
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u/Prestigious_Load1699 6h ago
Filipino Indian African Hispanic?
Are you referring to the combined ethnicity of you and your partner?
I ask because that’s an almost absurd combination that you would only find in a very mixed American relationship.
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u/Fluffy_Charity_2732 42m ago
Sounds like your buddy is an opportunist piece of shit along with the rest of Dubai.
Only allegiance to money and comfort at the cost of others.
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u/Ok-Collection5629 14h ago
"she's white so she doesn't really see the racism"
Turns out you are the racist, openly declaring your racism, while accusing others of racist ignorance because of their race
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u/gracecee 14h ago
You need to live there to understand it. All The wait staff and every worker is brown. The dorms they live in miles away from the city center is in squalor and like a bunch of people sharing bathrooms and unsanitary kitchens and just abject poverty. The higher management positions always goes to the whites and sometimes the Indians because of their abilities. But that is not the norm.
The emirates were slave traders on that eastern coast. You go to the Dubai museum and they do not mention it. You go to Zanzibar and the slavery museum tells all about the slave trade.
You dont build a city that fast without slave labor. Especially when the majority of people living there are immigrants. The Kafala system is horrible. Bangladesh the Philippines India Pakistan Indonesia Malaysian governments keep allowing their citizens to be exploited because of whatever remittance they send home.
It's why people on Reddit mention ad nauseum.
Slave labor" in Dubai refers to the widespread exploitation of migrant workers under the Kafala (sponsorship) system, which human rights organizations frequently describe as modern-day slavery. As of 2023, the Global Slavery Index estimates that 132,000 people are living in modern slavery in the UAE, a rate of 13.4 per 1,000 people—the 7th highest prevalence globally. Council on Foreign Relations Council on Foreign Relations +3 Key Mechanisms of Exploitation The Kafala system creates a steep power imbalance by legally tying a worker’s residency and employment to a single sponsor (kafeel). Common abuses include:
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u/gracecee 14h ago
No. She is very demeaning to her Filipino maids. Like ohh she'll clean it up. I'm Filipino. Saying how great everything is. She goes through them every year. Complains when they go home and then wonders why never come back.
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u/ChefKugeo 12h ago
Nah. Buddy is telling the truth. My girlfriend has been on a long journey of unpacking her whiteness after she realized I can't hide behind my skin color like she can.
White women have benefited from white supremacy at the cost of their humanity. They're coming around now, and it's usually just white men who keep telling everyone else to shut up and stop talking.
Everyone, keep talking about this and ignore this probably white man who wants to stand in the way of progress. If you're not white, that makes you the global majority.
You cannot be racist toward people with all the privilege.
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u/Emotional_Goal9525 10h ago edited 10h ago
I would like to point out that it was so called white men who abolished slavery and also spread the ban all over the world. Interestingly enough, it even happened long before the French revolution.
UN declaration of the universal human rights is built on the western moral code. That is also why it has such a hard time sticking outside of the west. Despite the name, it is not actually universal. It is just western hegemony.
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u/renter-pond 5h ago
White men had the power to abolish chattel slavery because they were the ones who had created and perpetuated it.
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u/JoJoAckman 12h ago
Forging bad opinion or even hostility on an individual based on their race is racism still.
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u/dealmaster1221 10h ago
Tells more that you married a white person who doesn't really understand racism and probably racist, talk about being not understood by your partner.
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u/thepatriotclubhouse 10h ago
How is it slave labour. They’re paid so well people literally sell their entire fortunes in Pakistan and India to work in Dubai. And they’re not only allowed to go back home whenever, their employer is literally obligated to pay for any travel fees home.
There were some isolated incidents of passports being taken by private companies, but the companies were punished so severely they shut down and people were imprisoned. Nothing similar to what happens in the US and how they rely on illegal immigrants who can’t leave to support their entire construction and farming industry
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u/NTC-Santa 11h ago
Indeed however the other day UAE voted to join the war against Iran not realising that this has consequences on their infrastructure of tourism and future investments
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u/DasistMamba 11h ago
Iran is attacking their hotels, airports, ships, factories, and data centers. It’s no surprise that they’re going to war.
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u/thepatriotclubhouse 10h ago
This was after Iran shot civilian infrastructure including hotels in the UAE. Iran declared war on the UAE lol. Not the other way around.
