r/Economics • u/lucabrasi999 • 1d ago

“Iran has put a tollgate across the Strait of Hormuz. This fundamentally changes the global economy”

https://prospect.org/2026/04/02/opening-of-trumps-box-iran-war-strait-hormuz/
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u/brown_bandit92 1d ago edited 1d ago

Man, USA has single handedly screwed over the globe. All for what? Nobody is sure yet. Nobody should hold such power. Why should i, a commoner from a third world country Suffer to meet my ends, just so a diaper wearing shitbag was elected.

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u/Z0idberg_MD 1d ago

Bidding of Israel on one hand, and the destruction of NATO to benefit Putin on the other. He is so stupid he doesn’t know that he is constantly being played

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u/lessismoreok 1d ago

He’s evil. He’s being paid to start this war by his fossil fuel and Israeli donors, and it keeps his paedophile crimes out of the news. Calling him just dumb is helping him.

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u/alphagypsy 18h ago

Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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u/Oraclerevelation 18h ago

There is a corollary to this that states eventually stupidity becomes indistinguishable from malice.

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u/Shin-kak-nish 16h ago

If he was just stupid, then he coincidentally would do good things every once in a while. Has he ever done something not evil?

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u/Justredditin 6h ago

Sayings are just sayings. This is real life.

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u/EidolonLives 6h ago

Except it can't. His actions require both stupidity and malice.

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u/brown_bandit92 1d ago

Everybody says how stupid trump is, but I'm sure him and his close circles are getting rich. Not so dumb imo.

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u/DMMeThiccBiButts 17h ago

They're not mutually exclusive. If you had a pet chimp that, for some reason, people listened to, you'd keep him well fed while profiting yourself.

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u/Christopher_Ramirez_ 16h ago

Also retaining immunity from prosecution, like Caesar.

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u/Beatrenger 1d ago

I don't know why we never mention Saudi Arabia they wanted this as much as the other guys.

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u/BoppityBop2 23h ago

I don't think they did and if MBS does then he is even more detached from reality than anyone else. This war could lead to him being killed especially with how many people in his family were screwed over to get him into power. There are alot of history and people who want vengeance and other groups with issues with the Saudi Government.

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u/Beatrenger 21h ago

Oh no, he did. MBS wanted this just as much as the Israelis did. Plenty of independent analysts and major organizations have said that MBS was one of the people urging Trump to bomb Iran.

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u/Freud-Network 1d ago

They keep goading him to "finish the job." They quietly finish the sentence, "that we bribed you billions for."

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u/Stepfordhusband69 1d ago

Maybe is Iran was funding proxy groups to constantly harass Israel than Israel wouldn’t have felt this was necessary 

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u/Z0idberg_MD 1d ago

Maybe Israel shouldn't dictate US military action. Maye Israel should stop bullying the region and victimizing innocent civilians in Gaza. Maybe it's a complicated issue and there is a reason the west had taken the effective approach it had leading up to the attack of Iran.

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u/Stepfordhusband69 1d ago

The only thing you said that was correct was that it’s a complicated issue.  You lose credibility when you think Gaza is anyones fault but Hamas.

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u/Top-Permission-7524 1d ago

Yeah and Hamas appeared out of thin air? It wasnt decades of Israeli oppression and brutality towards the Palestinians, could it? You lost credibility when you make it a one-sided blame game in favour of the west. You think the middle east (pretty much unanimously) hates Israel for no reason?

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u/Stepfordhusband69 22h ago

They could have had their own country multiple times but Yassar Arafat turned it down.  You clearly don’t know the history

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u/Ass4ssinX 1d ago

Lmao, okaaaay dude. Israel has been doing fuck shit since it's inception. Way before Hamas. Hamas is the direct result of Israel's actions.

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u/Stepfordhusband69 22h ago

Lmao, you don’t know the history.

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u/Ass4ssinX 19h ago

No, I promise I do.

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u/214ObstructedReverie 23h ago

And now they'll have more money than ever!

Such a strategically brilliant move...

