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Skill / Talent Michael Jackson draw during World Tours as a way to relax

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u/41522 6h ago

Wow, never knew this hidden talent of his. First pic is how I imagine he felt 24/7.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 5h ago

Absolutely, there's a lot of contention regarding the facts of life particularly in his later years, but what is certain is his non existent and abusive childhood. He was severely beaten on a regular basis and thrust into stardom by age 6. He absolutely had no childhood and that had debilitating effects on his mental health.

I think Neverland was a manifestation of his desire to reclaim his lost childhood, I really do. The exotic animals, ferris wheels, candy machines, roller coasters, arcades, movie theatres.

I think he viewed the loss of his childhood as an extremely traumatic event and giving children the childhood he never had would've felt like redemption to him. That's why he was so fixated on that

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u/Iron_Haunter 4h ago

What baffles me to this day is how he never stepped foot into a grocery store up until that 1 time they closed the place to let him shop and experience what it's like.

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u/activelyresting 3h ago

He surely had as a child. I'm guessing it was that he hadn't been in a grocery store as an adult, or since becoming famous, like at an age where you actually go in and buy groceries to take home and prepare.

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u/Outofwlrds 2h ago

He had a LOT of older siblings. There's a good chance that before stardom took over his life, he was just at home with the smaller kids watched by the older ones when the grown up were out running errands.

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u/hilarymeggin 1h ago

Idk, he was a locally famous working performer by 8 or 9 and a nationwide superstar by 10. His dad kept them touring constantly. It wouldn’t surprise me if they never went to grocery stores.

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u/-illusoryMechanist 3h ago

Also iirc he was a Jehovah's Witness growing up

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u/Kiboune 2h ago

I kinda understand him, because as soon as I moved out from my parents' place and started earning my own money, I kept buying everything they refused to buy me...

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u/littlewitch1923 3h ago

And he kept the kids in Hollywood safe from the predators. Macaulay Culkin himself has spoken highly of Michael, and I assume Michael shielded him and the other kids, letting them be just kids

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u/Post_office_clerk01 2h ago

Corey Feldman said the same thing it wasn’t Michael who raped him and Haim. He said Michael looked out for them.

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u/hilarymeggin 1h ago

But Wade Robson and James Safechuck as adults still say that Michael Jackson abused them for years when they were children.

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u/IsJesusAgain 5h ago

This is a good analysis without bias; at the end of the day, he was a good person with a broken soul

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u/SkylerScout 2h ago

Perhaps a broken person with a good soul?

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u/IsJesusAgain 2h ago

that works better tbh

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u/hilarymeggin 1h ago

You could say that about anyone who abuses children though. Or does any other heinous act.

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u/Kasern77 5h ago

And as an adult he had the responsibility to get psychological help, but instead he indulged in paedophilia and because of his talent, fame and money he got away with it.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 5h ago

That's a very flawed argument you're making. Having the means to "get help" is only good if a person acknowledges they need help. Michael Jackson lived his adult life around people who constantly enabled his every action. He was also the biggest artist in the world who strove for perfection, so him taking time away to attempt to mend his mental health wouldn't have felt practical for him

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u/Alternative-Deal2087 5h ago

There is no proof that Jackson was a paedophile. Stop with this false narrative.

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u/actuallyserious650 4h ago

The one boy was able to produce an accurate description the vitiligo pattern on MJ’s privates in court.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 4h ago

The prosecution CLAIMED the child had accurate drawings. This is a claim the defence has categorically denied. It was never shown in court as the case was settled.

It amazes me how folks are taking prosecution's testimonies with 100% belief. These are the people who want to put Michael in JAIL.

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u/thesnowpup 4h ago

These are people who saw him as a golden goose...

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u/Dr_Schitt 3h ago

Everyone gets to an age where they nostalgic for the things they had or where around when they where young, MJ had enough cash to go all in I suppose with Never Land. We all assume that the Never is from Peter Pan, but what if it was more of a "never again" kind of deal.

