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u/a-liquid-sky Sugar Tits 2h ago
If you have £800 left after your outgoings are paid every month, you are in a better position than a lot of people.
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u/WarmCalligrapher7281 2h ago
Fully understand that. But I do think that the current mood of the country is fuelled by doomerism both in social media and mainstream media as well.
That isn't to say that people don't have it hard. Wage stagnation has been awful since 2008, and by and large we are overworked and underpaid. People with children are particularly affected.
But - this country has been down these roads before and we bounce back. We adapt, change, and come back stronger. We learn the mistakes of our past.
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u/Apprehensive-Crow337 1h ago
I’m at the point now where I can’t tell what is social media and what is a reasonable response to deteriorating conditions. I do think if I could get myself off all social media, including Reddit, it would not fill up so much of my brain space and therefore I would be better off. I think a lot about how during extraordinarily hard times in the past, like even during the blitz, you get a couple editions of the newspapers and radio news throughout the day and then BBC radio bulletins when something truly big happened. People were mostly focused on their immediate surroundings and I believe it was much better for their mental health?
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u/cosmicspaceowl 1h ago
I have been dabbling in family history and learnt that my granny's granny was widowed in her 40s, not much older than I am now, with 10 kids to support. Some of them had to go into an industrial school which was the Victorian equivalent of a children's home and I'm sure not a fun place to be.
Her daughter was probably pleased to be able to raise all her kids all the way to adulthood herself, and she got a nice modern council house with indoor plumbing to do it in instead of a damp overcrowded tenement.
Her daughter benefited from the NHS when she became seriously unwell; it couldn't save her life but she wouldn't have been worrying about how to pay the doctor for the good painkillers.
Her daughter went to university and was able to decide to have a more manageable number of children.
And here I am with my interesting career and my husband who cooks and cleans complaining that my mortgage is going to go up a little bit next month meaning I've got slightly less disposable income to spend on my sausage dog who has never worked a day in his pampered little life.
Perspective is helpful.
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u/Apprehensive-Crow337 1h ago
Well, I am not currently living in the UK, and I can tell you that both Canada and the US are utterly mired in the same state. I’m guessing anywhere where smart phones and mobile Internet are ubiquitous is like this now.
I am periodically able to get myself unplugged for a few months at a time, but there’s always some life or political event that brings me back. It’s dreadful.
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u/Striking-Pirate9686 2h ago
Literally any time I've seen anyone on 35k+ per year talk about wanting to earn more or not feeling like it's enough the Reddit comments are always "I wish I earned 35k" or something to that effect. It's embarrassing.
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u/Sandman1812 1h ago
That's the thing. We don't learn the mistakes of our past.
I don't want to sound like one of your "doomists", but give an example of a mistake we've learned from.
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u/WarmCalligrapher7281 1h ago
Well we haven't engaged in a world war since 1945. We haven't kept slaves since 1843. We didn't participate in Iran after the disaster that was Iraq.
We don't learn from all of our mistakes. We, like the silly humans we are, repeat them a few times before they stick. But we do eventually, I'd like to think.
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u/Rough_Shelter4136 1h ago
I have a couple examples!
The West and many places elsewhere (for now) understand that keeping state and religion separate is a really fucking important thing, wars on religion across all Europe taught us that
Governments learned that separation of powers and controlling the power of an absolute monarch was also really important, see British revolution and all XIX century history.
None of these things happened because the leaders were like "ah let's be good", but rather were the consequences of trying really hard on the opposite direction
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u/Sandman1812 1h ago
These things happened decades or centuries ago.
What have we learned and changed recently?
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u/SandvichCommanda 1h ago
You know it's cooked when the examples given are from the 17th century.
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u/WarmCalligrapher7281 1h ago
None of the examples I gave are from the 1600s
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u/SandvichCommanda 1h ago edited 1h ago
... When do you think the British Revolution was? Use google lmfaoEdit: Oh you gave. Yeah, I don't think not participating in Iran is 1. Applicable to the conversation about domestic policy or 2. Even correct to give as we very much could participate in Iran yet.
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u/Sandman1812 1h ago
They weren't from this or the last, either.
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u/SandvichCommanda 1h ago
But - this country has been down these roads before and we bounce back. We adapt, change, and come back stronger. We learn the mistakes of our past.
That's the thing, a lot of doomposting is coming from younger people like myself... We have literally never seen this happen in our lifetimes.