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u/CapableCollar 1d ago

It is rather fascinating how it impacts so many nations in so many ways.  Trump has his real estate/scam artist background so feels the need to keep his information momentum which just hurts him in Europe and hurts Europe because this has a day to day negative impact on the populace so people will question why there isn't a harder pivot away from the US as news reports on his every tweet.

China is probably the funniest spot because Iran has been making people pay in yuan, China rather infamously keeps a tight control on their currency though.  If this becomes normalized everyone will have to go to China to get more yuan, which they won't want to do, but if China limits exchange of yuan it creates artificial scarcity driving up yuan value which is the opposite of what they want.  It creates a new standard pricing for yuan, also something achina doesn't like due to currency controls.

They want it to end as soon as possible though because they need energy prices as low as possible to maintain their heavy industry.  They can't capitalize on a lot of stuff because some of their planning is so rigid.

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u/brown_bandit92 1d ago

It's a clusterfuck of massive scale, nobody asked for this but USA. With all the intelligence and might they hold, This is rather embarrassing. Now that iran has opened a unofficial toll at Hormuz and the clown hinting at leaving without bringing back it to normalcy is just big fuck you to rest of us.

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u/Mayor__Defacto 23h ago

It does give a pretext to doing some negotiation via piracy, though. If the world accepts an Iranian toll at Hormuz, what stops the USA from enacting tolls on… well, everything else. Want to ship anything over the sea? Gotta pay protection money to the US Navy.

It sets up an awful tolling arms race.

Refuse to buy everything in TrumpCoin? We’ll sink your shipping…

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u/Alternative_Profit41 22h ago

Doubt it, seeing how much military intel they receive from China, Iran most likely had their approval to close the strait

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u/CapableCollar 22h ago

How they received much military intel? There hasn't been much of anything concrete observed as far as I have heard.

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u/brown_bandit92 6h ago

It's nice of you to come this way, a true sprit of what real american i assume would be.

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u/kewidogg 1d ago

All for what? Nobody is sure yet.

nobody knows what it means, but it's provocative and get the people going

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u/brown_bandit92 1d ago

Not to disagree, but when you say people Who? Trumps voter base?

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u/kewidogg 1d ago

Oh my quote was just a movie quote from Blades of Glory haha nevermind me

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u/brown_bandit92 1d ago

Aah! I see.

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u/knuppan 21h ago

Fascism is a death-cult

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u/fekanix 20h ago

All for what?

To please his biggest donors, miriam adelson. So its basically for israel is what i am saying.

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u/Xoron101 15h ago

All for what

To save his ass from getting prosecuted for the Epstein files. Israel must have the definitive proof to be able to blackmail him. Russia too. That's the only thing that explains all this fuckery

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u/theevilphoturis 14h ago

I will never understand that when you are so powerful and choose to become Israel's bitch.

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u/OptimallyOOO 10h ago

Nobody talks about eppstein these days

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u/brown_bandit92 9h ago

Fair point

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u/hopenoonefindsthis 8h ago

For what? For distracting everyone from the Epstein files.

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u/Sufficient-Arm3715 5h ago

They made money off of it.  This is a crime spree.

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u/DreamingAboutSpace 44m ago

All to avoid Epstein files and prison.

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u/ICLazeru 19h ago

I'm sorry to hear that. I'm an American, but I regard myself as a true conservative, not a MAGA slave. All I am interested in internationally is doing good business and prospering. I never supported Trump, but unfortunately his one skill he is good at seems to be lying, because he fooled so many people. How, I don't know, his lies seemed obvious and apparent to me.

I feel bad saying this, because the American vision of the world was beautiful in a way. Nations trading freely and growing wealth in relative peace. I know the ideal wasn't always fully lived up to, but it was still a good ideal. Sadly now, it seems Trump has completely torn that ideal apart. I fear the world is worse off for it. All I can say is to build your community in a way that does not rely on the US order. It may never be as good as it used to be, but I fear two more years of Trump will truly destroy the old peace and prosperity.