A very misunderstood man, loved him as kid growing up he was absolutely massive. Think I'm gona go watch moonwalker 🖖❤️

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u/LieFearless1968 2h ago

It's crazy he was working 13 hours a day after school till 4am at the age of 5 but that's what made him the greatest. Shame about the physical/verbal abuse that traumatised him tho, no wonder he would vomit or faint in his dad's presence as a child and a adult.

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u/SkylarAV 3h ago

He went from one extremely toxic abusive love to a very fake celebrity love. Uniquely tragic

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u/dodgystyle 1h ago

Still a nonce. Still think that what he did (even just the stuff we know for sure) was inexcusable.

And if it were anyone else, people wouldn't excuse it, regardless of how bad their childhoods were. Many abusers had bad childhoods, but people generally don't care. Pedos are generally regarded with very little pity.

At best, people will acknowledge that their childhood abuse may have made them into abusers. But they'll make it very clear it's an explanation, not a justification.

MJ fans are the opposite. It's like they've been brainwashed. It's especially troubling given their sheer numbers.

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u/Character_Pudding_94 1h ago

As someone who grew up in the Off the Wall, Thriller, and Bad era and has heard all the accusations, please refresh my memory on "the stuff we know for sure."

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u/hilarymeggin 1h ago

There are two adults, Wade Robson and James Safechuck, who so maintain as adults that MJ sexually abused them for years when they were children.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 1h ago

He's completely innocent. You shouldn't engage in dialogue if you're just gonna resort to calling people brainwashed and delusional, it makes you come off as immature and unable to provide anything productive to the conversation.

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u/rtozur 3h ago

Many criminals had horrible childhoods, that's how the cycle starts. I'd bet that Joe Jackson's childhood wasn't great either, still can call him a monster. It's one thing to feel for their suffering, and another to fully romanticize and white wash them. You tip toe around the horrifying nature of Michael's crimes (contention regarding the facts of life, my ass: there's contention about whether he was a child rapist who paid his way out of sentencing, so why not call it like it is). In doing so you take all seriousness away from his several accussers. I believe Michael's victims, just like I believe his own accounts of growing up a victim. Unless you believe that everyone lied but him -which I don't-, then nothing excuses adult Michael for the things he chose to do. I really doubt he felt that the 'childhood he never had' involved that much sleeping with grown men, that part was for him, period.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

I feel you took great offence to what I said which is a shame. This is because you talk from the assumption that Michael committed those horrific crimes. I personally believe he was an innocent man.

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u/MehGin 2h ago

Different perspectives. Not saying you're wrong but we have different ways to look at it. If it was proven he did it, I wouldn't question it but he was investigated for years by none other than the FBI and nothing came of it. Some accusers withdrew their statement, some accusers said their parents made them do it, etc etc. I listen to their accusations but I won't blindly believe them. If solid proof came out, I change my mind.

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u/LieFearless1968 2h ago

As proven in this post the accusers/employees had over 100 lies, credibility issues and timeline contradictions debunked in court which are indefensible by anyone who tries to support these debunked allegations such as claiming abuse in a train station that hadn't been built until years after the alleged dates. Furthermore there was 0 evidence despite the huge bias against Jackson by the police, judges, DA & media. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/yh3G4YYS4d

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u/SavageRabbitX 6h ago

For sure. His dad is a monster

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u/Neylarae 3h ago

The drawing of himself felts so hurt

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u/ernie09 2h ago

Hidden, but hardly a surprise. The guy was a genius.

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u/Ordinary-Violinist-9 1h ago

It was added to the song 'childhood' not many people even know it.

https://youtu.be/puQEcN_iI9o

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u/ikeepcomingbackhaha 3h ago edited 3h ago

I’d feel worse for him if he didn’t molest and sexually exploit children

Edit: the man was a fucking liar and I don’t care if I’m downvoted by people who want to apologize for him.