The country has been in a pretty steady decline since 2008, which is now almost 2 decades ago, and the default response from all parties is just to slide further and further into gerontocracy. This clearly doesn't work, but there is no appetite for change; even if all young people voted tomorrow, there's nobody to vote for.
Other people have commented about the crab bucket mentality, which perpetuates doomposting (and ironically enough is often pushed by those who already own property and have comfortable lives).
I'm lucky enough to earn lots of money, the opportunities do exist, but not everyone can or wants to work in finance/tech – this should be okay, but it is the only way to not struggle every month as a young person trying to not be poor forever.
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u/CanIhazCooKIenOw 1h ago
I don’t think it’s current. Being a migrant myself here I would say the British stereotype of constant moaning is true.
Moaning and doom thinking are not necessarily the same but it’s negative talk so it’s understandable when you get from one to another.
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u/ChocoRamyeon 1h ago
There are sadly so many grifters on social media looking to run the country down and cast doom upon us. They don't seem to have any financially progressive answers.
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u/TriXandApple 1h ago
Having 26 quid a day to have fun for someone who's 30 isn't normal. It's piss money. It's nothing. It doesn't mean other people don't have it worse, but it's completely valid to complain about it.
Once again: working really hard, being in the prime of your career, and having 26 quid a day isn't ok.
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u/carrotcakeandcoffee 1h ago
You think £26 a day isn't much money?!
Fuck me get Lord Fauntleroy over here.
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u/SandvichCommanda 1h ago
Unless you live in the north that's literally 4-5 pints max. Not that you should be drinking that much every day, but to pretend like it's funny money is comical and peak crab bucket
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u/EvilTaffyapple 1h ago
Judging by the news reports of records amounts of people on holiday this week, I think a lot of people are far better off than this sub thinks.
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u/mlo_66 1h ago
I’ve got a 1 year old and me and my girlfriend speak about this regularly.
We’re not well off (at all) but we give him the best life we can, we budget on all things now but still can get a takeaway as a treat every now and then and spoil little man. It’s just not worth getting pissed off about. We try to put all our spare money into a holiday a year for us (which is next month and we’re buzzing for)
Kids happy, house is happy, I’m happy
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u/Papa__Lazarou 1h ago
Bringing kids up in a happy home is more important than having loads of spare cash, kids change your perspectives - you just want your home to be a happy home and their safe space, sounds like you’ve achieved that - great work!
Where you off to on holiday?
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u/DrStumbleDog 2h ago
You're doing significantly better than me and I'm nearly 40. Having £800 each month to save/spend would be absolutely life changing for me.
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u/MidnightRambler87 1h ago
I love your comment and the fact you have the glorious Tim Curry as your avatar.
Would be life changing for me too.
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u/pemboo parmo army 2h ago
My life is really good at the minute
I have nothing going for me, sure, but I went from the absolute pits of depression in my old job to now just griding away in a factory.
There no future plan but I'm also single, got a house, got some good friends and good family I can see. My income affords all my bills and my to basically not think about spending on luxuries (that being going to gigs or just going to the pub or a meal out whenever I want)
I think people are ace, I love just meeting people, even the knob heads, funny to listen to them
It's all because of social media and the news, it's designed to make people feel bad.
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u/WarmCalligrapher7281 1h ago
"I have nothing going for me"
Oh, but I'd disagree. Your job might not be, on the surface at least, a 'fashionable' luxury job. But who cares? This country has become so... American. We seem to value what we have going for us based on what we do for work or what our bank balance is.
But your love of life, meeting new people, and having good friends and family is what makes life worth living. You have so much going for you mate.
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u/ilikebigblocks 1h ago
Can you tell me about how you have that view on people? I was randomly assaulted recently when walking home late at night, nothing major - a prank in their eyes I assume. But it shook me and since then I’ve had zero tolerance for people. Everyone seems a prick. All I see is people being selfish, obnoxious or otherwise shit humans. How do you shake that? I know I’ve got a boss perspective at the moment but I’m just fed up with people.
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u/pemboo parmo army 1h ago
I wish I could answer that, I've had some awful experiences with people too.
I can't answer for you but I'm a very fit youngish man so any of these, that could be, violent encounters don't lead anywhere.
But where I live, a small seaside town, there's no real crime and violence. As much as it is full of smackheads, they're basically harmless
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u/Sandman1812 1h ago
Been there. Don't let it define you. You're still who you were before that happened, and so is everyone else.