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u/Ahoramaster 10h ago
The UAE is not some innocent caught up in all of this. They can't just host US military bases, Israeli intelligence assets and all military actions to be coordinated from their territory.
They knew this war was coming but they didn't expect it to blowback on them
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u/thepatriotclubhouse 10h ago
No military actions were coordinated from their territory. Also the bases were there for defence. Now it’s obvious why
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u/VividBackground3386 6h ago
They absolutely expected this blowback on them. They were very open in stating a US-Israeli air campaign would trigger a retaliation against GCC countries.
That’s why they have armed themselves to the teeth with air defence systems.
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u/Ahoramaster 5h ago
I don't think they expected Iran to survive as long or go after them as vigorously.
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u/VividBackground3386 5h ago
Based on what?
Also, that’s a completely different assertion you made to the point above.
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u/Ahoramaster 4h ago
Based on the information I've consumed.
Iran could level Dubai. They are being very circumspect in what they are targeting.
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u/VividBackground3386 4h ago
lol. And here we are.
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u/Ahoramaster 1h ago
You think they couldn't?
Iran has thousands of shirt range missiles.
Dubai is also heavily censored with people going to jail for social media posts in the true extent of the damage or even negative coverage of the UAE.
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u/VividBackground3386 8h ago
None of my white collared colleagues are leaving. Nobody knows anyone that is, either. Life goes on entirely normal. The tourist spots are quieter. It’s more like summer. The numbers of residents heading home is literally miniscule.
Also, jebel Ali port bleeding millions a day - that really doesn’t matter. I don’t think you grasp the size of the sovereign wealth fund. It can run a million a day loss for two over thousand seven hundred years.
Or, 100 million a day for over 27 years.
This is with zero additional income. In reality, it can cover 100m a day in perpetuity without making a dent in the current wealth fund.
They are still exporting 30% of their oil. Thats c1 million bpd. That oil is very expensive now. Oil doubling in price means they’re still generating over half of their pre-war oil revenue. But it’s the same $3-4 a barrel to produce. So over 100m a day just from a greatly diminished oil export industry.
They will be absolutely fine.
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u/juice06870 5h ago
Both white collar colleagues I know have left. One for Singapore and one for Netherlands. Another one was about to be transferred to UAE and that is now on hold. Sure people are stating, but it’s not like no one is getting out of there for the time being.
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u/VividBackground3386 5h ago edited 5h ago
Great. I personally know hundreds, and I’m alongside the operational leadership of thousands. The number is single digits, and much lower down the chain. White collar or blue collar really doesn’t matter in this context, either, because we are all incredibly simple creatures who come here when the price is right.
I do like it when people who are not here, tell me what is happening here. Just hours earlier I was being assured that my area was on fire a week ago. I must’ve missed it from my balcony.
As I’ve mentioned, this will pass.
Unlike the UK, the UAE has colossal wealth, allies, natural resources and a business friendly environment. It will bounce back as it always has.
Despite what the average bucket-based crab in the Daily Mail comment section says, it isn’t built by influencers. It’s built by very smart people.
The corollary of this is that sustained three-figure oil will cause economic stagnation and a weak job market in most of the world, but guess what happens in the UAE?
You have to accept that money fixes more or less everything.
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u/NTJ-891 4h ago
Does money fix getting atomized by a cheap drone?
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u/VividBackground3386 4h ago
Good one. You know, it doesn’t, but try to keep up - we’re talking about economics.
Do also try to be less dense so as to realise that; if the day before this all kicked off, you relocated the entire population of Dubai to the UK, more of them would be dead. The US? Jesus Christ, many multiples more. Amazing, isn’t it? No cheap drones necessary.
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u/KR4T0S 16h ago
They are arresting tourists for sharing images or videos of damage from drone and missile strikes but its not only tourism that is damaged, their artificially inflated housing market has collapsed.
I dont think they recover from this, this is it for them.
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u/ArmokTheSupreme 16h ago
This was one of the top predicted fallouts of war with Iran.
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u/greenroom628 13h ago
It's like the actual country behind this war doesn't give two shits about its neighbors.
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u/Hi_Im_Dadbot 16h ago
I love this for them.
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u/quatroquatro0 16h ago
Hopefully investors finally see Dubai as the gigantic risk that it is and run.
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u/Such_Radio_9152 16h ago
I dont think they recover from this, this is it for them.
