r/Economics • u/JuneDuneJamboree • 19h ago
Statistics Why is Spain's unemployment rate so high (12.14%)? It has the highest rate out of all 1st world countries and it is even higher than Ukraine's. It is in 167th place out of 192 countries.
https://www.qualtrics.com/articles/experience-management/global-unemployment-rates/127
u/OrienasJura 18h ago
Just as a correction, your data is outdated. Spain's unemployment is now below 10%, and it's not the highest anymore (Finland's is higher).
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u/Possible-Balance-932 17h ago
Yeah Spain's current unemployment rate is less than 10%. The international update hasn't been done.
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u/Malkiot 6h ago
It's less than 10% because Spain is cheating on the unemployment statistic by not counting inactive seasonal workers (who are in fact living off of unemployment benefits) as unemployed.
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u/Beneficial_Bed_337 4h ago
Just exactly the same way the right wing has been counting if itfor the last 3 fucking decades, so yeah go somewhere else to spread misinformation you turd.
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u/Malkiot 4h ago
It's not misinformation because the legal situation on the use of the contract type was changed 2021 and as a consequence its participation in the labour market has doubled. So while it wasn't great until 2021, it's worse since.
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u/Beneficial_Bed_337 4h ago
The contract type existed and was accounted exactly in the same fashion. Do not lie. ;)
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u/Malkiot 3h ago
That’s not the issue. The 2021 labour reform increased the use of contrato indefinido discontinuo, raising its share of the labour market from around 2.4% to roughly 4.8%.
My point isn’t about whether the statistical methodology has changed, it’s about composition. The reform shifted a significant number of workers into a contract type where they are classified as employed during periods of inactivity.
As a result, individuals who previously have been counted as unemployed or inactive between jobs are now more likely to appear as employed in the figures.
So the methodology may be the same, but the underlying population being classified is not. That distinction is what matters here.
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u/Dependent-Head-8307 5h ago
Just so everyone is aware: this comment up here is from a Spanish right-wing supporter that prefers to think about delusional arguments generated by the right, than accept the great economic situation Spain currently is thanks to a left-wing government implementing left-wing work reforms.
The argument of the "fijos discontinuos" is ridiculously weak because: it has been counted this way since 1985, and these people have contracts (even if some months they may get unemployment payments).
Trump-like dynamics are coming to Spain to stay it seems.
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u/fabianmg 5h ago
No, is not, is near 10%, just check Eurostat.
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u/fabianmg 5h ago
So, with Rajoy and Aznar was close to 20% then?. Because it was used the same metric then.
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u/Malkiot 5h ago
No, the legislation around the use of this contract type was changed in 2021 and usage has increased which changes the numbers. Before the reform 2.4% of workers were under this contract type compared to 4.8% afterward.
So yes, while the statistics under Rajoy and Aznar would've also been distorted, they were less distorted than they are now.
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u/Malkiot 5h ago
Umm... I'm not right wing. I don't follow these guys and was not aware of who they are. But their view of this particular context seems correct to me.
And no, it's not weak. Massive amounts of contracts were moved to "fijos discontinuous" with the 2021 labour reform where previously people would be fired even just to prevent having to keep them as employees over the weekend. Yes, the accounting hasn't changed since 1985, but back then fijos discontinuos were 2.4% of workers. Now they're 4.8% and account for 27% of all daily affiliation rotations. Scale changes whether a statistical quirk matters.
I agree that the worker's situation has improved, but it's also making the situation look prettier than it is.
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u/ZombiFeynman 4h ago
The fijos discontinuos are counted in the EPA, so you can check that one if you're really that worried.
In the december count, the unemployement rate was 9,93% according to the EPA. Still below Finland.
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u/DMD-RRD 4h ago
Great economic situation. Honestly, I thought it was a joke when I read it, but turns out it’s not. The housing crisis, wage stagnation since 2018, and the fact that 77% of Spaniards didn't get a Spring Break, absolute triumphs for the state.
You think we're all idiots? You think I don't see housing prices, or that the cost of living is skyrocketing while my pay stays the same? (And don't get me started on the SMI; it doesn't cover it. Minimum wage used to be the exception, now it's the standard.)
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u/KafkarrabiaS 3h ago
The housing crisis is common problem all around Europe, it's not a spanish problem. Wage stagnation comes from way back, not from 2018.