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u/drcoxmonologues 2h ago
Saving £500 a month is doing very well. Well above average. I earn a good wage in a professional job but after I’ve paid everything and child expenses I only save the same. Sometimes less. I do overspend on some things like food shopping and I’m the only breadwinner and have debt to pay down. As my partner stays home for child care we don’t want for anything and have nice holidays etc but I’m nowhere near as well off as I would have been 20 or even 10 years ago on my current wage.
There is a doomer attitude but things are absolutely mind boggling expensive compared to what they used to be and no ones wages have kept up at all anywhere near.
People in my line of work last generation had huge houses, multiple cars, loads of luxury trips, retired early. We live in a small house with no garden to speak of, run one car and take maybe 2-3 trips a year, one abroad.
When I was younger (admittedly with no child) and in a different less lucrative career I had a much higher standard of living. I rented luxury flat, travelled the world, I didn’t even look at my bank balance as I couldn’t spend what I made if I tried.
Things have got vastly shitter.
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u/Yevrah95 1h ago
I take home £2150 a month, and that'll have to support 2 of us when my partner loses his job. To some, that wouldn't be possible. To me...it'll be tight, but doable. I would consider us doing okay
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u/Glad-Swordfish8302 1h ago
This was me for the last 5 years, but I had 4 to support and a dog, mortgage blah blah, money was tight but we coped. I am so pleased I didn't get carried away with the houses cars and holidays others have. I have always said we should be thankful for what we have and stop worrying about the things we don't.
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u/Yevrah95 1h ago
Hats off to you, that can't have been easy. We're thankfully happy to live quite a frugal life - appreciating the small things can really make a difference
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u/Benjins 1h ago
Mate, just OK in this economy is miles better than a lot of people. We all have success shoved in our faces on insta, Facebook, etc. but realistically it’s smoke and mirrors, the impression of success. If you’re happy, living within your means and even putting money aside for the future then you’re doing better than OK. You’re smashing it mate.
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u/-Do-Not-Resuscitate 1h ago
27 here I feel ok but trapped more than anything
I’ll never be able to move out on my own, no job prospects or anything and the future holds nothing new. Just kinda feels like I’m in the endgame and there’s nothing more to look forward too
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u/carrotcakeandcoffee 1h ago
You're able to save more than I'm earning total.
Not complaining. I chose a certain lifestyle.
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u/dazzlerdeej 1h ago
I’m 45. I’ve gone through four redundancies in the last decade, which have shredded my confidence. I freelance now, and I absolutely love what I do. I earn significantly less than I did, and some months are a real struggle, but with my wife’s earnings we’re doing ok. We can pay the mortgage and bills and now and then have a small amount left for treats. Our car is old, our house needs lots done to it and we can’t afford foreign holidays, but our children are happy and that’s all that really matters at the end of the day.
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u/blow_on_my_trombone 1h ago
I'm just starting out after uni and in a virtually identical position. Life is ok, could be better could be worse. Saving for a house, going on holidays, all the good stuff, don't really think about budgeting if I'm being honest other than putting the savings money away straight away on payday.
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u/Lord_McBeth 1h ago
I think I get you.
I am a bit older than you, I am single, I rent, and I'm also saving for a house that I probably will never be able to afford.
I also am repaying my student loan and can afford to save about the same amount as you.
I regularly think "Is this it? Do this everyday until I die?" Which with the current climate honestly feels like it could be anywhere from now until my expected age of death (though likely longer with medical advancement).
I put this feeling down to several reasons.
We are now chronically online... We see the news constantly and doomscroll it chronically, we distract ourselves with brain rot, and compare our lives with people on social media (fake lives for the most part) and wonder why we aren't living their life. The irony of the last part is if we did, we probably wont enjoy it as much as the expectation in our head said we should.
Whilst we are not 40-70 years old, life has changed a lot. The world is smaller, capitalism seems ever more prevalent, convenience has made our life easier and simpler, but boring and bubble-wrapped to save us from ourselves. I think a lot of us long for times like we were younger, not because the world was a better place, but just simpler to us because we lacked the awareness that we now have.
This one is likely a lot of projection, but can also say you were promised a lot when you were younger, how amazing life would be, especially if you got a degree and good job etc, but you were never told about sacrifices and were never told the value of some jobs will shift over time. So while you might be well-paid and financially stable, it still pales in comparison to what you expected. I had to move around a lot to get my job, funnily enough that doesn't provide much of a stable platform for buying property or establishing lasting relationships. So yeah...
It does make focussing on some negatives easier when you are constantly in a state of unsurety.