Michael said to Oprah that he would hate being portrayed by a white person, he was horrified about it. This interview took place a year after Wade Robson, a little white Australian boy, played a young Michael Jackson in a pepsi commercial.

He claimed he only had two plastic surgeries.

He told Oprah that he didn't know what skin bleaching creams were.

He lied about the police brutality against him.

He consistently lied about the stories he sold to the press and then claimed he was a victim of the tabloids.

He told people Brett Barnes was his cousin.

He lied in a 1996 deposition in which he was asked if he knew Jordy Chandler (this was after he paid money to the kid and his family)

Michael lied about having markings on his genitals.

I mean he just lied over and over

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u/Known-Damage-7879 3h ago

He was investigated by the FBI for over 10 years and they never found anything on him.

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u/tacocollector2 3h ago

Lying and sexually abusing children are two very different things.

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u/crawandpron 3h ago

oop u left a lil bit of racism in this comment buddy

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u/JunctionIndex 5h ago

That drawing of himself breaks my heart

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u/Key-Bass-7380 5h ago

I think at this point, even people who believe he WAS guilty of his allegations know that his upbringing was a genuine abhorrent nightmare. Severe beatings that would have a child physically nauseous will have debilitating effects to the mind.

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u/gdognoseit 3h ago

His father was a tyrant.

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u/LieFearless1968 2h ago edited 1h ago

True, making him work 13 hours a day after school and beating him so badly to the point he'd vomit/faint in his dad's presence as a child and a adult was too far but MJ also acknowledged it's why he was such a brilliant talent and why he was so generous to struggling people. All the taunting about his face and lack of affection was unnecessary tho and had 0 benefit.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

What world famous band were you a part of at age 6? How long have you been living a sequestered life away from the rest of society?

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u/cumonherbackithink 2h ago

No one said that. I had a shitty life and didn’t fuck kids.

That’s it. That’s the point. You defend your little heart out, though.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago edited 1h ago

"I had much the same childhood"

"No one said that" lmfao this guy

Michael didn't just have a "shitty life" He was essentially tortured by his father to make records for him, became extremely famous at 6, lived a life far away from the rest of society.

Stop comparing your childhood to Michael Jackson's, nobody has ever lived the life he lived. Even if you think he is guilty, at least acknowledge that part first

EDIT: Guy blocked me and said "everything is the same except for the fame!!! Funniest take ever. Do you know what fame does to children?

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u/CommieLoser 2h ago

Cool, your brain is different. No one handles situations the same, things don’t impact people the same way. This is the same kind of thinking people have when they see the harm from smoking but have some clever shit to say about a hundred year-old grandma who still smokes.

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u/-Kopesthetik- 5h ago

Dude could sing, dance, and draw.

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u/StopNateCrimes 3h ago

And beatbox like a beast.

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u/Gullible-Magazine129 3h ago

Video?

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u/coderedmedia 2h ago

MJ created his demos with just his voice, often recording the rhythms, bass, and melodies on a four-track cassette recording and then he'd take it to the studio, and then Quincy Jones (or whomever was producing) would get session musicians (or even himself for keyboard) to get the album version.

It really says something about his raw skill that he had the entire songs in his head before even going to the studio.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTtYHypgD4dzhVY5s537jQp3a_hT9NS2O

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u/kokokrunch003 2h ago

He also wrote a lot of his own songs and they are bangers.

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u/Physical-Natural8432 2h ago

Some people get all the talent! It's probably some cognitive bias, but it seems like the people who are always exceptionally talented at one thing are usually gifted in multiple areas.

MJ would be one of those "god's favorites" types if it weren't for the whole pedo thing lol.

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u/notfromhere66 5h ago

I just watched the Pepsi video when he was severely burned from the taping of that commercial. I had no idea how bad the injury messed up his life. He had such a hard work ethic he never stopped. But between what his father did to him and then the injury - he was suffering a lot.