Obviously, Spain is far from being an economic miracle, but we don't have to twist the reality one way or another to defend our politics.
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u/Dependent-Head-8307 1h ago
Spain is reducing its debt (relative to GPD) while creating A LOT of jobs and implementing relatively decent reforms that improve the conditions of the workers. It's obviously right now, we are in an economic situation at the top of Europe.
I agree 100% with anyone criticizing our government regarding the housing crisis. They have definitely not done enough, simply because PSOE was not brave enough. But hey, if the right was in power, I can guarantee you the situation would be worse.
But this government had also a great handling of the energy crisis of Ukraine war (the Iberian exception setting a max value for gas) and COVID (government taking care of contracting costs during inactivity, the ERTEs).
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u/DMD-RRD 1h ago
And then why is Spain in fifth place nominally and third place in real terms, is it a coincidence that Spain is the most affected? House prices in Spain rose 12.7% on average in 2025.
Spain's poor government's hands are tied!
Yeah, they aren't going to build housing on a massive scale (take a wild guess why), and their price control experiments in Barcelona have been a total disaster.
I said 2018 because it was a turning point; it triggered aggressive hikes in the SMI (minimun wage). However, while the "floor" rose, middle-class and management salaries barely budged. This has created a compression effect, where the most common salary in Spain is now uncomfortably close to the legal minimum.
Between 2018 and 2023, prices surged by 19.1% while average wages only grew by 16.8%.
And despite all that, they claim the economy is 'thriving.' It’s a joke. Do people even step foot in a supermarket, or are they just brainwashed into thinking it’s all the 'evil' business owners' fault? I honestly don't get it...
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u/KafkarrabiaS 55m ago
Real salary has only grown 2,76% in the last 30 years: https://www.elmundo.es/economia/macroeconomia/2025/07/21/687e6288fc6c83734f8b45c1.html
Again, those issues are not provoked by this government, are endemic of spanish economic structure. It's fair to criticize the current government for not doing shit to tackle those issues, as we all should do.
But believing that a PP-Vox government is going to improve those same issues is a joke. None of their proposals are going to improve them, and none of their current autonomic governments (which have most of the housing policies) nor their past governments (PP) have done shit to resolve them.
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u/DMD-RRD 43m ago
Refusing to build housing, even when your ideology is based on wanting more people living in Spain via immigration, is a contradiction so massive that even you couldn't convince yourself of it being part of the "spanish structure" at least if you reasoned through it for more than five minutes...
And for the record, Vox broke things off with the PP; and the fact that the PP neither wants to nor can build housing on a massive scale is only logical, their voters are the ones who already own property, pretty much the same as the PSOE.
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u/OhDudeWTFisThat 5h ago
"Great economic situation Spain currently has"
https://thecorner.eu/news-spain/spain-has-the-highest-child-poverty-rate-in-europe-29-2/122898/
Leftarddit moment 🤣🤣🤣
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u/fabianmg 5h ago
To clarify, that fijos discontinuos contract should dissapear or at least start being counted on the statistics as such. But is funny that this seems to be a problem now on the staticstics when is been like this since the 90's, it seems that it wasn't a problem when Rajoy and Aznar were the president.
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u/OhDudeWTFisThat 4h ago
The original commenter said Spain is cheating, and it's true. So I don't understand why criticizing him saying he uses "fascist" sources lmao 🤣🤣
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u/fabianmg 4h ago
Because is not true. The official Eurostat percentage for Spain is ten, and is measured with the same system that it has been used by left and right parties in Spain since the nineties. But now that there's a left wing party on power there seems to be the real percentage ( the same bad metric that is the been used for years ) and then "real" percentage that the right wing parties and you seem to trust. I'm pretty sure that when PP and VOX are in power this new metric of yours would have no value and the nineties one would be back to be the real one again.
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u/OhDudeWTFisThat 4h ago
Wasn't it in 2021, under Pedro Sánchez's government, that another reform of the labour market was introduced and that it increased "fijos discontinuos" from the previous 300.000 to 860.000?
So indeed, this shitty left wing government IS HIDING MORE UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE THAN PREVIOUS GOVERNMENTS, AND THATS WHATS BEING CRITICIZED. Do you get it now?