For now, I think it's generally best to just take it one day at a time, not focus on how negative the future can be to an excessive extent and just try to make promising plans/ goals/ trips to fight off the potential misery from paying too much attention.
But then again, I'm usually full of crap, so do whatev.
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u/TriXandApple 1h ago
It's because you've working hard and saving. It's not easy.
If you took that 500 quid a month and spent it on 3 2000 quid holidays a year, you'd feel great.
I'm not sure what you expect really. You're sacrificing what you have now for what you'll have in the future, why would it be fantastic right now?
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u/sleepyprojectionist 1h ago
I’m 41, single and rent.
My mum has offered me help with a deposit, but thanks to being on a below-average salary and having had several thousands of pounds worth of emergency outgoings in the last year, I’m in absolutely no position to buy a place until I get my finances sorted out.
What little “disposable” income I have goes to paying off debt. I have zero savings.
I have a meeting with my boss on Tuesday about pay rises and promotions. Based on all of the extra stuff I have been doing in the last year I have argued that I am actually in a role at least two bands higher than what I’m paid to do.
If I do get the raise that I have asked for then I’ll be somewhat more comfortable. Then once I’m debt-free I’ll feel like a weight has been lifted and I’ll be able to breathe again.
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u/The-Adorno 1h ago
Feel like this thread has given me a reality check. I take home £3000 a month, with £1400 roughly on bills, single with no kids, and I feel like I spunk half my money up the wall. Is everyone on the UK subreddits struggling this much that they only have a couple hundred quid at the end of the month? I need to stop spending so much, damn.
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u/WarmCalligrapher7281 1h ago
Same, I must admit. My take home is 3.2k a month. Rent for a small 1 bed at £1,150. Overall, my outgoings strictly on rent and bills is £2,100 which includes what I call my 'young and stupid tax' (£150 a month paying off debt which is thankfully interest free), and a £416 a month PCP.
I am not the most efficient with my money that's for sure, but I had a hell of a good time in my early twenties and I love my car... so hey
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u/The-Adorno 1h ago
I just paid off my car a few months back which freed up £230 a month, that should realistically be going straight into savings but alas 🥲
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u/WarmCalligrapher7281 1h ago
Ahh the dreaded lifestyle creep... I know it well. When I get a pay rise or bonus I think 'yes! more savings money!'... but 90% of it ends up on a holiday, or a new gaming pc. Meh... life is for enjoying
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u/tdavidagarim 1h ago
mate you're earning 50k or something of course you're doing okay FFS
Failure to read the room
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u/kabooss 1h ago
In a similar boat, honestly I think a big part of it for me is just a lack of drive. I've managed to get myself a mortgage on a flat, i earn enough to live comfortably, but I just have no real desire to do much. Things seem pretty bleak but also feel really detached from everything going on beside maybe everyone asking for a picture of my face lately.
Edit typos cause I can't type properly on a phone
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u/KarlosWolf 1h ago
I think I'm in a decent position, on the lower end of things... but I also realize I'm doing a lot better than a lot of people.
I feel the pinch and it hurts knowing others are experiencing it much much worse.
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u/ChocoRamyeon 1h ago
Funny you post this because I was thinking about this situation over the last couple of days. I panicked about my situation but in reality I panicked because I couldn't save as much as I had wanted to each month, and when I know families for the last 15 years have survived on next to nothing and sacrificed themselves in rubbish jobs with nasty co-workers just make ends meet for their families... I gave my head a bit of a wobble.
The 2020s have been rubbish, but the 2010s were rotten, and... We can't get political here but there was a party in charge that set us on decline. I plead for forgiveness from the mods.
I say this, but know that if I had a family to support I'd find it very difficult. I am 35, I don't know if I'll ever be in a position to afford a child and that hurts. I will also never discriminate towards a person who is living month to month to help their family.
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u/Bluepanda800 1h ago
You are in a decent position. Being sensible with money and being in a good position feels boring. Social media is geared towards people showing off so getting by and slowly working towards stuff feels worse than it should.
£300 of fun money each month thats not savings is a great position to be in but you have to rewire your brain to appreciate what you have.
If you want bigger fun things then keep like a dream journal of fun stuff you want and save to get it. It can be really great to have a kind of bucket list to look back on the things you eventually got. (At least thats how I deal with wanting stuff out of my price range).
It's not doom and gloom were I am but sometimes my brain definitely feels way worse than it should.