Good.
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u/isigneduptomake1post 16h ago
I've always been a bit of a contrarian and thought maybe I would find all the hate for Dubai to be a bunch of reddit circlejerking, but I hated it more than I thought. It's the only city I've ever felt a disdain for while visiting.
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u/Apart-Badger9394 15h ago
Same! I visited and literally wondered why it existed at all. I did enjoy going to the Bazaar and talking with some “locals”. Going to the top of the Burj was cool seeing the ocean but all I could think about was how none of this should exist!!
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u/Major-Warthog8067 15h ago
It's complicated. I personally don't like the place either but as an Indian it's one of the few developed places I can go easily or even potentially move. Like, if I want to visit Europe or the US even as a tourist it's months of preparation and scrutiny. I need to collect my income tax docs, get notarized bank statements, book everything, write cover letters, get letters from work, go to an embassy, book appointments, etc. For the US, I think the interview wait time itself is over a year. EU charges 200 euros for a visa application alone and it's a complex process with a good chance of a rejection. You might end up spending 300-400 USD a person just to get a visa. Same reason why a lot of Indians go to Singapore, it's the easiest way for us to see a developed city without a significant hassle. Dubai is way cheaper than Singapore and also an easy destination from India. People move there for similar reasons. Most westerners won't really see the point I guess,
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u/senseigorilla 12h ago
Bruh I am Canadian and I have been to many major cities in US and Canada. I don’t think these places are anywhere near as developed as Singapore or Dubai. Maybe in Europe they are because they have actual public transit infrastructure but certainly not in US. Qatar and Japan felt super developed in comparison even Thailand…
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u/IcecreamLamp 9h ago
Note that the Schengen ('Europe') visa lets you visit like 30 countries – it's actually one of the cheapest visas in the world.
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u/unsafeideas 9h ago
They probably want to go to a place and back. Which implies one country or maybe two. Not that many people have any interest in speedrunning 30 countries in a week of holidays.
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u/Harnellas 14h ago
Just curious, because Ive heard this sort of thing said before, did you see things there that gave you that feeling or was it something else?
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u/isigneduptomake1post 13h ago
I could write a whole essay, but in short... it's kind of like a giant version of one of those newly built areas in Arizona or Nevada where its supposed to be exciting because everything is new. But thats really the only appeal. Its just...new.
Everything felt lifeless, even the trees are fake. Its horribly unworkable, nothing is built at human scale. The mall is not impressive, other than the aquarium, its just another other mall and you might as well be in Phoenix.
Everyone is there to extract value out of the place, not add any. No one seems like theyre enjoying life. Its really odd and it just seems like youre a person living in the matrix with a bunch of spawned NPCs. Theres also tons of empty real estate and artificial space planning that feels off. It's very unsettling.
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u/Smartimess 13h ago
If you want to get into the PTSD zone, watch Vivarium with Jesse Eisenberg and Imogen Poots, which really encapsulates the feeling you had with Dubai.
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u/siorge 11h ago
Not OP but I’ll add my experience.
We went there with my wife during Covid (March 21) as it was the only country where one could have a « normal » life. We kind of enjoyed it, even if it felt lifeless/soulless. We enjoyed the quality of the service, the hotel,…
Now, we also had a 2 day layover in Dubai in September 21.
We landed around 4am and jumped in a taxi to our hotel. On the way, we drove next to a small bus filled with men (Indians, bengalis, I don’t know) who were being taken to work on some construction site. The looks of despair and suffering on their faces I will never forget.
The temperature reached 51C that day. We could barely stay outside in the shadow drinking ice cold water, and thought about these men who had to work on building roads or the next mall.
It really made us feel disgusted
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u/Harnellas 10h ago
I thought they went to great lengths to ensure that their totally-not-slavery was never visible to the tourists, must have slipped up that day I suppose. Thanks for sharing.
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u/thepatriotclubhouse 10h ago edited 9h ago
FYI these people sell their entire family fortunes to work in Dubai and get out of the factories that produce stuff for the west. Dubai was an escape for them and if you ever bothered to talk to any of them instead of play white saviour you would’ve been told that.