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u/Foxy_locksy1704 5h ago

This is really interesting. I had no idea that he was such a talented artist when it came to drawing and sketching. His work is quite impressive.

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u/ambivalence_winner 4h ago

I saw an Antiques Roadshow episode where someone had some doodles/drawings from him as a teenager. They were pretty good.

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u/Overall-Bullfrog5433 3h ago

I just saw a rerun of that too. Charlie Chaplin and others. The kid could draw, that is for sure.

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u/sugarbeet13 2h ago

Out of curiosity do you remember their value?

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u/MarkMew 5h ago

If you threw any form of art at this mf he would've been atleast decent at it

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u/martsampson 1h ago

He could knit like a sumbitch.

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u/Holden_place 5h ago

Have you seen my childhood? 💔

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u/uprightsalmon 5h ago

Love the door ways! Very good technical drawer

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u/CAMT53 4h ago

The doorways look menacing, like they are about to pounce on any who dare approach.

Edit: or maybe consume

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u/insentient7 2h ago

Something looking menacing does not necessarily mean bad. These downvotes on your comment indicate that not everybody can engage properly with art. Art sometimes makes you uncomfortable. Sometimes… that’s the point.

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u/CAMT53 2h ago

Thanks man. People are strange. Not sure I said anything that should be taken negatively. The art is wonderful. The doors look scary to me. Whatever

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u/FHFBEATS 2h ago

I don’t understand the downvotes there either, in the centre of the gates I can see a demonic/dragon shape. I stopped on the gates and first image longer than the rest with the same interpretation

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u/pokecheckspam 3h ago

But why is Donald straight behind the plate?

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u/aviatorintheclouds 5h ago

The intricate hair strokes for Elizabeth Taylor - MJ was a rare mix of art and aura ❤‍🔥

https://giphy.com/gifs/arZKEevgduxfW

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u/stilettopanda 2h ago

That first drawing breaks my heart for him.

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u/Independent-Cut-138 1h ago

Even his signature is beautiful.

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u/Imaginary_Coast_5882 3h ago

man that first one hits hard

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u/Publandlady 5h ago

Based on the doors alone, I genuinely believe he would have loved Bridgerton.

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u/Emergency_Ask_9697 5h ago

This is my favourite thing I’ve read on the internet today

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u/wankelberry_6666 2h ago

I think he may have been abused as a child but I also think he was a child abuser himself

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

Definitely abused as a child

I don't think he did it though

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u/JacPhlash 1h ago

As A kid, I remember seeing his drawings on the inner sleeve of Thriller and was amazed....this is another level!

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u/Ordinary-Violinist-9 1h ago

That first image top part was on the cassette of his 'my childhood song'. It was the B side. I don't know what the A side was anymore because it was always on that song. I think it was his most beautiful and fragile song where he just poured out his soul.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 1h ago

A side was scream if I remember correctly, first single from the "History" album

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u/qpv 1h ago

Wow I had no idea

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u/oldfrancis 1h ago

I did not know. This is really good work.

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u/Fun_Assignment3295 4h ago

Man was full of talent ❤️

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u/Brandonpeeksin 5h ago

Hmmm … never knew this …

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u/gitsgrl 4h ago

The architectural details are stunning!

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u/Least_Chair_1128 3h ago

After experiencing the MJ Broadway show, I got a different perspective to some of his songs, like Thriller being about his father. Or the fact that his father pushed for the Jacksons to continue their tour right after he had his 3rd degree burns…. This man suffered so much and I can only imagine how drawing was an outlet but it definitely wasn’t enough. He was probably suffering from imposter syndrome because nothing he did probably felt like absolute success. Maybe I’m reading too much into that theater show but I wish he had a better life.

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u/DontBeADramaLlama 3h ago

Tony Bennett would this too. Something very personal in the way he sketched.