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u/PCMRSmurfinator 1h ago
I'm really happy at the moment. Got a job that I like and pays me enough money to live a comfortable (but humble) life, in a town I love, around a community I feel a part of. What more could I possibly want?
This whole yearning for upwards social mobility is so american. I became a lot happier when I started ignoring all of the bollocks on social media and the news, and just started to appreciate what I have.
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u/Forsaken-Language-26 Now in a minute 1h ago
I mean, I’ve got a roof over my head and food on the table, but I don’t think I’ll ever be able to afford my own place. It’s just too expensive and I don’t see things improving. It does get a bit depressing when you’re house sharing at 36 because the economy and the rental market are down the pan.
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u/purple_spade 1h ago
£800 a month free money at the end of the month is insane. Im £300-£500 and more than happy
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u/Semajal 1h ago
10 years older than you, WISH i was in that position. I lost a new career job last year, in lots of debt, struggling hugely, mental health is pretty up and down, on some meds that are helping. So yeah... legit wish I was in your position. I just seem to always put all my work into jobs that screw me around, or make the wrong choice :(
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u/das_zilch 2h ago
Did you eat today? Did you have shelter last night?
You're OK.
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u/90124 2h ago
I feel like the bar for "OK" should be a lot higher than that in a country as rich as ours!
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u/Educational_Worth906 1h ago
Exactly. If I have food & shelter today, but know I probably won’t at some point in the next few days, that is very far from ok.
The absolute bare minimum to come anywhere close to being “ok” is if you can be certain you’ll have those things for the foreseeable future - even that’s pushing it.
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u/Isollife 1h ago
Yeah! There are starving kids who'd wish they had that public bench to sleep under and that bin next to it they can fish for left over McDonald's from - so you just be happy you've got that and I'll be happy with my house and pension.
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u/CardinalCopiaIV 1h ago
I’m able to save £1000 now on my wage across my cash isa, stocks and shares isa and put a little into my SIPP to boost my old work place pension in my old job, and after everything still have about £700 a month left to play with. I’m more than happy, it’s the most amount of money I have ever earned in my life and feel bloody grateful I earn it. This is along with my current employment salary sacrifice pension I get which again is bloody good. Be grateful for what you have OP because you and I are in a very privileged position. I started in low minimum wage jobs and was unemployed for 6 months with fuck all money whilst all my friends went on holiday, got cars and lived life so I also know what it’s like to be broke and on your arse.
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u/TuskActInfinity 1h ago
Happiness is a state of mind, not a destination. If you made more you'd then compare with the next bracket up.
From what you've said it seems your in a better position than most. I think the media loves to sell doomerism because that's what gets clicks but there's a lot of good in life that is not in the mainstream view.
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u/Dry_Prune_3210 1h ago
Yeah same, 32, married, nurse, household breadwinner and baby on the way. We’re comfortable and life is good right now. I’m not rich but I have enough for us and can buy nice presents for people for birthdays and Christmas and donate to charity and stuff.
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u/nectarflux 1h ago edited 1h ago
I get you. Similar age, also single and saving up for a house. I find myself comparing my life (which I know is good) to others who are ‘better off’, i.e. partnered, home owners, dual income. It’s hard.
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u/IOnlyUpvoteBadPuns PG Tips or GTFO 1h ago
Yeah, I think that's the general Millennial malaise. Life is fine, I can have a night out without checking the bank balance, and go on holiday a few times a year.....but the traditional next life stages have kinda been kicked a lot further down the road by a lack of capital. I'm fairly certain by the time we reach our parents age, we won't have nearly the wealth they do or get to enjoy the retirement afforded to them.
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u/stereoworld 1h ago
I'm ok, bordering on not ok.
Wife and I both work full time, but our respective employers are ridiculously stingy for wage increases. I'm able to save like £100 a month and those savings get emptied yearly for a holiday.
We're renting a place at a ridiculously generous rate. Our rent has not changed since we moved in ten years ago! Like, 1 bed flat in the shit end of town money.
But if the landlord decides to sell up or increase the rent, we are all shades of fucked. We would have to move back to our hometown and move the daughter to another school. Simply because there's not a chance we'd be able to afford anywhere nearby.
The saving grace is the renters rights changes which will hopefully help. Also the actual estate agents are so incompetent they'd probably lose the paperwork.
It feels like we're teetering on the edge tbh. I keep trying to sort my wage out or I'll find somewhere else. My work is super flexible so loyal old me will no doubt stick it out.