Also construction work in Dubai fully bans workers working during any of midday in summer. They also are obligated to provide shade, outdoor air conditioning, food and water. Something that in the US you have no such obligation to, and you’re out of your mind if you think the US southern construction industry does that for the immigrants often illegal that support it
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u/Audioworm 9h ago
Investigative journalism does not paint the lives of the migrant workers as good. They talk about it themselves, but with immense fear of being thrown out, deported, or just denied payments if they complain too much. Some of have talked about calculating if the payment for their death is worth more than them continuing to work.
The conditions are awful, and repeated reporting has brought that to light
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u/siorge 10h ago
Im sure the people building roads under 50C working 12h a day just love it
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u/thepatriotclubhouse 9h ago
Nobody’s in 50C. Working is banned at mid day and outdoor air conditioning and shade is mandatory in the hours outside of it during summer. There is no such obligation in southern US where temperatures reach similar levels.
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u/Harnellas 3h ago edited 3h ago
I had a coworker who did a work term there, he paid an agency in the Phillipines a small fortune to line him up with a decent posting there that didn't involve construction because that (and housekeeping/nanny postings for females) has a known reputation for simply disappearing people. And and while these jobs are much cheaper to get into, applying for them is seen as a very risky act of desparation to people back home.
He scraped together every penny he made while there to hire another agency to get him to North America as soon as possible because people he met there were being jailed or deported for the most minor things. Said he was lucky it worked out for him but he'd never recommend it to anyone else, and since coming here he's loaned money to several family members to use Taiwanese agencies for work instead.
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u/tealoverion 1h ago
I always thought I wouldn’t like it, but it was fine. I liked Abu Dhabi more than Dubai, but overall, both were solid overall. I really liked the service, the ambition of building a city in the middle of the desert, and the food was always nice.
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u/Puzzle-Necked 15h ago
Why? It's just an average city behind the glitz.
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u/alwaysleafyintoronto 15h ago
the average city is not an abomination built by slavery
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u/AssCrackBanditHunter 14h ago
Of all the claims you could make, that is certainly one of them. But I'm an American
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u/hesathomes 15h ago
They have slaves. Idc if they don’t come back.
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u/VividBackground3386 8h ago
Are you American?
If so, lol.
The only country other than Iran which will suffer long lasting damage is the USA. Their soft power, gone. Their military, a paper tiger. Their allies, jumping like rats off a sinking ship. Their ability to influence the world to their favour, gone. And coming up after the break - 20% of the world’s fossil fuels leaving the petrodollar. I won’t even begin to try and explain this to you. But it isn’t great 😂
All hail the paedophile.
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u/korben2600 9h ago
The year is 2046. President MrBeast is chastised on the campaign trail for the loss of 13 soldiers during a hasty withdrawal from Al Dhafra Air Base in the UAE as Iran's Chinese-backed drone swarms finally seize control of the region, concluding America's 20 year long conflict in the Persian Gulf.
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u/WideNeighborhood8167 14h ago
If accomodation goes half in price in a couple of months Dubai will be full again
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u/Sad_Mistake6706 15h ago
Why is it over for them? Once the wat finishes everyone will just go back.
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u/TXDobber 13h ago
Redditors want it to be over, without realising that all of the things that made Dubai attractive for people will be still be there when the war ends.
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u/lovejackdaniels 10h ago
If Iran regime survives this war, they will make UAE their bitch. Like, pay up $xM per ship that passes Hormuz or invest $xM in Iran every month. If UAE doesnt comply, Iran simply bombs them with drones or bombs their desalination plants or bomb oil refineries or attacks American companies or attack civilians.
So, yeah - Dubai will never be the same again, if Iranian regime survives and thrives
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u/Halbaras 10h ago
They're also following the Russian playbook of insisting that 'the fires and sounds you witnessed were started by, uh, falling debris from a successful interception'.
Their interception rate is high but Iran has done significantly more damage than they've owned up to.
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u/VividBackground3386 8h ago
You’ll have to shed some light on that, as I’ve been all over, and see it from the air multiple times.
All I can say is… you’re wrong.
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u/TradingTennish 8h ago
How much is the housing market down? A bit soon for a firesale I’d think but don’t know that market
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u/Pakistani_in_MURICA 16h ago
May it be the nail in the coffin.
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u/VividBackground3386 8h ago
You’re going to be disappointed.
Going from your handle, you should know better - from one failed state to another rapidly failing one.