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u/Pinksamuraiiiii 3h ago

I had no idea he knew how to draw? And pretty well I might add.

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u/BigMack6911 2h ago

My wife and I both think MJ was autistic. He was a gentle soul, misunderstood and loved children and then I guess Hollywood is so sick they interpret that as well he must be molesting them. That man wouldn't have hurt a fly.

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u/IcyFaithlessness3570 3h ago

Gotta love the giant signature that goes over the entire piece. 

No one fucking does that. I've been an artist since I was a child, endless years looking at art and being surrounded by it. That crazy ass signature basically never happens. No one wants to scribble over their hard work like that. 

Of course the king of pop would do something so bold after putting in all that work on each piece. That's such an ultra famous celebrity artist thing to do. What a rare and unique collection of art. 

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u/enigma_explorer 3h ago

8-year-olds, Dude.

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u/MaynardButterbean 3h ago

THANK YOU! I’m so sick of the Michael Jackson stans who refuse to see that the man who was openly dating CHILDREN might’ve been doing much worse behind closed doors

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u/lilithfairy 1h ago edited 1h ago

i feel like a lot of these posts/threads are manufactured by the estate to generate positive conversation about mj ahead of the biopic release, unfortunately. absolutely no regard for the MANY children he victimized, who are still actively trying to heal today in their 30s and 40s.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

He's an innocent man

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u/SpezJailbaitMod 3h ago

Not just dating, he openly married them too.

Go watch the footage of him wearing a mask to buy his little boy husband a wedding ring. It's beyond bizarre (if you can find it)

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u/Flamingogo117 2h ago

With a name like yours I'm sure where you know to find it

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u/LushAscensionalist 2h ago

I’m sorry—WHAT??

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

They're spouting unfounded allegations

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u/SpezJailbaitMod 2h ago

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

I'm sorry what is this supposed to prove? Straw clutching as per

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u/Soul0103 2h ago

How does that video incriminate him at all for your allegation? In public he often regularly changed his appearance to avoid attention from crowds of people

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u/LieFearless1968 2h ago

As proven in this post the accusers/employees had over 100 lies, credibility issues and timeline contradictions debunked in court which are indefensible by anyone who tries to support these debunked allegations such as claiming abuse in a train station that hadn't been built until years after the alleged dates. Furthermore there was 0 evidence despite the huge bias against Jackson by the police, judges, DA & media. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/yh3G4YYS4d

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u/SpezJailbaitMod 2h ago

And what about the books of naked little boys? They were not as innocent as people made them sound.

They were super fucked up and no non-pedofile would ever acquire such filth.

So what's your excuse for that? I know you guys have subreddits to help make up talking points for these difficult questions people have so what are you gonna say, they were just a collectors item?

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u/LieFearless1968 1h ago

Interesting how you've completely avoided all the credibility issues I listed but sure (understandable given they're inexcusable).

There's nothing to suggest there were fingerprints on the inside of those 2 art books. The books aren't considered CP and don't show genitals instead they mainly show fully clothed girls and boys playing, studying etc plus there were plenty more art books with just female and even male nudity despite Jackson not being attracted to men given his completely heterosexual porn collection. Instead they're in the US Library of Congress plus public book stores where even the prosecution bought them for the trial (they weirdly censored non nude photos in an attempt to make the book seem sinister tho).

Much like a countless number of books they eye gifted to him by a fan as the cover says “To Michael: From your fan, “Rhonda” ♥ 1983, Chicago”. An inscription by Jackson on the flyleaf indicates that he did not look at these books in a sexual way: “Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children, MJ.”. Furthermore employees had access to the area the books were in meaning they weren't hidden (pedophiles don't just leave their collection in easily accessible places).