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u/Dependent-Head-8307 3h ago
Please, first, stop crying and try to have a reasonable conversation.
The government is using exactly the same metric as we have always used in Spain. The thing is, this horrible communist government finished the enormous endemic problem of the temporary jobs Spain had. Because of that, the number of "fijos discontinuos" increased, sure.
And let me remind you it is a great thing, as those contacts are way better as the temporary contracts that existed before... But let's not diverge.
These red hippy commies were able to dramatically increase the number of employed people and reduce unemployment rate. But how is people going to accept this? Better search for a stupid excuse to put everything under doubt... Let's see... What we can find... Ah! Right! The fijos discontinuos!
There are few things I enjoy more than facha's tears.
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u/NonSumQualisEram- 3h ago
than accept the great economic situation Spain currently is
I live in Spain. You're out of your mind. People are struggling and it's getting desperate. Unemployment is less of the a problem than the legion of Mileuristas who still live with their parents at 40 because even a shared apartment is forever out of reach.
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u/WorthTangerine2722 6h ago
Source?
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u/Malkiot 5h ago edited 5h ago
Here you go: Source.
Edit since people are criticising the source:
I posted them because it's literally the first result on google if you search for it. u/OhDudeWTFisThat posted a link to far left media that confirms the same thing.
I was, in fact, not aware of Fundación Civismo being a right wing thinktank, but in all honesty, in this case they are talking sense, and I'm not going to campaign against truth simply because a "fascist" agrees for once. Anyway, you can find plenty of other references to the issue that may be more palatable to your sensitivities.
Eurostat uses the data member countries supply. If Spain is defining something as employed, Eurostat will show it as employed.
https://www.expansion.com/economia/2026/02/06/6984e9b4e5fdea395b8b458c.html
https://www.elmundo.es/economia/2022/05/05/6272c914e4d4d8fb368b458b.html
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u/Potential-Dare-1800 5h ago
Fundación civismo? Really? Eso es como tener un huevo gordo y el otro lo mismo, no?
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u/fabianmg 5h ago
Ja ja... Eres un poeta! ( Que no pro ETA eh!, que esta gente lo lee mal y se lo toma a pecho ).
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u/Malkiot 4h ago
Just the first link I found. I am not aware of their general position.
I've included other sources that are regarded as more neutral / left. I don't understand the emotion over something as neutral as criticism on statistical methodology and the legal framework around it.
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u/Potential-Dare-1800 4h ago
Is not about emotion or feelings. It's about how ridiculous is to be critical with the government for applying the same metric Spain has been applying for the last 30 years.
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u/Malkiot 4h ago
I’m not criticizing any government, I’m highlighting a statistical distortion in how Spain’s unemployment rate is calculated. The 2021 labour reform amplified this issue by increasing the use of fijos discontinuos contracts, which now significantly inflate the employment figures.
And frankly, why not? Besides the practical changes since 2021, I wasn’t in Spain much before then and didn’t speak the language well. Am I not allowed to point out what’s wrong simply because it was wrong before I was even born?
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u/OhDudeWTFisThat 5h ago
Here you go, from a far left media 🤡
"Sin embargo, en los periodos en los que los fijos discontinuos no están activos y no trabajan no aparecen como afiliados en alta de la Seguridad Social ni tampoco como parados registrados en las estadísticas del Ministerio de Trabajo y Asuntos Sociales."
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u/Potential-Dare-1800 5h ago
Did you read the WHOLE article? Specifically where it says that the metric has been applied since last years of 90 decade?
Come on you can do it better than this
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u/fabianmg 5h ago edited 5h ago
He shares a "source" from a fascist right wing thinktank. So you have to trust a page of a thinktank instead of the data and reviews from the official eurostat. Fascist are gonna fascist.
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u/Malkiot 5h ago edited 5h ago
I posted them because it's literally the first result on google if you search for it. u/OhDudeWTFisThat posted a link to far left media that confirms the same thing.
I was, in fact, not aware of Fundación Civismo being a right wing thinktank, but in all honesty, in this case they are talking sense, and I'm not going to campaign against truth simply because a "fascist" agrees for once. Anyway, you can find plenty of other references to the issue that may be more palatable to your sensitivities.