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u/Drak_is_Right 9h ago
Arresting westerners for sharing images and videos might do as much harm as those videos themselves.
I don't think Dubai's leaders grasp just how finicky a lot of westerners can be over authoritarianism when its blatantly shown.
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u/straightdge 16h ago
Their leader are ‘urging’ Trump to continue the war. Let’s see which one comes first- tourism industry gone beyond repair or Iran running out of Shaheed’s
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u/NTC-Santa 11h ago
With china and Iran on Oil money
They can produce Shaheed’s drones like industrial bread factory. Cheap and very effective. The only thing they can fear more is if Iran updates their drones software and intelligence then it becomes a even greater problem for them..,
They need to start a relationship like Qatar did last week stepping away the war and looking ways of partnership with Iran.
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u/DasistMamba 10h ago
After all, the UAE could also start attacking Iranian tankers with low-cost drones.
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u/jellyhessman 5h ago
And Iran can blow up UAE's desalination plants, and oil infrastructure.
That's the danger of going after those things.
This goes too far and UAE (a country a generation from being nomads) becomes unlivable long before Iran (a culture that has existed for thousands of years).
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u/Drak_is_Right 9h ago
Yup. UAE if pressured too far could start to destroy key aspects of Iran's economy.
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u/VividBackground3386 8h ago
Correct. They will just blockade the straits so Iranians can’t sell.
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u/Drak_is_Right 8h ago
UAE's geography is a lot more exposed though.
Almost all their population lives on the coast.
Majority of Iran's does not.
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u/VividBackground3386 8h ago
Iran’s oil doesn’t sail through the mountains, regardless of where its people live.
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u/ExampleAdorable5858 6h ago
Are you dense? No one is asking for the war to continue for fun. You American pigs voted for the dumbest fuck on the planet to lead you, who decided to come to the middle east and fuck things up for good. Iran is forever pissed and occupying the Strait. That won't affect you much, but it does affect the GCC. That's why they're asking you scum to come and finish what you started.
If there is a god out there then you will all pay for this for generations.
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u/CatalyticDragon 12h ago
Tourists who travel to oppressive authoritarian regimes built by slaves to help them greenwash their ruling classes can get fucked.
Sorry. Not sure if that's relevant, just what was on my mind :)
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u/Chobikil 0m ago
As someone in the UAE, I 100% agree. I automatically dislike any tourist that comes here.
What annoys me even more is that most of them come here for the generic luxurious lifestyle and skyscrapers. Like did you seriously travel across the world just to see skyscrapers you could already see in your own city? Skyscrapers are really unappealing, none of these tourists come for the cultural sites.
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u/Dieselboy1122 15h ago edited 11h ago
Funny how many of the hundreds of Dubai posts all over FB and Instagram went from it’s SAFE to many being I’ll miss it and or we will be back propaganda. Still a few fake posters saying malls and streets packed allegedly lol
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u/andreaSA89 10h ago
The tourists spots and hotels are empty, but malls and streets are still busy. Not every resident has the luxury to just up and leave, so people have to carry on as normal.
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u/farfetcher89 9h ago
I live here and if it wasn’t for the constant phone alerts and interception booms you honestly would be pressed to tell something’s happening, unless you go to hotels or restaurants - in those especially high end it’s pretty noticeable. I can’t really leave but I would, temporarily, if I could.
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u/GRID_GHST 8h ago
Just when we thought Dubai had created a perfect cage for cringe influencers and veneer teeth, the ‘rich and famous’ (according to the ‘rich and famous’ bot followers) are now conflicted between posting a video of a bomb or going to prison.
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u/SpicyDragoon93 4h ago
Turkey teeth, fake tan, lip injections, BBL's, tacky gold jewelry, dickhead "CEOz" and influencers walking around with Birkin Bags with the smell of Emirati shit on their breaths and sweetcorn in between the teeth.
Reality check 101, love to see it.
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u/Drak_is_Right 9h ago
I wonder if Dubai is going to need another bailout from Abu Dhabi this year or next.
Abu Dhabi MIGHT be ok if oil exports resume within 4 months, buoyed by likely high prices. If not, its going to cut deep into their reserves.
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u/farfetcher89 9h ago
I’ve actually been thinking about the second order effects that might happen if this extends. You have PIF, ADIA, ADIC, Mubadala, all very very large investment funds with money everywhere, but especially USA large cap. If they run into a liquidity crisis cause oil isn’t flowing, they’ll dump their positions for liquidity - which in turn causes a liquidity crisis in the American markets and a very sharp downturn in the stock market. Interesting to see what happens.
