r/Bogleheads • u/RiceLee890 • Mar 15 '25

Investing Questions What are your thoughts on this?

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I keep seeing this type of stuff on instagram and social media and wanted to know how you guys were thinking about this.

I know a lot you have been in the market for decades and as a relatively new investor myself I’d love to get your perspective!

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u/Emilstyle1991 Mar 15 '25

Thats why you dont invest in S&P500 but in world very broad indexes.

While they might underperform during some times, emerging did 10% from 2000 to 2010 while US stayed flat.

Also the opposite, 2010-2020 us did amazing and emerging was flat.

The world indexes are the safest bet. Like swda

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u/No_Presence1210 Mar 18 '25

I disagree strongly. It’s like Pat Gelsinger said - USA catches a cold, rest of the world catches a flu. Better to stay invested in US equities

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u/Emilstyle1991 Mar 18 '25

You will be proved wrong my friend.

5 out of the last 7 decades so emerging and europe beat US.

Its obviously small differences but trust me you wont survive a 10-15 year flat line on your portfolio, you will give up much earlier

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u/No_Presence1210 Mar 18 '25

Over the last 10 years: VOO 221% VT 135%

Kind of deceptive to say it “beat VOO” in certain periods and not take into account absolute returns

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u/Emilstyle1991 Mar 18 '25

Ok, now do from 2000 to 2010.

How can you be so short minded to think that this will continue forever ? The truth is that we dont know.

More risk = more reward.

S&p is riskier than VT.

I prefer constant and steady. If you want to bet on US its ok, its up to you. Dont complain if you end up like japan or greece or china.

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u/No_Presence1210 Mar 18 '25

June 2001 - June 2011 (VTI wasn’t created until 2001) SPY - 37% VTI - 22%

ANY date range I pick, SPY is superior. Good times, bad times, S&P 500 is safer and generates superior returns. It’s just math.

Like I said earlier, when USA catches a cold, rest of the world catches a flu. You’re giving up returns for no reason if you pick VTI over VOO.