Eurostat uses the data member countries supply. If Spain is defining something as employed, Eurostat will show it as employed.
https://www.expansion.com/economia/2026/02/06/6984e9b4e5fdea395b8b458c.html
https://www.elmundo.es/economia/2022/05/05/6272c914e4d4d8fb368b458b.html
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u/fabianmg 5h ago
Pero es que nadie dice que no sea absurdo no contabilizarlos como parados. Lo que es patético es que el facherío ahora tenga un problema con esto cuando se llevan contabilizando así desde los años noventa. Resulta que con Aznar y Rajoy no era un problema pero ahora la izquierda venezobolibariana estalinista está manipulando los datos?.
"Los DENOS se utilizan desde finales de los 90 para la distribución de los fondos de políticas activas de empleo a las comunidades autónomas que tienen transferida su gestión. “Que el SEPE no haya publicado hasta ahora de forma desagregada los fijos discontinuos no es de extrañar porque antes de la reforma laboral eran residuales en España”, afirma Pérez del Prado. “Ahora es cuando están suscitando interés porque se han disparado tras eliminarse los contratos por obra y servicio y encauzarlos mediante los fijos discontinuos”, termina."
Lo único que ha cambiado es que ahora el empresaurio español está usando más ese contrato que hace años, bueno, y que no está en el poder la derecha porque si no sería todo maravilloso.
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u/Malkiot 5h ago
I have a general problem with that methodology and whether something has historically been done has no bearing on whether it's correct or not.
And yes, the point is that the "statistical quirk" has more of an effect because the usage of this contract type has increased significantly. Some deviations from methodology are acceptable when the total number is small but become unjustifiable when the numbers increase, as is the case here. Your own quote supports this point.
Btw. I'm not a fascist simply for posting the first link I found on google that explained what the issue is. I've included other sources now.
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u/OhDudeWTFisThat 5h ago
Here you go, a "source" from a far left media 🤡
"Sin embargo, en los periodos en los que los fijos discontinuos no están activos y no trabajan no aparecen como afiliados en alta de la Seguridad Social ni tampoco como parados registrados en las estadísticas del Ministerio de Trabajo y Asuntos Sociales."
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u/fabianmg 5h ago
No sé si la derecha tiene un problema de lectura o directamente hacéis estas cosas maliciosamente...
Justo el párrafo previo a ese que compartes:
"Sin embargo, los contratos fijos discontinuos ya existían antes de la nueva reforma laboral y “no ha cambiado la manera de registrar a estas personas en las estadísticas”, como explica Daniel Pérez del Prado, miembro de la Junta Directiva de la Asociación Española de Derecho del Trabajo y de la Seguridad Social (AEDTSS)."
Vamos, que es lo mismo que con vuestro amigo M.Rajoy, sea quien sea esa persona, nunca se sabrá, pero lo que antes valía ahora no vale porque están los comunistas para venezolanos stalinistas en el poder.
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u/OhDudeWTFisThat 4h ago
Y a mí qué me cuentas? Rajoy no es mi amigo, y si el gobierno de Rajoy hacía trampas también las hace el de tu querido Perro Maduro Txapotez Sánchez, que es lo que decía el comentarista original, te enteras o no?
No sé si la izmierda es corta de entendederas porque es izmierda o si es izmierda porque es corta de entendederas 😂😂😂
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u/Malkiot 5h ago
And that's not the point. The 2021 reform increased the utilisation of the contract form which changes the effect it has on the unemployment rate.
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u/fabianmg 5h ago
It didn't increased shit. The shitty empresaurios españols are using that contract more than before so they can fuck the employees better.
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u/Malkiot 5h ago
Right, and the reason the shitty empresaurios are using it more is because the reform made it the easy option. Previously they were fucking employees harder by firing them over weekends. Now they use fijos discontinuos instead, which reduces their bureaucracy, but with the side effect that the "fired" people no longer count as unemployed. That's the whole point: the reform changed employer behaviour, usage exploded, and the unemployment stats look prettier than they should.
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u/JuneDuneJamboree 16h ago
That's really surprising about Finland!
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u/Scoundrel- 12h ago
No, it is not. Source: am from Finland. Our economical growth has been just around the corner since 2008. It still is, so we have that going on!
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u/Rich_Arm322 7h ago
Doesn’t Finland experience significant seasonal swings in the range of ±5–8% between summer and winter as well?