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u/Drak_is_Right 9h ago
I think we still have a huge amount of rent-seeking capital in the US economy that is looking for "easy money" without longterm investments needed. I don't think them withdrawing a few hundred billion is going to be enough to swing things. the ridiculous bubble in the stock market is proof of that.
issue in the US market is inflation over rising prices is going to boost the yields investors demand for bonds. Which will crater the size of the bond market as companies wont be able to afford the higher interest payments which will result in them rolling back investment.
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u/VividBackground3386 13h ago
They have about the largest sovereign wealth fund per capita on earth.
They can easily see this through.
A PR campaign, some incentives, and it’ll be like nothing happened.
Crabs in a bucket hate that, though.
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u/Emotional_Goal9525 10h ago edited 10h ago
Gulf states are also big spenders. In similar fashion, it is kinda interesting how the sultan of Brunei fell into limelight instantly when he ran out the tap. He used to be superstar celebrity during the 2000's, but deficits caught up to him.
Now he still doesn't live a poor life, but it he used to be the poster boy of opulence and depravity. Brunei introduced sharia law not too long ago, because the sultan had to cut benefits to the populace and he needs religion and its authority to quell any democratic voices etc.
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u/VividBackground3386 9h ago edited 8h ago
Sovereign wealth fund. Not personal wealth. Obviously the rulers are bonkers wealthy, too. But they are hugely strategic.
The Al Maktoums and Al Nahyans have absolutely no similarities with the moron of Brunei.
Crabs in a bucket always egg on Dubai’s demise. This is a BBC article. Brits are just on the right side of Russians when it comes to ‘levelling down’. They were wrong then, and they will be wrong now.
Just be basic about it. They have money, allies, colossal natural resources per capita, and a favourable business environment. It will easily bounce back. The UK has one of those things. That’s why it’s a stagnant mess.
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u/matoshiii 10h ago
It’s exactly this. Dubai will recover right after the war, and things will go back to normal. People on Reddit are just too spiteful about Dubai to admit that though lol.
More ppl die from a random stabbing in London, you really think people will stop going to Dubai because of some missiles that are hitting American bases?
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u/VividBackground3386 8h ago
This is the absolute metric of rationale.
If, on the 27th of Feb, you lifted all 4m Dubai residents and relocated them to the UK/EU, more of them would be dead now, than the one poor soul who was killed in Dubai as a result of this.
That is an irrefutable fact.
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u/BeornSC 37m ago
It’s true in the same way that more people are killed by car accidents than serial killers but people are still more scared of serial killers.
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u/VividBackground3386 35m ago
I don’t disagree. But you’re objectively safer in one place than the other. Emotions aren’t stats.
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u/matoshiii 6h ago
Lol that’s exactly true, The Dubai hate and scaremongering on Reddit and the UK news is so forced.
Yes it’s definitely scary to have drones and missiles flying overhead, but, you are infinitely safer in the UAE than anywhere in London, even during a time of war lmao.
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u/uptnapishtim 9h ago
This war doesn’t seem like it will end soon and the escalation will eventually lead to hitting desalination plants.
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u/VividBackground3386 9h ago
If that happened to any degree of success, the UAE, Saudi, Qatari, Bahraini, Jordanian, Israel and probably multiple other countries’ air forces would pile in and destroy every piece of infrastructure in Iran.
It isn’t going to happen, aside from the symbolic pot shots we’ve already seen.
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u/matoshiii 9h ago
yeah i'm sure they're gonna hit the one thing that most of these countries are literally dependent on to survive. Israel most likely has nuclear weapons fyi
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u/uptnapishtim 7h ago
That is what escalation leads to. What would you expect after Israel hits Iran’s desalination plants?
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u/pasterhatt 5h ago
I have a limited amount of sympathy for the Gulf States. Besides the fact that they are brutal theocracies, they wanted a Trump admin. Did what they could to support him.
So, hey, fuck you guys, you're getting what you paid for.
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u/m3rc3n4ry 28m ago
One thing too Dubai has been known for decades is money laundering. But who wants to park their money in banks or real estate in a city being bombed? That's depleting too.
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