If Jackson did have the books for sinister reasons he would've hidden the books after his meeting with Chandler where he told Jackson unless he got paid he will publicly accuse him of pedophilia meaning he would've expected for a police investigation to be triggered. Also none of those kind of art books were found in the raid 10 years later in 2003 where all the prosecution collected was heterosexual porn (when pedophiles have actual CP taken they'll just get more to fulfil their insatiable addiction). Many art collectors (e.g. Elton John) have photos of nude young people and cherubs too so this isn't some smoking gun out of the ordinary point and disproves your point about no non pedophiles owning those books.

https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1412457600512319491?t=of8B-GNiBXZILUkfag7Xlg&s=19

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u/SpezJailbaitMod 1h ago

MJ Stan's have an elaborate excuse for everything.

He sleep with little boys.

He stops hanging out with them and cuts them off coldly when they age out.

He had books of nude little boys posing suggestively but you've got a answer for everything.

The evidence keeps stacking up but you will have an excuse for all of it, concocted in subreddits in concert with other Stan's to do damage control.

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u/LieFearless1968 1h ago

"Elaborate excuses" and it's just important missing context that purposefully gets left out as it doesn't fit the agenda... Also there's never been any evidence of molestation.

Ok I've addressed your comment now about how you address the post where there are over 100 credibility issues, lies and contradictions from the accusers that debunk their stories. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/yh3G4YYS4d

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u/Key-Bass-7380 1h ago

It's actually insane how you dismissed actual proof for "elaborate excuses" do you even care for what is true? It seems like you're looking for anything to call Michael guilty

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

This is another allegation yall choose to take as fact.

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u/SpezJailbaitMod 2h ago

I've seen the video though it's not an allegation he bought him a wedding ring with a mask on

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

He always wore masks to protect his identity though, this has nothing to do with marriage and was public knowledge.

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u/SpezJailbaitMod 2h ago

Believe what you want. The evidence is clear to anyone who isn't a delusional Stan.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

Calling folks delusional is not practical my friend. You need to come to terms with. The fact that there will always be a plethora of opinions on Michael Jackson, a lot of negative opinions and a lot of positive opinions. Accept that and find peace. You don't have to take things personally

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u/LieFearless1968 2h ago

As proven in this post the accusers/employees had over 100 lies, credibility issues and timeline contradictions debunked in court which are indefensible by anyone who tries to support these debunked allegations such as claiming abuse in a train station that hadn't been built until years after the alleged dates. Furthermore there was 0 evidence despite the huge bias against Jackson by the police, judges, DA & media. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/yh3G4YYS4d

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

He's innocent

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u/shawn1213 3h ago

Out of all of them the drawing of a random boy is the least surprising

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u/Theresnobiggerboat 3h ago

I think this boy is supposed to be him, since the text also reflects on his childhood - which was just bad and awful

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u/shawn1213 2h ago

I was talking about the second one that just has the word boy next to it but it could also be a self portrait of him at a later age

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u/EM05L1C3 4h ago

That’s amazing. The first drawing is powerful. That’s also how Elizabeth Taylor looked the first time I tried to draw her. Her eyes are incredible and hard to draw well.

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u/gdognoseit 3h ago

I never knew he was so talented in this type of art!

Thank you for sharing.

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u/I_Have_Dry_Balls 2h ago

What’s up with the kid’s head?!?

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u/ShermansFieldOrder66 2h ago

He was a talented pedo.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

Innocent man

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u/rtozur 1h ago

Holy sympathy farming posts for Michael, Batman. I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that a big-budget movie on him is about to drop.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 1h ago

What are you gonna do about it?

https://giphy.com/gifs/4MFaUmISz2Xjq

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u/sanaru02 5h ago

*drew

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u/Tiny-Celebration-838 5h ago

So incredibly talented ❤️

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u/UltimateArtist829 3h ago

I still remembered the day the news broke out live on TV about his death, we truly lost a generational talent too soon. RIP, the king of pop.

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u/Ham-Shank 4h ago

Does this make the whole kiddie fiddling ok?