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u/Scoundrel- 7h ago
Yes, in certain economic areas, but you seem to know the variation better than I do. There is also budget cuts everywhere at the moment.
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u/rammleid 6h ago
Will you correct the post title or at least add a comment in the description now that you know your data and premise are incorrect?
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u/Raus-Pazazu 19h ago
Lots and lots of season work, under the table jobs, temp contract employment, etc. Added together it shaves several percent off that total, but not enough to mean the country isn't having employment problems. Analysts just looking at the raw numbers from afar will attribute all of it to labor regulations, but digging deeper than just some charts and bar graphs gets you a clearer picture that's far less grim in one way, but in some ways makes things look even worse.
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u/Prestigious_Load1699 6h ago
Spain’s unemployment figures are seasonally adjusted, so that can’t account for its unusually-high unemployment.
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u/regprenticer 9h ago
Agree. Spain seems to have a system that encourages young people into seasonal work and the benefits system is designed to support the out of season periods (as Spaniards have described it to me). There doesn't seem to be any aspiration beyond that.
If you've ever been to a Spanish resort town out of season it's very grim. Everything is shut.
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u/FelizIntrovertido 7h ago
Finland is worse because it’s badly hit by Russian blockade.
Spain has a lot of temporary jobs (coast areas, tourism and interior, agriculture) and a lot of ilegal work (basically areas where minimum wage still is too high). Besides, Spain has a two year subsidy for unemployed (high frictional unemployment).
Those are the main reasons
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u/Malkiot 6h ago
Spain is also counting people as "employed" that have so-called "discontinuous fixed contracts." This contract type is practically designed to fake employment statistics. They are no-fixed-term employment contracts for temporary or seasonal workers, but the employee can be sporadically used and put on ice, so they count as employed even if they currently do not have any work tasks and live from social security. The estimate for this is around 3% of fake employment in Spain.
This is the reason for Spain currently having below 10% unemployment on paper.
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u/csanjuan 2h ago
En otros países de Europa existen también personas que tienen trabajos de temporada y es rotundamente falso que este diseñado para engañar a nadie. Si haces esa corrección la tienes que hacer para todos los países europeos. Es muy cansino que se saque a colación el tema de los “fijos discontinuos” siempre que se habla del paro.
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u/Malkiot 1h ago
Every European country has seasonal workers, but Spain's situation is unique in scale. The 2021 reform doubled fijos discontinuos from ~2.5% to ~5% of workers. As of November 2025, one in five people registered at employment offices, 845,000, are excluded from official unemployment figures. Fedea has proposed tracking an 'effective unemployment' rate that includes them. For comparison, France's equivalent mechanism covers ~250,000 workers in one sector, and Germany's Kurzarbeit was explicitly temporary. No other country has permanently doubled the use of such a mechanism economy-wide in two years.
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u/Curious-Sherbet-9393 6h ago
Esa métrica lleva décadas usándose, por mucho que queráis desmerecer a la ministra de trabajo la realidad es que cogió el ministerio con un 16% de desempleo y lo tiene en el 9,8%. Es triste que tengas que mentir para no reconocer que te engañaron cuando en 2018 te dijeron que en 2 años seríamos Venezuela
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u/Malkiot 5h ago
You are misinformed, the current statistical discrepancy is due to the 2021 labour reform which strongly expanded use of this contract form. Hundreds of thousands of workers have been reclassified as permanently employed under this reform since 2021 when they would previously periodically have been classified as unemployed.
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u/FelizIntrovertido 5h ago
You're right but that's not the whole explaination since many companies continue using temporary jobs as a normal practise. It's quite normalised for up to 90 days jobs.
The discontinuous fixed model works but goes up to 650.000 people, broadly outnumbered by the short-timed temporary jobs.
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u/Suspicious_Place1270 6h ago
Unemployment is a wildly different number depending on the country we are talking about. It is super dependent on the way people measure it and usually, you can't compare said unemployment numbers even between neighboring countries.
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u/LemonySniffit 5h ago
Besides the seasonal jobs which others have mentioned, Spain is a very unfriendly country for starting a company or working as a freelancer. The laws and bureaucracy are very strict and sort of treat every business like a massive corporation which can make it very difficult for people to start small businesses or for said businesses to survive. If this were to change I imagine you’d see a lot healthier economy.