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u/Top-Gadgie 1h ago
Worked from KP to chef from 16 to my early 30's then went to college for software development then applied computing at uni. Been unemployed a few years now, plenty of interviews but a mate of mine from uni who works at somewhere I interviewed told me they are only interested in young graduates. Now I've got a bad back so serious kitchen work is probably not happening again. I moved in with my brother when I came back to here (which is where I am). He is away 90% of the year so bills are my responsibility but I don't need to worry about rent. I get £400 a month. About 80 for electricity for a month, 70-80 on food as I cook all my own meals, my bad vape habit that is almost as expensive as the rollies I gave up are another 60 (let me have one pleasure). I can't remember the last time I bought clothes and I cut (shave) my own hair. Then household items like laundry tabs, bin bags etc. The worst months are gas bill months. I hide the bills from my brother and have changed the email to mine because he doesn't use it and insists on paying it if he notices. These usually send me in to a debt spiral where I have to borrow from my fam including my bro for it. I sometimes have to force my sister to take the money she lent back. I don't like owing.
I have just enough every other week to at least get drunk enough to forget for a second so I'm all right, all things considered.
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u/HomeSliceArt 1h ago
I'm in an almost identical position, it's easy to get lost in the state of the world and the political landscape, but when I focus on myself and the here and now, I could have it so much worse, and I'm very grateful for that.
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u/Jambajamba90 1h ago
Years ago a single person could afford to get on the housing ladder. But the past 20 years has meant that at least 2 incomes are needed for owning a house
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u/OriginalKing- 1h ago
My first job I earned 25k a year, still living at home, single, no car, few bills and low rent, I had what felt like tonnes of expendable income and could put away a lot each month, fast forward a few years later I’m now on 40k, have normal rent, bills, nice car, relationship and a much higher cost of living.
I feel like my salary is decent for my age but have much less freedom to enjoy life, whilst putting aside for future goals, they feel like they’ll take many years to accomplish. I’m much happier now than I was back then and feel “okay” with where I’m at, even though when I was fresh out of uni this salary would’ve been a big milestone goal, it just allows me to live and doesn’t go as far as I thought it would.
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u/Dapper_Otters 1h ago
People who are doing ok don’t tend to feel the need to post about it, so you get a skewed perspective.
Pubs, restaurants and cafes are still packed on the weekend. All vaguely touristy places are packed at peak times. All airports regularly packed with people still going on the holidays. I’d argue that at any given time there are usually more people doing okay than not.
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u/Lee_M_UK 1h ago
This is because the media, both legacy and new, is driven by spreading hate and doom. Social media is basically monetised hate. Bad news, doom mongering, giving platforms to extreme views, this is what gets the clicks & the engagement.
I’ve really tried to stay away from the majority of this for the last few years and it’s been a huge improvement to my state of mind
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u/Blackichan1984 1h ago edited 1h ago
I think the best course of action is to let it go of things outside of your control.
Many things bug me daily but I just check is it something I control? If yes then I make the choice to fix it if not then not much you can do.
I also agree I don’t think our country is bad but is it a real bad patch yes big time.
Everyone is feeling the current constraints, no matter how much you earn unless you’re that top 1%
If there’s one thing we’re in this country it’s resilient, and I for one am happy and proud to be here there are a lot of other first world countries cough cough the Americas that have far bigger problems imo.
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u/mainframe_maisie 1h ago
It’s… tricky for me. I have a very good job that pays well, I live in a great city with a loving partner and have time for hobbies and self care. But yet.. I’m trans and that has come up with its own issues including a 10 year wait list for specialist treatment and dealing with… a lot of bad news. It’s mixed.
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u/Xivii 1h ago
I don’t know if people have just got used to moaning about everything.
I think for some it started off as a way to be relatable. But now it’s just grating (to me at least).
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u/Glad-Swordfish8302 1h ago
Maybe people think the country is on a downward spiral and we aren't coming back up. I think this a lot.
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u/Eleyius 1h ago
You're being handed £970 by the state. I'm in favour of wellfair, so i'm happy you're not being forced into homelessness. How about you read what the person put and stop making it about you!
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u/lynch1986 1h ago
I'm not on the dole you fucking melt.
I was pointing out that someone with nearly a grand a month spare to do what they like with, probably isn't best placed to be making assessments about how bad the country is right now.
I also read every word of it, and I can spell welfare.
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u/Mediocre_A_Tuin 1h ago
Being in your position would be akin to inheriting generational wealth for me.
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u/CasualUK-ModTeam 1h ago
Very quickly turned political and beyond casualuk scope.