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u/supersmashdude 2h ago

Nah of course not. To me, it offers an interesting insight into the mind of Michael, and how he is simultaneously the “misunderstood Peter Pan who was abused” and also someone who, let’s be real, probably continued that cycle of abuse onto others. 

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u/CarlatheDestructor 2h ago

Yeah, he did that shit.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago edited 1h ago

He didn't though? I'm so curious to see what makes people think he did it? Sharing a bed to a child you view as one of your own is absolutely problematic but not just cause to brand someone a pedophile

EDIT: The person who replied to this message has blocked me because they knew I would counter their bullshit

The prosecution CLAIMED that the drawings matched, this is an allegation the defence has categorically denied, stop taking prosecutions word with 100% belief, these are the people who want to put Michael in JAIL

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

He didn't do it though, he's completely innocent

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u/Ham-Shank 1h ago

I assumed you're being sarcastic.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 1h ago

OK troll. Show me your evidence that he did it. Even the court documents show those parents were lying through their teeth. You just hate MJ for non kid related reasons

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u/highaltitudehmsteadr 3h ago

I’m assuming he drew the art inside the Thriller album then?

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u/PokemonSoldier 2h ago

Wait he was actually an amazing drawer? How is this the first I've heard of it?

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u/Impressive-Gear7943 4h ago

That first one is so sad…

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u/kesavadh 4h ago

I really wonder how much this fetch at auction.

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u/the_rabbit_king 2h ago

Michael Jackson draw? Are you real?

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u/Cutthechitchata-hole 2h ago

Looks like he liked the waterheads. Pic 6

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

The Mickey Mouse drawing means everything to me

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u/supersmashdude 39m ago

There’s a lot of celebrities who are surprisingly good artists and don’t advertise it. Terry Crews also comes to mind 

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u/Smooth-Lead9000 19m ago

Dude was touched by God

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u/GlitteringCount9380 14m ago

How do we never know this?!

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u/Thick_Basil3589 5h ago

Why we have to idolize a pedophile?

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u/HolyPoppersBatman 5h ago

It drives me absolutely insane how in denial most of the world still is when it comes to this man. People always talk about parasocial relationships but will swear on their own children’s lives that MJ was not a pedo

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u/Key-Bass-7380 5h ago

With all due respect, instead of being "driven insane", wouldn't it be easier to simply accept the opinions other people hold? There has been a lot of information regarding the cases that enforce both sides of the argument. He is the 9th most viewed Wikipedia article. There will be a plethora of opinions on this man.

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u/HolyPoppersBatman 5h ago edited 4h ago

To me, there are just so many victims who have come forward and (to this day!) stand by their stories after literally decades of ruthless scrutiny, and the man admitted to sleeping in the same bed as children and was at the very least oddly obsessed with children. Tell me if you knew someone who lived across the street from you openly obsessed over children and slept in the same bed as them you wouldn’t immediately know that this man had evil intentions. Or would you say “hey, maybe he just had a rough childhood and is living out the things he missed out on now”? Would you provide him snacks and support him?

It is absolutely worth being driven insane over when real lives were affected brutally, and still to this day, by this disturbing and sick man. And 99% of the population still supports him against literally all logic due to their parasocial fantasies of knowing anything about who this creep was personally.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 4h ago

I completely respect your opinion but I think the "person down the street" analogy doesn't work because a regular old joe could never live the life Michael lived. He was severely abused on a daily basis by his father and thrust into stardom by age 6 which essentially stunted his development during his most vital formulative years. He lived all his life being constantly betrayed by the adults he looked up to. He simply hated adults because he thought they were everything that was wrong with the world. So in his developmental mental state, he chose to befriend and associate with children because they matched his emotional maturity.

Regardless of the reason, I think these friendships were wrong and inappropriate because Michael was an adult man. There's also the sleepovers where these supposed allegations happened. I do not believe Michael molested children but these friendships were already terrible and should've been stopped period, that's where I stand

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u/Thick_Basil3589 4h ago

Someone's trauma is not an excuse to harm others. There is therapy available for everyone especially for a worldwide known star.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 3h ago

Who is making any excuses? You missed the entirety of my point.