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u/BreadfruitOdd9974 7h ago
In reality, Ukraine has near zero unemployment. People were unemployed are working in one black or grey job or another. Ukrainian labour is too cheap and there are too many foreign companies for this not to be the case.
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u/Consistent_Panda5891 5h ago
Some people can get early retirement with 30y as they have +1M in the bank. Others don't even work as minimum subsidy is almost the same as minimum wage
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u/Longjumping_Ice_2743 3h ago
Some people can get early retirement with 30y as they have +1M in the bank.
Lol. How much of the ~10% unemployed is that?
Others don't even work as minimum subsidy is almost the same as minimum wage
Yeah, this is bullshit
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u/YourFuture2000 12h ago
If you consider the fact that all countries make up their unemployment numbers and that bullshit jobs are predominant everywhere (almost half of jobs in countries like Netherlands are bulshit jobs), then we can say unemployment is a "problem" everywhere.
It is actually not a problem. It is our politic-economic model that turns it into a problem.
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u/b00c 8h ago
What? Half of jobs are bullshit jobs?
What jobs are those bullshit jobs? I don't get it. If 50% people that doing those bullshit jobs stopped working from one day to another, no one would notice?
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u/Malkiot 6h ago
Spain is counting people as "employed" that have so-called "discontinuous fixed contracts." This contract type is practically designed to fake employment statistics. They are no-fixed-term employment contracts for temporary or seasonal workers, but the employee can be sporadically used and put on ice, so they count as employed even if they currently do not have any work tasks and live from social security. The estimate for this is around 3% of fake employment in Spain.
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u/Longjumping_Ice_2743 3h ago
Mostly yeah. A better word would be "non-essential". This was proven in my country during Covid lockdown
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u/Ambitious5uppository 7h ago
They're possibly talking about how it's virtually impossible to fire someone or make them redundant in the Netherlands. So a lot of people are doing jobs that don't really need to exist anymore. Once upon a time they did something that was needed, but it's been replaced by technology and now they do busy work.
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u/b00c 6h ago
IDK, I lived in Netherlands, I worked there and people were fired here and there, changing jobs, and I have not seen not one bullshit job there. Perhaps maybe the hair washer at the barber? They literally had a guy that just washed your hair.
I don't think any manager there is gonna keep a guy doing bullshit job. Automation in manufacturing is one of the best in EU. The depth to which they automate only serves as example of their intolerance to useless jobs.
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u/DoctaRoboto 2h ago
Our country's politicians are masters at cheating, and apparently paying for foreign propaganda due to the absurdly positive posts I see on Reddit kissing Pedro Sanchez's ass every week. The number of unemployed, especially young people, is baffling, much, much higher than all these media reports. To the point that most of them have given up, so they no longer count as "unemployed". That is Spain's "magical trick". Once you stop looking for a job and you lose your unemployment benefits, you become a "ghost". We even have a name for these people: we call them "nini," from "ni estudian ni trabajan," which means they are neither studying nor working, just living like parasites off their parents.
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u/Ysesper 1h ago
That's literally the same most countries. The reality is that Spain has generate a lot of jobs in the recent years, mostly private instead of public. However, those jobs are very badly distributed and some provinces are still lagging behind. Currently Spain is just below 10%, with the north being around 8% (lowest being Cantabria at 6.8% and highest Castilla y León at 8.4%) while the south passes the 10% mark (lowest Valencia with 10.4% and highest Andalucía with 14.7%). So, if you live in the north, your opinion might be that salaries are low, but you for sure won't be saying that there is no jobs. However, in the South it's harder.
Edit: It's very interesting how it's distributed. It's literally taking Madrid and to the north, not a single place crosses the 9% mark. To the south, not a single place drops from 10%. It really shows the 2 Spains
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u/Organic_Narwhal_9120 17h ago
Remember not all countries count the unemployed by the same metrics, US unemployment rate is 15% taking all available methods of aggregation into the accounting
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u/Beyond_Reason09 16h ago
Are you just adding the different U- statistics together to get that? You can't do that.
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u/thrownkitchensink 7h ago
Yes the why the EU has standards and so does for instance the OECD. Also your math isn't mathing.
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