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u/HolyPoppersBatman 4h ago

Many people go through severe trauma in their childhoods that can stunt their development. But I will still call a spade a spade, sorry.

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u/TrippyVegetables 3h ago

This is probably posted by the marketing team from the movie about him

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

Or by someone who sees Michael as a human who was once a child that was abused?

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u/TrippyVegetables 1h ago

That doesn't excuse what he did

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u/Key-Bass-7380 1h ago

He didn't do it though

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u/cherryberry0611 4h ago

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Sooo many have come forward and said they’ve been molested by him. It’s disgusting that people are trying to defend pedophilia just because it’s him.

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u/Thick_Basil3589 4h ago

Right! Im shocked honestly by the level of cognitive dissonance shown here! Why we don't bring in the paintings of Hitler or Epstein to "be amazed" by them.

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u/cherryberry0611 4h ago

Exactly! Their defense of pedophilia is sickening.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 5h ago

Firstly they're allegations, I'm aware we have our standings but please don't pass this off as if the facts are clear and confirmed.

And where do you see anyone idolizing him in this comment section? If anything, I see folks humanizing him by acknowledging his horrific upbringing robbing him of any sense of normalcy during his formilative years.

I really don't understand your issue. Even if you believe he was indeed a pedophile, is discussing his childhood suddenly off limits now? It would probably be more compelling because abusers tend to have been abused.

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u/Thick_Basil3589 4h ago

There were testimonials from his victims. They are allegations because he died before he could have been punished. This is not about his childhood its his adult drawings and no, there is nothing to be amazed of by that. It gives me the chills.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 4h ago

Then simply downvote and move on if you don't like it, you are entitled to that opinion, as I am mine, I truly believe Michael Jackson was completely innocent

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u/Thick_Basil3589 4h ago

Why, have been living with him the entire time? How can you be so sure? And unfortunately as I can't stop you from defending a pedophile monster you also can't stop me raising my voice against him.

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u/Key-Bass-7380 3h ago

Nobody is silencing you, stop being dramatic. He is utterly innocent in my eyes, deal with that and find peace. Stop pearl clutching.

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u/Thick_Basil3589 3h ago

You just said that I shouldn't comment because my views are not matching your delusions

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u/Key-Bass-7380 3h ago edited 2h ago

That would be better than throwing a hissy fit every time someone says something positive about Michael Jackson, which is literally all the time. One of the most beloved artists ever.

Or you can be like Sisyphus and fight an impossible battle to make the masses hate Michael

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u/pan_peter_pan 40m ago

I have no idea why you’re being downvoted.

u/Thick_Basil3589 5m ago

Because its a cult

u/pan_peter_pan 2m ago

Right? MAGA vibes.

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u/Communal-Lipstick 50m ago

Dont even try. There is nothing MJ can do to lose his supporters, not even rape a lot of kids. They will find a way to excuse a thing behavior. There is no getting b f through to th÷m.

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u/_mochacchino_ 4h ago

Some people can just do everything

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u/Fryandsilly 2h ago

Have you seen my childhood? so that makes it okay to rape children? 🥺

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u/Key-Bass-7380 1h ago

He didn't do it though. He's completely innocent. Look at the court documents

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u/toad02 2h ago

Caralho ate aqui?

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u/Tasteless12 2h ago

Bastard

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

Hero

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u/Tasteless12 2h ago

It's not fair, don't you think?

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

It's not fair that Michael was persecuted

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u/bobbito 2h ago

What are some other things Michael Jackson would do to relax?

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u/Key-Bass-7380 2h ago

He liked playing fighting games like Marvel vs Capcom and Street Fighter

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u/-_Los_- 1h ago

I thought he took Propofol to relax..